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Postsedan 05-23-2011 05:28 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Great pic, looking forward to the ink! Congrats!

Dan

njsteve 07-11-2011 12:42 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Took her out to the local cruise night in Flemington, NJ yesterday. Good showing of cars there and it was about 90 degrees out.

There's nothing like rolling up the windows and running the A/C full blast on a hot day. She ran ran great -and the temp gauge never went above the first notch. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

njsteve 07-24-2011 01:07 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Since we are in the midst of an apocaliptic heat wave here, (It was 108 yesterday), I took the 72 T/A out for a spin in the inferno, better known as New Jersey, today.

I went to the local cruise night again but only 20 cars showed up due to the oppressive heat.

The car uses its original, four-speed radiator (no trans cooler) that was recored with a modern three row, copper core. She handled the climate amazingly well. Here's some temp samples taken with a heat gun:

Outside Temp: 102 degrees
Pavement Temp: 121 degrees
Pass-Side Radiator Tank Temp: 153 degrees
Dr-Side Radiator Tank Temp: 183 degrees
Thermostat Housing Temp: 197 degrees

A/C on Max, center outlet temp: 35 degrees [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cool.gif[/img] There's nothing like a good running, old R12 system.

Factory temp gauge reading: about a millimeter past the first hash mark on the gauge.

njsteve 07-24-2011 08:10 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Today's 72 T/A Temperature Update:

Outside Temp: 92 degrees
Pavement Temp: 110 degrees
Pass-Side Radiator Tank Temp: 138 degrees
Dr-Side Radiator Tank Temp: 178 degrees
Thermostat Housing Temp: 185 degrees

Factory gauge reading: directly on the first hashmark

A/C still blowing nice and cold [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cool.gif[/img]

So there you have it, I guess the first mystery hash mark on the gauge is 185, even though it is exactly halfway between &quot;100&quot; and &quot;210&quot; on the dial. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]


njsteve 07-24-2011 08:12 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
I spent a hour or so removing a valve train noise that I suspected was the crazy oil dripper contraption that the 455HO's used under the valve covers. It was a tinny/clanky sound that obviously wasn't a lifter but was definitely in the valvetrain somewhere.

It seems that the roller tipped rockers I am using were nicking the oil dripper indentations on the passenger side. I pulled both valve covers and removed the contraptions as they are not really needed with the roller tipped rockers. There is enough oil spray coming out of the rockers to lubricate everything that needs lubricating in there, anyway.

Top view:

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...c/S7007082.jpg

Underside view:

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...c/S7007077.jpg

Closeup view. Some of the nicks are old and some look fresh and shiny.

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...c/S7007080.jpg


Now there are no more annoying noises that shouldn't be there. Just the annoying noises that should be. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

njsteve 07-25-2011 12:34 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Now through the wonders of modern science, you can hear for yourself what the engine sounds like, after I removed those pesky dripper shields.

Just click on the photo:

http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/...h_S7007086.jpg

Xplantdad 07-25-2011 02:33 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Nice!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

njsteve 07-29-2011 03:07 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
If the weather holds out for Friday, I may drive down to the Fossils Car Club cruise down in Hamilton NJ tomorrow, in case anyone is in the area. It's a mega cruise night that they used to hold at the Jackson Outlets. The cruise moved to this new location, this year.

http://www.fossilscarclub.com/cruisenight.html

njsteve 07-30-2011 05:08 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Made it down to the cruise. Weather was iffy but met up with some good people. The drive home was entertaining. It was an 85 mile round trip, made it to about 10 miles from the house and then the skies opened up. The wipers worked fine and I got home safe and then washed the road dirt off in the driveway while it was still raining. Once I finished washing, the sun came out again (typical). [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...c/S7007108.jpg

KevinW's 69 327 ragtop. Very nice car. At least he didn't get rained on because he lives near the cruise lcation. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img]


http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...c/S7007109.jpg


[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img]

Xplantdad 07-30-2011 05:09 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Nice shots Steve!

njsteve 07-30-2011 05:15 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
I posted a couple shots of a really cool survivor 62 421/405 in the PonchVilla section and a real 41 Willys street rod with a 528 Hemi, in the Mopar section. The threatening weather kept a lot of people away but it was a nice place to visit and hang out.

njsteve 07-31-2011 12:28 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Just filled up the T/A with gas after last night's cruise. I actually managed to set a new personal best, mileage record at *11.1 mpg highway, 8 mpg city.


*Remember, use these figures to compare. Your actual mileage may vary. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img]

njsteve 08-11-2011 02:18 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 

A little test driving this evening. Checking if she's still in tune. (All within the posted speed limit, of course)

http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/...h_S7007164.jpg

(click on the photo) [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

Xplantdad 08-11-2011 02:21 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Nice Steve! The sound reminds me of my brothers Formula Firebird!

