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Ditto. For me that is the ultimate Motion Performance car.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Serbigblock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes you are right. I think 1973 but when you are talking about performance it was the Monster Camaro. Just look at it, that is one cool car and it still has a stock interior. </div></div>

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Serbigblock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes you are right. I think 1973 but when you are talking about performance it was the Monster Camaro. Just look at it, that is one cool car and it still has a stock interior. </div></div>

Joel Rosen did some ZL1/Canam engine Camaros in 1969. My guess is that these are hi dollar cars.

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69 Motion Converted ZLX Camaro


HISTORY An original Hugger Orange Z-28, converted in 1974 by Motion Performance to a Phase III Camaro “ZLX” drag car. This conversion at the time cost approximately $12,000.00, making it one of the “most expensive and extreme conversions done during that era” (quote from Joel Rosen). The “ZLX” conversion package included a dual-four barrel 427 cubic inch tunnel ram engine along with special ZLX open chamber aluminum heads, Liberty transmission, and several suspension modifications.

It is reputed to be one of only two ZLX Camaros ever built and the only one known to exist today. In addition, the car has only 735 original miles.

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My old 80 Motion Camaro had receipts for over 23K as I recall.

https://www.yenko.net/features/2001/September2001.htm

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My 1987 Motion Monte carlo has receipts for $31,000, I think the most expensive motion car ever done.

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Great discussion, thanks for rounding it out with some numbers. I can't afford a Motion car but it is good to know you can ask a question and the knowledge base is on this site. Lee

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i guess this is what makes markets...

I think a car ordered new with Motion modifications is worth a real premium over a catalog car (do-it-yourself) or one that received modifications by Motion at a later stage in life.

Is the car a survivor? newly restored? older/poor restoration
Is the exterior and paint radical or subtle?
Do you prefer sports cars or muscle cars?

I think its clear that the more radical drivetrain modified cars that joel built will carry higher values and documentation/history will clearly impact value.

BM has gained more recognition in the last several years due to Marty's book, articles in the NY Times, and repeated collaboration and representation at the MCACN. Despite a softer market, the last BM that sold to my knowledge was the survivor 68 camaro...the value was well deserved and impressive. Both buyer and seller should be happy.

Some of the cars mentioned in this thread may not be the best examples or indicative of value. As charlie mentioned, few cars have traded publically thru auction and those arent necessarily the best examples of their kind.

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Ok I have one last cent to add. I agree with all of the above stated however, I believe the factor of emotions also plays a major impact in the private trading. A quick story, a friend receives a call from his Marina that a gentlemen has approached them and he wants to purchase his boat but the thing is his boat is not for sale. So he does the right thing and he contacts the man to be polite. Well after a very short conversation my friend no longer had a boat to put in his slip. Now, a true and accurate market value for the boat. I do not think so. Seller and Buyer happy, YES! Seller very very happy.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Atuckman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i guess this is what makes markets...

I think a car ordered new with Motion modifications is worth a real premium over a catalog car (do-it-yourself) or one that received modifications by Motion at a later stage in life.

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That was what I was thinking as I was reading through this thread. The modifications done to &quot;used&quot; cars will not carry the same value as a car that was ordered new with the Motion work done.

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I can understand that. I have a customer who is a performance car collector. But unless it came off the assembly line at GM, he places no value on it.
He has actually said that Yenko, Motion, etc. mean nothing to him from a collector standpoint...lol
Doesn't mean he is right or wrong, just means that some things aren't going to be valuable to others.