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x Baldwin Motion 05-11-2010 02:57 AM

Re: Joel Rosen paperwork and NICB report look!!!!
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ssl78396</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: resto4u</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you were selling the car for rocky, why did rocky sell the car without your assistance?</div></div>
Rowen&amp;Martin's Laugh In
&quot;Very Interesting&quot; [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cry.gif[/img] </div></div>
...........but strange.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

Dr. Terwilliker, I presume?
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/e...ie-johnson.jpg

ANDREW MACTAVISH 05-11-2010 03:04 AM

Re: Joel Rosen paperwork and NICB report look!!!!
 
The Adventures of Rocky &amp; HoodWinkle!

ssl78396 05-11-2010 03:11 AM

Re: Joel Rosen paperwork and NICB report look!!!!
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: x Baldwin Motion</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ssl78396</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: resto4u</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you were selling the car for rocky, why did rocky sell the car without your assistance?</div></div>
Rowen&amp;Martin's Laugh In
&quot;Very Interesting&quot; [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cry.gif[/img] </div></div>
...........but strange.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

Dr. Terwilliker, I presume?
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/e...ie-johnson.jpg
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Niiiiiice... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]

Belair62 05-11-2010 03:50 AM

Re: Joel Rosen paperwork and NICB report look!!!!
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67nickeycamaro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">he went around me and purchased the car from Rocky (after he told rocky he didnt like me and didnt want to deal with me)</div></div>

I'm thinking he had a pretty good reason by the sound of your posts.

67 Nova Boy 05-11-2010 03:53 AM

Re: Joel Rosen paperwork and NICB report look!!!!
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For the 5k you also get the NCIB report. </div></div>

Ok...I'm A Nova dude and have no Ideal what an NCIB report is!!

Enlighten me Charlie please!! LOL

Dave
67 Nova Boy

x Baldwin Motion 05-11-2010 07:24 PM

Re: Joel Rosen paperwork and NICB report look!!!!
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67 Nova Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For the 5k you also get the NCIB report. </div></div>

Ok...I'm A Nova dude and have no Ideal what an NCIB report is!! </div></div>


It's complicated......



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njsteve 05-11-2010 11:01 PM

Re: Joel Rosen paperwork and NICB report look!!!!
 
NICB is the National Insurance Crime Bureau. They have microfiche shipping records from most but not all of the assembly plants going back to the early 1900's. There is no &quot;report&quot; per se, really it is a one page document that shows that a particular VIN was shipped to a particular dealer code on a specific date.

The main use for these records is for vehicle fraud - if someone makes up a new VIN tag and the police suspect something, they can contact NICB and they will search that VIN to see if it ever existed. For example if you &quot;find&quot; a previously unlocated 71 hemicuda convertible and sell it for a couple million dollars and then there is a lawsuit over whether it's real or not - the VIN can be searched and if the engine code is different in the NICB records, that will prove the car had a fake VIN recently made for it. For example: BS27R1B100000 (hemi) versus BS27N1B100000 (383).

The real use if for much more modern cars in chop shop/auto theft investigations. There is a numerical &quot;check digit&quot; in post 1980's car VINs that is created by some crazy algorithym that chop shoppers don't have, so if they try to make a new VIN tag for a $250,000 Mercedes they are shipping overseas, the officials will check the VIN against NICB records and if the numbers don't match, there is a problem.

The unintended value to collectors in the NICB records is that you can learn what dealership a car was originally shipped to, such as Yenko, Baldwin, etc.

Unfortunately, the records are not available to the general public. It would actually be a goldmine to NICB if they would only see the light. Almost like Pontiac Historical Services selling the microfiche Pontiac invoice copies. I think a great deal of people would pay $50, $100, etc., to know what dealer their car came from originally, especially if it was thought to be from a specialty dealership.



69 Post Sedan 05-11-2010 11:35 PM

Re: Joel Rosen paperwork and NICB report look!!!!
 
Thanks for the reply, that was very useful. But, how do some people get a NICB report and others don't?

FYI...I would easily pay $50-$100 to find out what dealer my car came from.

67 Nova Boy 05-12-2010 12:22 AM

Re: Joel Rosen paperwork and NICB report look!!!!
 
Thank you for the detailed info!! Now I understand what and why it is so sout after.

Dave
67 Nova Boy

67 Nova Boy 05-12-2010 12:23 AM

Re: Joel Rosen paperwork and NICB report look!!!!
 
LOL.....I watch this show all the time! Abby is soo cool!!

Dave
67 Nova Boy


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