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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=kwhizz]"Hey......He's got one of those L 52 engines in there"...........LOL
The only thing better is the B52 engine! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img] </div></div> I would have to tell you, in order to install the TF33 would require extensive modification. LOL Best bet if you want all the torque is to pull the plastic top motor out and bolt in a 572 -- and it won't need a blower/supercharger. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=kwhizz]"Hey......He's got one of those L 52 engines in there"...........LOL
The only thing better is the B52 engine! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img] </div></div> I would have to tell you, in order to install the TF33 would require extensive modification. LOL Best bet if you want all the torque is to pull the plastic top motor out and bolt in a 572 -- and it won't need a blower/supercharger. </div></div> The problem is...........I drive my cars on an average of 7000 miles a year........don't need 8 miles per gallon or the other "Old School" issues......Been there......This in more "Gooder".....LOL |
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Yep -- those BBC like to sip the motion lotion ... more gooder is OK ... TAZ
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Funny story about this picture.........while at a Touring Car event a while back.....we had stopped for lunch, and after getting out of the Impala a bunch of Corvette guy's pulled in.......one guy park's next to me and asked what kind of engine I had in the car........I opened the hood and he calls out to his Buddy's........."Hey......He's got one of those L 52 engines in there"...........LOL
Looks like a nice "Before" picture! http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...E4521A894D.jpg </div></div> [/quote] |
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Doesn't Charley have a B-52 engine in a 55 Chevy?
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That was a Rolls Royce Merlin from a P51, I believe.
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I knew that!
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I won't get home until tomorrow night.......But.....I was sent this picture of a small skid that was delivered to the house.........Things will start moving very soon....
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...85DD8B4D35.jpg Ken |
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Nice! Have a safe flight home...
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Be careful there Ken, you could out spend $$$ Benny... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] Keep having fun [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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I had a feeling you were going to go this route.....coffee in the mornings just got better [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Is it on yet? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]
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Spoiled Brat! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is it on yet? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] </div></div>
He had it on yesterday....just before the Cubs game.....as he could not miss that GAME! Dan |
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It's not on yet.........Had to watch the Cubs like Dan said.......Tonight I got a few things done....Had to pin the Crank Pulley to the crankshaft.......Now....In the Instructions (yes as I got older I now read them first)....LOL......It said to buy a GM tool to lock the flywheel in place to loosen the pulley bolt.....WTF.....It can't be that tight ......Right ?????.......So....I pull the starter out and put the Tool in place.......Get out the 1/2" breaker bar and go to break the Bolt loose.......LOL......Nothing......In the Instructions it said that a long pipe might be needed for additional leverage.......Boy...they weren't kidding.......took a 3' pipe and even then I had trouble breaking it loose......Ends up that GM has some type of compound applied to the flange that contacts the crank and it must act as a glue also......So .....followed the rest of the instructions and got the dowel pin in...Put in the new bolt and tightened it to Spec.....Put the starter back in and moved on to the top end..........
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Great Progress [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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you watch baseball you can't sit still that long LOL nice progress
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Here's a trick for those not afraid to tempt fate. Disconnect the coil wire(unless you are feeling frisky), put the breaker bar on the crank bolt, jump in the car and turn the key to start. The breaker bar will hit the frame and loosen the bolt. I do it on timing belt jobs on late model cars all the time. Looking good Ken!
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Took the easy way out today and used the engine hoist to get the Supercharger in position......worked out perfect.....Got everything in position......installed the new fuel rails and injectors......got the adaptors and wiring for the Injectors installed.....everything going smoothly, until installing the coils.........seems the Coil plugs and Injector Plugs are fighting for the same space.........Have to modify the coil mounts brackets to a new position so everything will fit together........Not a big deal but something Edelbrock should have caught..........
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ken, on all girls garage they did the same install on chevy truck. they said to trim the coil mounting brackets. Roger
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Like roger said........Grind clearance in the Coil Mounting bracket.......Before and after pic's.....
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...BF41A972AE.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...DEDEF49E7D.jpg But........The coils and the injector plugs are still fighting for the same space......I was just going to leave out the top coil bolts and rotate the coils to clear.......Until I was going to mount the brackets that hold the engine cover in place......they use those coil mount holes so ..........I don't like the way these plugs are jammed together though........I might end up making my own coil mount brackets that will move the coils and still allow for the engine cover to mount correctly......But...again.......Edelbrock should have supplied brackets to allow for this situation.......I can make new brackets but what about the guy doing this in his Garage and doesn't have access to a machine shop to do the job correctly.......Poor Engineering on Edelbrocks part.........Just say'in........ You can see in this picture the upper coil bolt is out and the coil is rotated back to provide clearance........you can see the issue.... http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...3B09765BF1.jpg But......on a better note.....I installed all the pulley's and tensioner........The old belt was a little short so I guessed on the size and went to Autozone and had to go thru the "Sir....What year make and model car routine"........I asked if I could just go and look at the belts.........Guessed at 101.5" .......brought it back home at it fit perfect.........the old belt was 99.7" and just missed going on.........got Lucky !!!!............I got the passenger side Engine cover on........then I decided to reinstalled the radiator band throttle body..........again........everything clears....... http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...EC9294BDF0.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...8F3AECA463.jpg Enough for today........LOL |
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Ken, give vic a call and tell him the problem. Maybe you can make a coil bracket for him to put in the kit. At the very least, give them your feedback.