Awesome... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

njsteve 08-11-2011 02:27 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Nothing sounds like an angry Quadrajet (when they work properly). The car breaks the tires loose when the secondaries come in. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

If you watch the shaker closely, you can see the flapper open at the same time the secondaries kick in.

napa68 08-11-2011 03:33 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Consider the mail...............hauled.

grantprix 08-11-2011 03:50 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Love it! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif[/img]

mockingbird812 08-11-2011 02:04 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Git some!!! Sounds good. Love seeing the flapper doing its thing! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img]

njsteve 09-16-2011 05:06 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Never stop tinkering. One of the honeycombs on the car was just a slightly different shade for several years now. It finally annoyed me enough to do something about it today. This was the result of a later purchased spray can of the now defunct, OEM Paints Honeycomb paint (which at the time was selling at the ridiculous price of $79 a spray can).

A few months ago I had my local Napa dealer mix me up a quart of single stage Honeycomb paint. It took them a lot of searching and a phone call to their supplier but they were finally able to cross reference the PPG DQE 8906 number over to Martin Senour #55-5327. A quart was about $35. (It requires a $25 can of hardener as well). I barely used a quarter of the quart can to paint the four wheels. You can also order direct from these people: www.tcpglobal.com

I ended up dismounting the front half of the tires so as not to disturb the balance weight positions on the backside. I wrapped the rubber in a couple plastic garbage bags per tire and tucked it under the front rim edges. I then mixed the paint, hardener and reducer and used a Preval spray bottle to apply the paint, since I don't have a paint gun. Once it cured, It aired the tires back up to reseat the beads, put the caps back on and all was well again.

The result was better than I expected. Comparing the color with an original paint wheel and it looks pretty much dead on. (even better than the OEM Paint mix, which was a bit too gun-metal colored, or at least the later can was)

Original wheel:

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...68c/c05e_1.jpg

Repainted wheel:

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...c/S7007310.jpg

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...c/S7007308.jpg

I guess I'll do the Polyglas mounted set next.
Just so they all match. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

MrsBillyBobcat 09-17-2011 05:44 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
They look AWESOME Steve! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img]

njsteve 10-03-2011 11:51 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
If anybody is near a newstand, the T/A is supposed to come out in the January issue of High Performance Pontiac, which hits the stands in October. My subscription copy always arrives suspiciously late and dog-eared from the mailman pre-reading it for several weeks before it shows up in my mailbox.

Please give me a heads up if you come across a copy. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

Xplantdad 10-04-2011 11:15 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
I will look for it for you Steve!

njsteve 10-08-2011 02:06 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Holy $&amp;@#!

How did we get to half a million views on this insane seven year rant?

If I had a dime for every view I could have paid for a third of the resto cost. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

I guess it's like a train wreck: you just gotta stop and look.

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif[/img]


DarrenX33 10-08-2011 10:27 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
The thread speaks for itself pal. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

njsteve 10-13-2011 01:15 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
After trying all sorts of stuff to remove the 40 year old waterspots on the back window, and reading the recent thread in the tech section here: https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...594#Post462594
I decided to try the SPOT-X water stain remover. I found it on Amazon.com for about $15.

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...268c/spotx.jpg

Here's the acid rain waterspots that up til were impervious to everything I tried: clay, rubbing compound, 0000 steel wool, 80 grit on a DA sander...

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...aterspots1.jpg

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...waterspots.jpg






njsteve 10-13-2011 01:22 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
It was really rather simple. You dampen the white scotchbrite pad and put a couple tablespoons of the powder on the pad. You rub using finger pressure only.

Make sure you don't get the powder on any aluminum trim or painted surfaces, if you do, wash it off, DO NOT TRY TO RUB IT OFF THE PAINT.

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...68c/during.jpg


Here is the left half after one application. You can already see the shiny-ness, returning

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...alfandhalf.jpg

njsteve 10-13-2011 01:26 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
And the final result after about thirty minutes of effort:

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...68c/after2.jpg

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...268c/after.jpg

The stuff actually works great. After the glass cleaning, I did then have to re-polish the aluminum window trim with a quick application of Simichrome but that was no big deal.

VintageMusclecar 10-13-2011 01:54 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
If it looks 1/2 as good in real life as it does in the pics, then that's some impressive stuff.

njsteve 10-13-2011 02:00 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
It was pretty amazing stuff. It will also scratch aluminum window trim instantly if you accidentally rub too far from the edge of the glass. Don't even think about getting it near the paint. Some masking tape would probably be a good idea at the perimeter of the glass, just to be safe. This stuff is about the consistency and abrasiveness of Comet cleanser.

njsteve 10-13-2011 08:00 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
I went out hunting for the magazine this morning and found them at Barnes&amp;Noble. A very happy day! Just in time for my wife's birthday. She will be so surprised when I give her an autographed copy as her birthday present. Stay tuned for further updates! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...PPontiacTA.jpg

Xplantdad 10-13-2011 11:15 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Looks great...congrats Steve...you've earned it....three times over! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

njsteve 10-22-2011 06:44 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Thank you very much. I'd love to bring it to MCACN but the Charger is going instead...to try to drum up some prospective buyer interest, maybe.

