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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Now no scratches when you go to install everything [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
Dan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Yup Paint is too fragile for me:-)
Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Checked into the driveshaft loop place I had picked out and they no longer make or sell them:-(
Looking for the bolt on type as inconspicuous as possible:-) Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Checked into the driveshaft loop place I had picked out and they no longer make or sell them:-(
Looking for the bolt on type as inconspicuous as possible:-) Ryan </div></div> I may have one of those bolt-on units here, but will have to check. Took it off a car a few years back, and don't remember if I sold it or not. If I find it, I'll get it to you. |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Ryan, I have a spare Caruso loop. no drilling of any holes required. It has a "lip" (for lack of a better description) that rests on crossmember and mounts to transmission mount, powdercoated black, new in box. I had envisioned racing my green car, but have decided not too; funding one race car is enough. Try to do a search for "Caruso driveshaft loop" if you are interested. I think I paid about $80.00 plus shipping and you can have it for that. See if Rick has his, if not and you wanna see pics of this let me know.
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Thanks guys, sounds like a couple good options.
I will look up the Caruso loop and check out what Rick has:-) I need this if I go faster than 13.99 at PSMCDR:-) (right now this seems a little distant:-) Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Wow Ryan, this all looks all too familiar. As you know, I'm doing basically the exact same thing
a few points based on others feedback/comments on the last couple pages inner fenders are plastic, powdercoating is a bad idea. You don't want to melt them as real Ram Rod/W-31 inners can't be found. but I'm sure you knew that. center link - I have seen them with a blue tint also driveshaft loop, the Caruso would work perfectly. I was going to suggest Ram Air Restoration Enterprise as they have a no drill loop. the finned rear drums aren't correct. the bell or mushroom style right in front are correct. |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: junior supercar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow Ryan, this all looks all too familiar. As you know, I'm doing basically the exact same thing
a few points based on others feedback/comments on the last couple pages inner fenders are plastic, powdercoating is a bad idea. You don't want to melt them as real Ram Rod/W-31 inners can't be found. but I'm sure you knew that. center link - I have seen them with a blue tint also driveshaft loop, the Caruso would work perfectly. I was going to suggest Ram Air Restoration Enterprise as they have a no drill loop. the finned rear drums aren't correct. the bell or mushroom style right in front are correct. Hi Chris, it was great to meet at PSMCDR, and MCACN!!!! Yup, no plastic in the oven:-) I have the tie rods already, and have the pitman arm and center link on order, I will see what they look like and I am thinking about coating the steering components with Boe-Shield or one of the recommended protectants so my chassis restoration has just that one more step towards perfection:-) (Slippery slope) I will check that DSL supplier as well. The have procured non-finned drums for all the way around:-) (The finned rears will be blasted and powder coated for spare, but not machined, if the cost is reasonable) PS: Remember we found the one side of my car has the W-30,31,32 front fender support bracket and special Phillips screws and the other has the normal non W-Machine bracket and bolts........ you mentioned possibly having an extra........ LMK I can't remember which side, I will have to look. "OAI W-Machine" wiper washer fluid bottle? (Mine has a little piece missing for the corner, casually looking) 4 speed shifter floor hump out of a rust free donor car? Ryan </div></div> |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DW31S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ryan, I have a spare Caruso loop. no drilling of any holes required. It has a "lip" (for lack of a better description) that rests on crossmember and mounts to transmission mount, powdercoated black, new in box. I had envisioned racing my green car, but have decided not too; funding one race car is enough. Try to do a search for "Caruso driveshaft loop" if you are interested. I think I paid about $80.00 plus shipping and you can have it for that. See if Rick has his, if not and you wanna see pics of this let me know. </div></div>
This is the same part I was trying to buy, he no longer makes them. TBD.... casually looking into this. Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Ryan, I sent you pictures via text.
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
That is the perfect part Dave!!
Many thanks for keeping my restoration on your radar!! Now I will need to get moving so I can officially require a DSL at 13.99........... Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rixls6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would think the flywheel was resurfaced already, then never used, from what I see.
Probably just clean off the surface rust. </div></div>x2 The bearing is better in my experience Take the snap ring out the the bearing Get the number off of the bearing Hopefully you can get a replacement.... |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: daverd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rixls6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would think the flywheel was resurfaced already, then never used, from what I see.
Probably just clean off the surface rust. </div></div>x2 The bearing is better in my experience Take the snap ring out the the bearing Get the number off of the bearing Hopefully you can get a replacement.... </div></div> I will look into this, what is a positive of the bearing lower friction, longer lasting, able to handle more radial force? Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Funny story: I received the quote to media blast and powder coat my frame, suspension pieces and one set of rims, one set of rims just blast and prime.
Although I am confident the facility would have done a great job the cost was not within my budget. Again looking for a media blaster/powder coater semi close to me:-) Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Why does everything have to be powder coated?
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Have the frame blasted and blast all the small stuff yourself. Then paint everything.