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You would think if you paid this much $$ for a system -- it would bolt on with having to mod something as simple as brackets ... it appears the R&D folks were taking a break ... TAZ
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You would think if you paid this much $$ for a system -- it would bolt on with having to mod something as simple as brackets ... it appears the R&D folks were taking a break ... TAZ </div></div>
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Sometimes a hotrodders best tools are a grinder/grinding wheel and the infamous blue flame wrench!
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The "Ricks" Tank showed up also.........But........The fuel level module was on back order so I'll have to wait to put it in.........Ordered a Heat exchanger and a new smaller A/C compressor to fit into the low mounting space.........
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Made a little progress today with a setback also........First.....Talked to the Edelbrock Tech guy today and was told ........"Gee".......You are the first one to have problems with the coils hitting the injectors......LOL........I sent him pictures and haven't heard a word since.........Next......the A/C compressor I had on the car with plans to move it down low fell apart as the compressor is too big to fit in that area available........Gonna have to go with the smaller SD-7 Compressor........So....I made a low compressor mount today just like I made for the LSA in the Chevelle.......Feeling good........Get home and put it on and something didn't look right.....LOL........Duhhhh!!!.......I assumed that the dedicated A/C drive belt position would be in the same place as the LSA.........LOL..........1 3/16" difference.........Guess I get to make another one tomorrow........Darn !!!!..........But......I did get the driver side Aluminum Edelbrock Coil cover clearance for the master cylinder and alternator brackets......Also took the radiator back out so I have some room to get the compressor fit and mounted in that lower position.......two steps backward and one step forward......
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Very nice.....sure would be nice if you can remove the "Edelbrock" name script and replace it with....."Kwhizz" [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
BAD Edelbrock customer service with the Tech Guy that never called you back or emailed you.....that really urks me [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/thumbsdown.gif[/img] Dan |
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Dan, I like it....redo the top cover and put Kwhizz "K force"! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dan, I like it....redo the top cover and put Kwhizz "K force"! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img] </div></div>
Exactly [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img] Dan |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Very nice.....sure would be nice if you can remove the "Edelbrock" name script and replace it with....."Kwhizz" [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
BAD Edelbrock customer service with the Tech Guy that never called you back or emailed you.....that really urks me [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/thumbsdown.gif[/img] Dan </div></div> Call vic's daughter -- I'll bet she would take care of the "don't-give-a-crap" customer service person ... I wouldn't want her POd at me! TAZ |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Very nice.....sure would be nice if you can remove the "Edelbrock" name script and replace it with....."Kwhizz" [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
BAD Edelbrock customer service with the Tech Guy that never called you back or emailed you.....that really urks me [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/thumbsdown.gif[/img] Dan </div></div> Call vic's daughter -- I'll bet she would take care of the "don't-give-a-crap" customer service person ... I wouldn't want her POd at me! TAZ </div></div> Don't bother with emails or calls. You will have much better results sending a certified letter directly to the CEO of a corporation. You can get their corporate address via googling the company. I recently had a horrendous experience at a car rental car outlet, out west. When we got home from vacation I sent an 8-page letter to their CEO at corporate headquarters complete with photos of the 3 hour line, witness contact information, and statements from other customers there with us, who heard the manager threaten the customers if we called customer service on them. I sent the certified letter with tracking and a signature request. Forty five minutes after they received it, (according to the online tracking) I got a call from the CEO apologizing profusely, who immediately refunded half my rental. They also sent a team of investigators to experience for themselves what happens there. They ended up sacking the entire staff who were operating like a rogue bunch of pirates, intimidating and overcharging customers. Very satisfying to know that the guy whose name was at the top of the company list, got directly involved once he knew what was happening at the street level. |
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Absolutely agree!
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So........Continuing on with the A/C compressor mounting .........Again.......I made the same lower mount I made for the LSA engine and when installing it I found out the LS2 had different Belt spacing on the Balancer......I measured the difference and started over today on a revised version........LOL.....Again....this is guess work until you actually put it together and see those clearance issues.......I had the other version draw up in Solidworks so I revised it to be what I now thought it should be.......Here are some pic's of designing and making the brackets......Brought them home and other than some clearance issues with the upper piece it went together perfectly......
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Slick :-)
Dan |
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Nothing better than a clean fab print! Can I have you teach some of the people that I have to deal with? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]
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You have too many damn toys -- awesome job! TAZ
I know a CNC machine will not fit in Santa's ride ... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img] |
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Checked off a couple more things on the to do list.....When I first looked at the space available for the A/C compressor.....I thought "No Problem"......LOL.......well I had to go with the smaller SD7 and with that I have about a 1/2 " clearance all around, but....It is in and in it's final position.......No room for a tensioner so I'll just keep the turnbuckle in place.......Had to turn over the upper mount and modify it for clearance for the A/C fittings......but it's all good now........
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...056F9CF4C4.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...0BE82D4CFC.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...BFE4EC97B2.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...FB1483C9F5.jpg The next thing to resolve was the Injector/Coil issue........Thru recommendations I bought a set of Holley valve covers than change the mounting position of the coils........Bingo...... http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...9DBCD10721.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...240005E433.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...7B4B2D76C3.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...526312CAA3.jpg |
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