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66 L78 ragtop 10-06-2009 07:00 PM

Re: found my vin on here says its a yenko help
 
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Is this your personal philosophy or do you have objective data and/or sound reasoning that would lead the readers of your post to draw your same conclusion?

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I saw it in a dream! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif

And we know of cars out there with YS#'s that are known to be uncoverted...

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Can you elaborate as to how you concluded that said YS numbered cars were unconverted?

Do you have an example of a one owner, survivor car with bullet proof documentation indicating a YS# and an engine other than a 427?

If not, how can you draw a verifiable and plausible conclusion that some YS numbered cars were unconverted?

If a converted car wan't an indication for a YS# assignmnet, then what was the indication for assigning a YS number to a car?

I'm not trying to bust your chops, just fishing for a non-speculative, non-circumstantial answer...I don't think there is one and therefore do not think that a YS numbered car can reasonably and justifiably be reduced to an unconverted car.

66 L78 ragtop 10-06-2009 07:08 PM

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Curious to hear everyone’s thoughts about this particular Camaro. We know the current owner is asking $400,000 for the car, and with it basically needing everything, projected restoration costs will exceed $100,000. Factoring in today’s economy, once restored, will the car be worth a half mil or more?

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The guy is obviously testing the waters. I'm very certain he is aware that his chances of selling the car for 400K are slim to none...but hoping for that one guy with more money than brains!!

al8apex 10-06-2009 07:11 PM

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Having bounced around this site for a couple of years, I completely appreciate what I have been able to learn about this hobby and some of the nuances associated with finding and identifying some of these great finds HOWEVER I have to say that posting on this board to ask questions about a "find" draws out the sharks a bit and people get in line to "steal" the car from whoever has it. In this instance, the term "memnber" is used several times to describe different people that got involved in the process and it appears as though at least one member misinformed another in order to steal the car from under the other one. I know the concept of a fair price has been discussed here in the past and I would certainly try to get the best deal but I think the term "no honor among thieves" is appropriate on this one. If I were fortunate enough to find a potential supercar find, I have to say that coming to this site and sharing any type of detail would probably not be my first move. I know there are good guys on this site and would selectively seek them out for assistance but I would not put anything out there regarding location or any specifics about a car as people come out of the woodwork with "good intentions" and then screw you out of the deal.

Just an observation. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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^ mine too

remembering back not so long ago with those/(these same?) sharks circling around a handshake deal on a 69 COPO, one of them even drove up to the house with a trailer in an attempt to "steal" the car ...

amazing what the lure of the $iren $ong will do ... but then I would have to guess that those $harks live that way every day ... sad, so sad

Chevy454 10-06-2009 07:13 PM

Re: found my vin on here says its a yenko help
 
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Originally posted by: 66 L78 ragtop
Is this your personal philosophy or do you have objective data and/or sound reasoning that would lead the readers of your post to draw your same conclusion?

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I saw it in a dream! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif

And we know of cars out there with YS#'s that are known to be uncoverted...

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Can you elaborate as to how you concluded that said YS numbered cars were unconverted?

Do you have an example of a one owner, survivor car with bullet proof documentation indicating a YS# and an engine other that a 427?

If not, how can you draw a verifiable and plausible conclusion that some YS numbered cars were unconverted?

If a converted car wan't an indication for a YS# assignmnet, then what was the indication for assigning a YS number to a car?

I'm not trying to bust your chops, just fishing for a non-speculative, non-circumstantial answer...I don't think there is one and therefore do not think that a YS numbered car can reasonably and justifiably be reduced to an unconverted car.

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Off the top of my head I can think of 2 Novas, one of which still has the original Yenko Sportscars, Inc. file (YS# 9769 I believe)...

sYc 10-06-2009 07:30 PM

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I think all dealerships, then and now, used such a system of assigning stock numbers to their inventory. My 2010 had such a number.

There is no doubt that not all cars receiving a YS # got converted.

firstgenaddict 10-06-2009 07:31 PM

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What did the Black and Red 67 Yenko sell for last year?

Schonyenko2 10-06-2009 07:32 PM

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All Yenko deuces had a YS#. None were converted. All were COPOs. None were 427s.

bilede 10-06-2009 08:13 PM

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I guess it all depends on your definition of conversion because I think of all the 70 copo nova's arriving at yenko unconverted and the conversion put on wheels, stripes, tach, etc. which made it a yenko deuce. The conversion in 70 made it a yenko deuce as opposed to Petes copo nova. On 69 camaro's there was the same sticker/emblem treatment as 70, no engine change. 67 and 68 camaro's and 69 nova's received 427 engine in the conversion to a yenko supercar with emblems, etc. my two cent opinion on definition..

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 10-06-2009 09:06 PM

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I guess it all depends on your definition of conversion because I think of all the 70 copo nova's arriving at yenko unconverted and the conversion put on wheels, stripes, tach, etc. which made it a yenko deuce. The conversion in 70 made it a yenko deuce as opposed to Petes copo nova. On 69 camaro's there was the same sticker/emblem treatment as 70, no engine change. 67 and 68 camaro's and 69 nova's received 427 engine in the conversion to a yenko supercar with emblems, etc. my two cent opinion on definition..

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Bill is nicely summarizing the previous perspectives, the YS# is simply a tracking device - and was/can be used to track different things in different years. I would not hang my hat on a YS# as anything other than a YS#!

Charley Lillard 10-06-2009 09:17 PM

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Curious to hear everyone’s thoughts about this particular Camaro. We know the current owner is asking $400,000 for the car, and with it basically needing everything, projected restoration costs will exceed $100,000. Factoring in today’s economy, once restored, will the car be worth a half mil or more?

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My understanding is the 400K price was supposed to be confidential and the offering of that price was rescinded within a hour of when it was priced. I didn't know at the time it was secret. It is supposedly not for sale at this time.


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