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rixls6</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Checked into the driveshaft loop place I had picked out and they no longer make or sell them:-(
Looking for the bolt on type as inconspicuous as possible:-) Ryan </div></div> I may have one of those bolt-on units here, but will have to check. Took it off a car a few years back, and don't remember if I sold it or not. If I find it, I'll get it to you. </div></div> Sorry Ryan, I apparently sold that bolt-on loop along with some other performance stuff awhile back, just didn't remember specifically. |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rixls6</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rixls6</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Checked into the driveshaft loop place I had picked out and they no longer make or sell them:-(
Looking for the bolt on type as inconspicuous as possible:-) Ryan </div></div> I may have one of those bolt-on units here, but will have to check. Took it off a car a few years back, and don't remember if I sold it or not. If I find it, I'll get it to you. </div></div> Sorry Ryan, I apparently sold that bolt-on loop along with some other performance stuff awhile back, just didn't remember specifically. </div></div> All good, thanks for looking, Dave hooked me up:-) Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Dude</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have the frame blasted and blast all the small stuff yourself. Then paint everything. </div></div>
I am focusing on long term reliability, I plan to hand the car down from one generation to the next. I don't want my grandkids to have to take the car apart and re-restore it, unless they want to of course. Power coat is better than paint. Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Nothing lasts forever.
So far powder coat is beyond your budget correct? A arms, rear end housings, and suspension pieces dont need to be powder coated. You can source really nice pit free pieces from out west and paint them to look like brand new for less than powder coating your original pieces. Nothing on my frame is powder coated except for the core support. Everything was blasted, filled, epoxy'ed and painted. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps4eb3da92.jpg Powder coat your frame if its a must, but the other stuff doesnt need it. |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Thanks again!
Your frame looks really nice!!! Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
The Dude,
You did your project the way you wanted......let's allow Ryan to do it his way [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] If Ryan decides to Powder Coat his Gear Shift Lever.....it's his Lever. Dan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Obviously it's Ryan's choice, but I would agree that powder coating can leave much to be desired over a good quality gun-sprayed paint. I would say painting is even more advantageous on a Midwest car with rust pitting on the undercarriage...because it can be filled and sanded smooth.
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Dude,
You did your project the way you wanted......let's allow Ryan to do it his way [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] If Ryan decides to Powder Coat his Gear Shift Lever.....it's his Lever. Dan </div></div> Big brother Dan:-) "My Lever" Ryan PS: got another two leads on Media blast/Powder Coat companies, one from a site member and we had a great chat always the best part of car stuff!! I found one piece of the sway bar end link still attached that I need to cut off, also need to get the seals out of the rear.... I tried my slide hammer but it was too petite :-( I have seen something that screws into the seal and attaches to a bigger slide hammer? |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Dude,
You did your project the way you wanted......let's allow Ryan to do it his way [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] If Ryan decides to Powder Coat his Gear Shift Lever.....it's his Lever. Dan </div></div> So apparently we cant offer any tips other than "nice job" and "looks good". Scuncio said what I said weeks ago about powder and pitting. Powder coating his frame is the wrong idea and will not turn out like he wants it to. He has his springs in the blast powder pile. No idea if he plans on coating them but that is a bad idea too. New springs are relatively cheap. Eaton says this about powdercoating them... <span style="font-weight: bold">In order to get the paint particles hot enough to bond they must be heated very close to the annealing temperature of the spring steel. Annealing means the heat treatment of the springs is being removed. Annealed springs will no longer support any weight.</span> Im sorry Im not saying thatta boy with everything I see. Im trying to save him some headaches and money wasted on stuff he doesnt need to do. |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
It's obvious that you are against Powder Coat....it's clearly not for you and we get that.....now let us allow Ryan do what he wishes to do.
Dan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
I have the opportunity to powder coat just about anything I need done and I pass on it in favor of painting. Not a fan of the thick look you get with powder coating. I can't see powder coating on springs lasting all that long with as much as they move.
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Hi Chris, it was great to meet at PSMCDR, and MCACN!!!! Yup, no plastic in the oven:-) I have the tie rods already, and have the pitman arm and center link on order, I will see what they look like and I am thinking about coating the steering components with Boe-Shield or one of the recommended protectants so my chassis restoration has just that one more step towards perfection:-) (Slippery slope) I will check that DSL supplier as well. The have procured non-finned drums for all the way around:-) (The finned rears will be blasted and powder coated for spare, but not machined, if the cost is reasonable) PS: Remember we found the one side of my car has the W-30,31,32 front fender support bracket and special Phillips screws and the other has the normal non W-Machine bracket and bolts........ you mentioned possibly having an extra........ LMK I can't remember which side, I will have to look. "OAI W-Machine" wiper washer fluid bottle? (Mine has a little piece missing for the corner, casually looking) 4 speed shifter floor hump out of a rust free donor car? Ryan </div></div> I've only been able to locate complete car sets of those phillips head "bolts". I have some singles still on braces or fenders and can't get them off. I have stuff off getting plated, so let me see what happens when it all comes back. I thought it was driver side. as for that frame discussion, I would vote for dipping and e-coating. There's a place outside Milw that costs $1000. I had some items powdercoated years ago and just not happy with them. However, I did have some rims powdercoated, then I painted the correct color on the face and those came out nice. The powdercoating does add thickness to the parts and the rims always seem to stick on axle flanges and area on the front drums where the bearing go. These are the SSII on my W-31 if one is wondering. I just need to sand that opening in the rim down more, but without going all the way to bare metal. the washer bottle is the same as all other 68/69, it's just bolted onto the other inner fender. I have a REAL nice one, but I compared it to the one off my W-31 and the mounting holes are larger. Yet there is no evidence of them ever having a screw installed to them. weird. I can't help you on the shifter hump. Boeshield is good stuff. I'm using it on the fuel tank in my GT-37. And on the brake lines on my truck since the salt is just eating the underside of it. This spring it gets new brake lines that are already coated. |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
I feel the love and support guys!!
