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Not much left of the pace car , from behind the rad cradle forward was torched off. 305 4bbl auto. drum brakes on the rear.
we may take it, the guy wants next to nothing for it. we saw it a few weeks ago but did not go over to the car until last weekend , we opened the door thought holy cow. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif |
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Spending the weekend with my family upstate, found out about this one today. Neat car!
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...4444Medium.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...4461Medium.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...4445Medium.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...4447Medium.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...4448Medium.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...4453Medium.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...4454Medium.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...4455Medium.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...4456Medium.jpg http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...4457Medium.jpg |
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WOW!!!! Is it for sale or another "gonna fix er up some day"
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I think that 65 Vette had the seats reupholstered in Mopar Mod Top seat material!
Check this out: http://www.mooresmopars.com/modmaterial.html |
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Nice '65! If it is for sale, please PM me!
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Dust on the back has 1974 wrote in it.
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It's not for sale currently, don't know about in the future.. The owner is a really nice guy, has no reason to let it go at this point. I didn't find out why he stopped driving it, but it's been off the road since about 79. I might get some engine shots tomorrow before I leave. Dig that hood stripe!
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Okay so the guy won't sell the car to you; do you think you could convince him to wash it and clean all that crap out from the interior and in the engine compartment? It is painful seeing cars treated like that; such a waste.
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Moderator(s), why was my post deleted about this car? Please help me understand.
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What were the stickers of on the windshield?
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The stickers on the windshield are your standard NY state reggie and inspection dated 1977, a great indicator of how long the car has been out of service. The black stuff in the interior is shells, no droppings that I could see, and no odor at all when I was checking out the data tags..
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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...idge/1005a.jpg
This picture is no help in answering the age old question..."Can you store more stuff on a straight axle vette with the hood opened or closed?" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif |
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open, the hood keeps the boxes from sliding down the front end
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Tuxedo Black '69...396 engine replaced with a 305 for more MPGs back in the 70s, then left to rot...
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At least their keeping the grass down. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif
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Yep, looks like the back half of a 66.
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not to worry, I am CERTAIN that "car" is on the road today, probably sold at auction as a low mile (wrecked when it was new, is that what low mile means?) matching numbers car ...
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[ QUOTE ] not to worry, I am CERTAIN that "car" is on the road today, probably sold at auction as a low mile (wrecked when it was new, is that what low mile means?) matching numbers car ... [/ QUOTE ] Undoubtedly. In a small rural junkyard in the middle of Kansas, there's the remains of a 67 Shelby. I'm sure the car's missing V.I.N. numbers are resting comfortably on a six cylinder fastback in somebody's garage. [/ QUOTE ] It has been going on for YEARS. I am sure most people would be surprised at how many rebodied, clipped, brought back for being totalled type cars are out there and undetectable. The insurance companies sanction it by selling totalled cars at auction rather then having them crushed. There are body shops that make a living exclusively from grafting two cars togather and reselling them. If you think they all have salvage titles you are wrong. I know in AZ. they used to take the AZ. title to N.M. and title it and the salvage disappeared. If the car was ever titled back in AZ. no one ever knew. And we thought that "don't ask don't tell" was just a recent military term. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] not to worry, I am CERTAIN that "car" is on the road today, probably sold at auction as a low mile (wrecked when it was new, is that what low mile means?) matching numbers car ... [/ QUOTE ] Undoubtedly. In a small rural junkyard in the middle of Kansas, there's the remains of a 67 Shelby. I'm sure the car's missing V.I.N. numbers are resting comfortably on a six cylinder fastback in somebody's garage. [/ QUOTE ] It has been going on for YEARS. I am sure most people would be surprised at how many rebodied, clipped, brought back for being totalled type cars are out there and undetectable. The insurance companies sanction it by selling totalled cars at auction rather then having them crushed. There are body shops that make a living exclusively from grafting two cars togather and reselling them. If you think they all have salvage titles you are wrong. I know in AZ. they used to take the AZ. title to N.M. and title it and the salvage disappeared. If the car was ever titled back in AZ. no one ever knew. And we thought that "don't ask don't tell" was just a recent military term. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif [/ QUOTE ] As for retagged cars couldnt you buy the shell of say a Mopar with the VIN on the Radiator support and go head hunting for the clown who cloned your car? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] not to worry, I am CERTAIN that "car" is on the road today, probably sold at auction as a low mile (wrecked when it was new, is that what low mile means?) matching numbers car ... [/ QUOTE ] Undoubtedly. In a small rural junkyard in the middle of Kansas, there's the remains of a 67 Shelby. I'm sure the car's missing V.I.N. numbers are resting comfortably on a six cylinder fastback in somebody's garage. [/ QUOTE ] It has been going on for YEARS. I am sure most people would be surprised at how many rebodied, clipped, brought back for being totalled type cars are out there and undetectable. The insurance companies sanction it by selling totalled cars at auction rather then having them crushed. There are body shops that make a living exclusively from grafting two cars togather and reselling them. If you think they all have salvage titles you are wrong. I know in AZ. they used to take the AZ. title to N.M. and title it and the salvage disappeared. If the car was ever titled back in AZ. no one ever knew. And we thought that "don't ask don't tell" was just a recent military term. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif [/ QUOTE ] As for retagged cars couldnt you buy the shell of say a Mopar with the VIN on the Radiator support and go head hunting for the clown who cloned your car? [/ QUOTE ] Well, I guess it would depend on the situation. Typically what happens when a car is rebodied LEGALLY there are two cars involved that the same person owns both of them. They switch parts/bodies/V.I.N.s however they determine to be end up with what they want. Usually this involves a desireable hipo car that is either heavily body damaged or heavily rusted. In these cases the better condition donor body survives with the identity of the higher value/desireable car and the junk body goes to the boneyard. If on the other hand you are asking if you could locate YOUR stolen car, then yes it is possible. The very reason that the "hidden numbers" are on a car is for this purpose. That assumes the thief/chop shop was not aware of the hidden numbers. Over the years the "hobby" has become aware of these numbers and when a LEGAL rebody as described above takes place, they are usually educated enough to switch the hidden numbers as well. Early on in the hobby many were not aware of this and rebodies happened without the hidden numbers making the transfer. This is why people are cautioned to check those numbers when looking a car over prior to purchase. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] not to worry, I am CERTAIN that "car" is on the road today, probably sold at auction as a low mile (wrecked when it was new, is that what low mile means?) matching numbers car ... [/ QUOTE ] Undoubtedly. In a small rural junkyard in the middle of Kansas, there's the remains of a 67 Shelby. I'm sure the car's missing V.I.N. numbers are resting comfortably on a six cylinder fastback in somebody's garage. [/ QUOTE ] It has been going on for YEARS. I am sure most people would be surprised at how many rebodied, clipped, brought back for being totalled type cars are out there and undetectable. The insurance companies sanction it by selling totalled cars at auction rather then having them crushed. There are body shops that make a living exclusively from grafting two cars togather and reselling them. If you think they all have salvage titles you are wrong. I know in AZ. they used to take the AZ. title to N.M. and title it and the salvage disappeared. If the car was ever titled back in AZ. no one ever knew. And we thought that "don't ask don't tell" was just a recent military term. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif [/ QUOTE ] Oh, I know. If you've been in the hobby for more than a week, you know that re-bodies are a problem. I've been saying for awhile that it's an even bigger problem than most people realize. |
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Heres a hypothetical: Theres a 71 Hornet SC in a junkyard missing the door tag and VIN. However, behind the powersteering on the firewall the VIN is stamped. If this car is purchased with title does the new owner have the right to reclaim their missing tags?
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Heres a hypothetical: Theres a 71 Hornet SC in a junkyard missing the door tag and VIN. However, behind the powersteering on the firewall the VIN is stamped. If this car is purchased with title does the new owner have the right to reclaim their missing tags? [/ QUOTE ] Sure, why not? Whoever took the tags in the first place comitted a federal offense. If you own the car and can track your tags down, you own them by default in my mind. If the fake car has been sold in the meantime, then the current owner would have grounds to go after whoever sold him the fake, but the tags are yours regardless. I'm no lawyer, but that's my take on it. But if even the body stampings are gone, well, that's it. Unless you can somehow dig up old paper with a VIN and establish some kind of ownership history, there's nothing you can do. I can think of 12 or 15 high end cars just off the top of my head in northeast Kansas that have been completely stripped of all numbers. If I looked through some of my old notebooks, I could probably double that number. That's just what I've seen with my own two eyes, forget about the stuff I've heard of second hand. In one year, I parted out and crushed the two Super Bees I mentioned above, along with a 69 Z/28 because every number had been stripped off the bodies. In all three cases, they were cars that had sat in backwoods salvage yards for 20 or more years. No paperwork, no hope of finding a previous owner, so what can you do? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif |
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... I can think of 12 or 15 high end cars just off the top of my head in northeast Kansas that have been completely stripped of all numbers. If I looked through some of my old notebooks, I could probably double that number. That's just what I've seen with my own two eyes, forget about the stuff I've heard of second hand. In one year, I parted out and crushed the two Super Bees I mentioned above, along with a 69 Z/28 because every number had been stripped off the bodies. In all three cases, they were cars that had sat in backwoods salvage yards for 20 or more years. No paperwork, no hope of finding a previous owner, so what can you do? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif [/ QUOTE ] you could always do this and create a car from the paperwork and the tags, oh wait that has been done before, a certain Rally Green RS Z28 rebody that was sold last year comes to mind: https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat...true#Post363676 http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=149621 Sure it is illegal, but apparently people are ok with it ... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif |
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I suupose you could do that if you're the one who took the numbers off the car. When you're the guy stuck with a VIN-less hull, it limits your options. I don't know about the rest of the country, but the junkyards around here are full of neat cars that have been totally stripped of numbers. Which is why I think that there are more "built" cars around than anyone realizes. And it isn't just Chevrolets.
As for building a car around a set of tags, I guess if the 'Vette guys know it's going on and are cool with it, that's their deal. Here's how I feel about it. In 2001, I bought several cars out of a field. Included in the deal was an extremely rough AAR Cuda. The car had been wrecked, stripped, and left to rot. There literally wasn't a salvagable square inch of metal left on the car, and any usable parts had long since been taken. I sat on the car for a couple of months, trying to think of a way to save it, but the only conclusion I could come up with was "re-body". So I pulled the tags, melted them down with a torch, and sent what was left to the crusher. Some cars should be allowed to die, but that's just my opinion. |
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paperwork and tags for the above green 69 rs z28:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...9FutQUO_fs.jpg http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...9335/view3.jpg from here: http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=149621 illegal and ever more "accepted" they SHOULD die as stated above, but when there are $$$$$$ involved it seems common sense takes a back seat |
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Here is a site with a lot of good links to rotting stuff.
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