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Final Numbers are in................471 RWHP and 502 ft lbs of Torque..........

Ken

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beater

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The car was just sitting in the garage until Larry at ASSC had time to get around to tuning it....Got the call last week and since the tune was so far off I had the car Flatbedded over to his shop..

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So.....Larry spent a week going thru the car and got everything dialed in quite nicely....

Got it back today........Check it out....

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Wow - impressive numbers Ken! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/shocked.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Final Numbers are in................471 RWHP and 502 ft lbs of Torque..........

Ken </div></div>

I wasn't too far off [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

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Well done BRUCE [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dan

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LOL, Dan!

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Very awesome Ken... Sorry I missed seeing you at MCACN this year..

Rich

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How was your breakfast at Dannys

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Breakfast was great as usual..........So.......I was able to take the Impala out today and really drive it for the first time with the supercharger on it......Idle and normal city driving are unchanged, But....Step on the pedal and it's a completely different car......It's exactly what I envisioned when I started with this upgrade........Computer control, fuel injection and Superchargers are the only way to go.......Sheesh....Technology is wonderful.......I'm Glad Charley taught me how to spend her Money,......


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Awesome!

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Update...........The refining process continues......(Does it ever end).........After installing the Supercharger and Hydro-Boost, everything got a lot better.......But.....Fitting everything together with parts in place at that time left a little room for fine tuning.........the car was perfectly fine, but a couple of little issues.......#1.....using the existing down flow radiator with the Supercharger caused a issue........to clear the new drive system, I had to run the upper hose up and over the system and the hose ended up slightly above the radiator tank leaving it with a large air pocket........it ran and cooled fine, but it wasn't a recommended way to do things........I decided to get a cross flow Radiator with both fittings on the passenger side of the car to correct that issue........After seeing the quality of the Auto Rad set-up for the Nomad, I decided to buy one from them........I made the right decision ..................Quality, Quality, and Quality........
Second Issue........After installing the Hydro Boost........I had a little minor issue of while turning, I would get a little intermittent loss of power assist.......I did some research and was told there was a slight amount of air in the system........I noticed that in the reservoir there was some turbulence from the return line in the tank with possible aeration..........I checked online and found that Concept One had a tank they specifically built for these applications that controlled the flow and softened the flow entering the tank to eliminate this problem......So.....
I took the car to Frame-Up Wheelworks and they went thru and installed everything as well as neatened up my mess of wires around the battery........after getting the car back all I can say is....getting everything close and working is O.K..........But......Putting the Bow on the Package and Fine tuning everything makes driving the car nothing but sheer enjoyment......Damm!!.......This Beater is Fun !!!

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With both the inlet and outlet on the same side is there some type of internal baffle that prevents the water from just flowing vertically to the other opening?

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Steve .......The new Radiator is a cross flow and yes there is an internal baffle to separate the half's and control the flow .............. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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So..........The refining process continues.......But.....We are getting very close........When I did the car originally, I didn't know how to deal with the LS &quot;Rappy&quot; exhaust sound.........after getting the exhaust on the Impala during the initial build.........I had to go thru 3 sets of Mufflers to get the sound to go away and to quiet it down..........Ended up putting Cadillac Mufflers on it (Choke ,Choke).......since then I've learned that LS engines don't like long exhaust pipes (these go all the way back to the rear Bumper)..........and a &quot;X&quot; pipe helps kill the &quot;Rappy&quot; sound also.......

So....After finishing Gary's 65 and getting the exhaust completed with DynoMax Super Turbo Mufflers, an &quot;X&quot; pipe and tail pipes that exit behind the rear tires........His car sounded perfect........So.....I decided with last Winters mods to the Impala I needed to free up the Exhaust system.........It's going to the Exhaust shop on Monday for this &quot;Correction&quot; ....LOL.....I also bought a set of Headers off eBay that are supposed to fit........We will see........

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And so it continues [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

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As in the old days -- The Beat Goes On!!

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Took the car to Dave's Mufflers in town and they installed everything........The Headers fit perfectly with out any modifications at all...(that was a surprise)........In and out in a day...........Here's a bunch of pic's

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Sound.........

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sweet!

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Sounds great!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds great! </div></div>

X1000 [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dan

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Not bad for a modern motor [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

wilma

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I am going to do a Steering conversion update in the near future........But.....This little issue popped up this week....We were at the Mundelein car show and when we left and turned out on Rt 45........the car started squeeling like crazy.......I thought a idler pulley froze up and the belt was eating itself.......that's what it sounded like, pulled over and opened the hood.......everything alright......Hummm!!!!......start driving again and the noise got quieter, but I could feel a grinding thru the steering wheel.......Hummm!!......25 miles from home.....what to do......I decided to keep driving and see if I could make it home.......Made it home and here are some pic's of what happened.....new parts on the way...........

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http://www.loctite.com/ [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]

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AND star lock washers are just fine -- but they need to engage the bolt head and in this case it appears they do not ... the lock portion extends further out from the surface of the bolt.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AND star lock washers are just fine -- but they need to engage the bolt head and in this case it appears they do not ... the lock portion extends further out from the surface of the bolt. </div></div>

Guilty as charged. How could the washers be wrong. They came with the kit. Lol

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AND star lock washers are just fine -- but they need to engage the bolt head and in this case it appears they do not ... the lock portion extends further out from the surface of the bolt. </div></div>

Guilty as charged. How could the washers be wrong. They came with the kit. Lol</div></div>

Now you know why there are destruct buttons on missiles ... TAZ [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

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OH -- forgot to ask ... can the rotor be saved? TAZ

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[quote=earntaz]OH -- forgot to ask ... can the rotor be saved? TAZ [/quot

I ordered new ones with new bearings and seals................I had to order a tap to clean up the threads in the spindle.....hope I can save it

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AND star lock washers are just fine -- but they need to engage the bolt head and in this case it appears they do not ... the lock portion extends further out from the surface of the bolt. </div></div>

THIS! Great advice for anyone reading the post.