i love the upside of powder, decision made! Remember this poor old car sat for 39 years, she needs some shine and a good run!! Not shine and more sitting!, Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: junior supercar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Hi Chris, it was great to meet at PSMCDR, and MCACN!!!! Yup, no plastic in the oven:-) I have the tie rods already, and have the pitman arm and center link on order, I will see what they look like and I am thinking about coating the steering components with Boe-Shield or one of the recommended protectants so my chassis restoration has just that one more step towards perfection:-) (Slippery slope) I will check that DSL supplier as well. The have procured non-finned drums for all the way around:-) (The finned rears will be blasted and powder coated for spare, but not machined, if the cost is reasonable) PS: Remember we found the one side of my car has the W-30,31,32 front fender support bracket and special Phillips screws and the other has the normal non W-Machine bracket and bolts........ you mentioned possibly having an extra........ LMK I can't remember which side, I will have to look. "OAI W-Machine" wiper washer fluid bottle? (Mine has a little piece missing for the corner, casually looking) 4 speed shifter floor hump out of a rust free donor car? Ryan </div></div> I've only been able to locate complete car sets of those phillips head "bolts". I have some singles still on braces or fenders and can't get them off. I have stuff off getting plated, so let me see what happens when it all comes back. I thought it was driver side. as for that frame discussion, I would vote for dipping and e-coating. There's a place outside Milw that costs $1000. I had some items powdercoated years ago and just not happy with them. However, I did have some rims powdercoated, then I painted the correct color on the face and those came out nice. The powdercoating does add thickness to the parts and the rims always seem to stick on axle flanges and area on the front drums where the bearing go. These are the SSII on my W-31 if one is wondering. I just need to sand that opening in the rim down more, but without going all the way to bare metal. the washer bottle is the same as all other 68/69, it's just bolted onto the other inner fender. I have a REAL nice one, but I compared it to the one off my W-31 and the mounting holes are larger. Yet there is no evidence of them ever having a screw installed to them. weird. I can't help you on the shifter hump. Boeshield is good stuff. I'm using it on the fuel tank in my GT-37. And on the brake lines on my truck since the salt is just eating the underside of it. This spring it gets new brake lines that are already coated. </div></div> Thanks Chris Keep me in mind as you search for parts you seem connected!! I will do a sample piece or two when I decide on a powder coater to ensure we are on the same page. Is the good washer fluid bottle on hold for my W-31 or yours? :-) Imagine for a minute...... PSMCDR 20?? We can race our W-31's winner buys dinner!! Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Here are some sample pictures of work done by the place in TO that marshall here on SYC recommended I check into next week!
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9144-image.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9145-image.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9146-image.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9147-image.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9148-image.jpg If they can recreate this quality on my pieces I will be extatic Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Looks great Ryan [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
Dan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
who did the coating Ryan
Quik9r |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: quik9r</div><div class="ubbcode-body">who did the coating Ryan
Quik9r </div></div> PM sent ( I will share if I am going there) Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-img_4533.jpg
or you can have this one!..or should I keep it. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-img_4533.jpg
or you can have this one!..or should I keep it. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] </div></div> Generous offer!!!! Thanks but no thanks, I am buying the CPR no drilling style:-) Let's plan to build a purpose built PSMCDR car together once mine is ready:-) (this can be the first part and I have an engine:-) Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-img_4533.jpg
or you can have this one!..or should I keep it. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] </div></div> Generous offer!!!! Thanks but no thanks, I am buying the CPR no drilling style:-) Let's plan to build a purpose built PSMCDR car together once mine is ready:-) (this can be the first part and I have an engine:-) Ryan</div></div> As I am building a street car (not a carpet/show car) I installed one like this. With a few mods here and there it tucked into the tunnel very well. TAZ |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-img_4533.jpg
or you can have this one!..or should I keep it. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] </div></div> Generous offer!!!! Thanks but no thanks, I am buying the CPR no drilling style:-) Let's plan to build a purpose built PSMCDR car together once mine is ready:-) (this can be the first part and I have an engine:-) Ryan</div></div> As I am building a street car (not a carpet/show car) I installed one like this. With a few mods here and there it tucked into the tunnel very well. TAZ </div></div> Very cool!!! Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
whats the no drill look like? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]
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