MrsBillyBobcat 10-22-2011 08:35 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
<span style="font-size: 14pt">CONGRATULATIONS Steve!</span> [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] <span style="font-size: 14pt">It looks AWESOME! </span> [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just in time for my wife's birthday. She will be so surprised when I give her an autographed copy as her birthday present. Stay tuned for further updates! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

</div></div>

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]

So....how'd she like it? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

mockingbird812 10-22-2011 10:58 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Excellent Steve and Congratulations. Boy, that panel fit looks so,,,so,,,so......unfactory-like. Nice job!!

njsteve 10-23-2011 01:37 AM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrsBillyBobcat</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 14pt">CONGRATULATIONS Steve!</span> [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] <span style="font-size: 14pt">It looks AWESOME! </span> [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just in time for my wife's birthday. She will be so surprised when I give her an autographed copy as her birthday present. Stay tuned for further updates! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

</div></div>

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]

So....how'd she like it? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img] </div></div>

Rita,

Actually I chickened out and gave her our customary family gift of a home-made limerick. We do it for everyone's birthday in our house. Even the kids are required to draft one up.

Here is my &quot;gift&quot; for my better half. It covers her two biggest gripes: we have way too many dogs and I have way too many hats stashed all around the house. Of course she also says there aren't enough cats, even though we have the same # of finicky felines as dastardly dogs (all are rescues, including the blind one in the lower right, in the picture).

She loved it!

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...merick2011.jpg

We should have enough limericks to fill a book by next year. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

mockingbird812 10-23-2011 03:48 AM

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Great tradition Steve. You may want to keep your day job, however! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/whistle.gif[/img]

MrsBillyBobcat 10-23-2011 10:04 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Rita,

Actually I chickened out and gave her our customary family gift of a home-made limerick. We do it for everyone's birthday in our house. Even the kids are required to draft one up.

Here is my &quot;gift&quot; for my better half. It covers her two biggest gripes: we have way too many dogs and I have way too many hats stashed all around the house. Of course she also says there aren't enough cats, even though we have the same # of finicky felines as dastardly dogs (all are rescues, including the blind one in the lower right, in the picture).

She loved it!

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...merick2011.jpg

We should have enough limericks to fill a book by next year. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img] </div></div>

<span style="font-size: 14pt">LOL Steve! That is way COOL!!! </span> [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]
Homemade cards/ gifts are the BEST! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] Thanks so much for sharing! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img]



njsteve 12-01-2011 04:05 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
I finally got some tires for the rims that I won from Year One for my Gramma Rose's 1975 Firebird. They will be going on Gramma's Firebird but I wanted to see how they fit on the T/A in terms of clearance and ride.

They are the 275/40x17 BFGs as recommended by Year One. They actually fit fine with no rubbing whatsoever! I drove around some windy/bumpy roads to check for rubbing and didn't hear or feel a thing. The car does handle and drive a bit stiffer than the BFG 235/60x15s I normally run, but the ride is nowhere near as jarring as the orginal bias ply F60x15 Polyglas tires.

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...c/S7007516.jpg

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t.../S7007519a.jpg

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...c/S7007522.jpg

I compared the height measurements of each tire and they are as follows:

F60x15 Goodyear Polyglas: 26&quot; tall
235/60x15 BFG Radial T/A: 25.5&quot; tall
275/40x17 BFG Sports: 25&quot; tall (of course the BFG spec sheet said they were 25.9 tall on a 9 rim [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img])

I'll try to get the weights of each tire later today when I move them over to Gramma's car but I can tell you the 17&quot; set up is really heavy (one of the tires landed on my pinky while moving them out of the truck and I was not a happy camper). [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

BTW, these are the original 114,000 mile front and rear springs on this car. You do see a bunch of space above the tire in the wheelwell. If I had it to do over again, I might go with a 45 series tire to get a bit more fill in the wheel well.

njsteve 12-01-2011 04:06 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
Here's the three tires on the car:

F60x15 Polyglas:

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...HO4speed2a.jpg

235/60x15 BFG:

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t.../S7006635a.jpg

275/40x17 BFG:

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...c/S7007516.jpg

njsteve 12-01-2011 11:48 PM

Re: 72 TA : New Project
 
And here they are where they belong, on Gramma Rose's Firebird:

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...c/S7007530.jpg

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...c/S7007535.jpg

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]


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