Wayne

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Arrowsmith</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AND star lock washers are just fine -- but they need to engage the bolt head and in this case it appears they do not ... the lock portion extends further out from the surface of the bolt. </div></div>

THIS! Great advice for anyone reading the post.

Wayne</div></div>

Thanks Wayne -- life is a learning process ... hopefully we can see these issues when they arise ... TAZ

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AND star lock washers are just fine -- but they need to engage the bolt head and in this case it appears they do not ... the lock portion extends further out from the surface of the bolt. </div></div>

Guilty as charged. How could the washers be wrong. They came with the kit. Lol</div></div>

Now you know why there are destruct buttons on missiles ... TAZ [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img] </div></div>

Reminds me of something Alan Sheppard, the astronaut, said in an interview when asked what he was thinking in the seconds before rocketing into space: &quot;That every single part on the vehicle was provided by the lowest bidder.&quot;

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427TJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AND star lock washers are just fine -- but they need to engage the bolt head and in this case it appears they do not ... the lock portion extends further out from the surface of the bolt. </div></div>

Guilty as charged. How could the washers be wrong. They came with the kit. Lol</div></div>

Now you know why there are destruct buttons on missiles ... TAZ [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img] </div></div>

Reminds me of something Alan Sheppard, the astronaut, said in an interview when asked what he was thinking in the seconds before rocketing into space: &quot;That every single part on the vehicle was provided by the lowest bidder.&quot; </div></div>

Isn't that the damn truth -- I've flown way too many miles in aircraft &quot;made by the lowest bidder&quot; but am still able to remember and have survived.

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Interesting video pertaining to the topic.

https://www.facebook.com/26289954405...3747044636523/

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Very interesting. I know on aircraft there is wide use of nylock/interference type fasteners including safety wire. I wish I had a dollar for every inch of safety wiring I've done. TAZ

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Don't feel bad Ken. Same thing happened to me on the 59.................. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

Lots of Locktite!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: napa68</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't feel bad Ken. Same thing happened to me on the 59.................. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

Lots of Locktite! </div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: napa68</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't feel bad Ken. Same thing happened to me on the 59.................. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

Lots of Locktite! </div></div>

Yep -- blue stuff and red stuff ... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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The Story continues..........Just to go back in time.......the 66 Impala has a complete RideTech suspension front and rear (Coil-overs)......since completion the car has had a Ackermann issue.......driving straight it was a slot car.......turning was a different story.......Pull into the garage and the tires would leave black marks on the driveway, and sharp turns were pretty nasty.........so.....not being a suspension guy and the car driving normal when not turning.....I just accepted it as some nuance with the Ridetech suspension with slightly wider rims.........Keep in mind this car was finished 5 years ago...We drove the car on two Power Tours without any issues.......Then the Chevelle came into the picture and the Impala sat in the garage for two years
After driving the Chevelle during that time (no steering issues) and then getting back into driving the Impala.......I was determined to find out what was going on here.....At Barrett-Jackson last January I happened to stop at the RideTech display and talked to the people there and explained my concerns about the Ackermann issues..........To make a long story short, if this issue was going to get resolved I was going to have to do it myself........So, In talking with Mark Webster, he informed me that GM changed the 65-66 &quot;B&quot; body steering geometry to a new configuration in 67.........Hummmm !!!!
What changed and why???.............After a lot of research and asking stupid questions on a lot of web sites.......I found out that GM knew there were issues with the 65-66 models with wider rims such as Police cars and in Sept of 66 there was a Service Bulletin to address these issues.......This Bulletin basically gave the part numbers of all the new 67 design parts and the position and templates for the mounting holes for the repositioning of the 67 design Idler Arm assy........The Biggest difference is the mounting location of the Idler Arm .......In the 65-66 model years, the Idler arm was mounted thru a hole inside the frame rail.........67 and up it was mounted inside the frame rail and forward of the thru frame position.....



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It's pretty obvious by this picture the differences............Here's a picture of the difference in the spindle steering arms....



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Pictures of the supplied templates provided in the 1966 Service Bulletin.......



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So........What I did was make the required steering arm spacer with tapped holes......got it in position .....and welded it in......



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After installing the new Pitman Arm , centerlink, and Idler Arm.......It was apparent that there was something wrong as the centerlink went up on an angle and back towards the rear of the car........Hummmm!!!!..........After thinking about it and looking at what could be the problem.....I noticed that the 67 Pitman arm was about a 1/2&quot; lower than the 66.........The Template must have been made with the 66 arm...........I made the centerlink parallel to the frame and the front crossmember.........Drilled new holes for the Idler arm (which corresponded to the lower 67 arm...........Makes perfect sense now ) and bolted everything in........Installed new Tie Rod ends.........Now everything is new.......Adjusted the toe roughly and when I pulled out of the garage to go to the alignment shop..........I knew right away there was a major difference as there wasn't any tire squeeling or scrubbing...........after alignment.........It is now the complete package.....Ackermann issue solved.........drives and steer's perfectly...............

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[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] good deal Ken