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1railman 05-20-2008 04:03 PM

Re: Mecum car prices
 
If I had gone, I would have bumped that '68 L89 Corvette. 9000 mile all original for $115, I thought was a very good buy.

mrrec 05-20-2008 05:35 PM

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It was a great venue. I didn't spend any time in the adjoining neighborhoods. Likewise, I don't do that anywhere else so it really doesn't matter too much to me anything other than the cars (and lack of mud and dust on my car).

I've bought and sold at B-J, Russo and Mecum. Nobody works harder than Dana to sell your car and treat you right as a buyer.

I believe there are fewer and fewer real, no BS, documented cars at auction. How many RS Zs, xram, JL8 were there? No docs. Price means nothing on these to me (I'd rather have one of those rare non xram cars anyway). Reading the auction results without having intimate knowledge of the car in question means little. When you see a 69 396 Pace Car that was a no sale that only bid to about $37k, you might think "recession". Or you could've been there and looked under the hood and have seen the EGR valve sticking out of the junk truck motor.......

Dave

SBR 05-21-2008 04:22 AM

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If I had gone, I would have bumped that '68 L89 Corvette. 9000 mile all original for $115, I thought was a very good buy.

[/ QUOTE ] Harold, I too wanted to bid on the car, it is an awesome piece! I was shocked that he lifted the reserve but it was a great deal for someone.

csx289 05-21-2008 07:41 AM

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The 9k mile L89 car just happens to be in Milwaukee now...

Xplantdad 05-21-2008 05:20 PM

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Will it go on the Copperstate Rally next year? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

SBR 05-22-2008 04:05 AM

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The 9k mile L89 car just happens to be in Milwaukee now...

[/ QUOTE ] Colin, congrats on a fine purchase! You stole that car. Is the car going in your personal collection or did you buy it for inventory?

1railman 05-22-2008 04:57 AM

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The 9k mile L89 car just happens to be in Milwaukee now...

[/ QUOTE ] Colin, congrats on a fine purchase! You stole that car. Is the car going in your personal collection or did you buy it for inventory?

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I agree. I was never one for white Corvettes, but when I saw it at Carlisle NCRS Gallery it was my favorite car.

Les Quam 05-22-2008 04:59 AM

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I don't think Colin bought it? I think a friend of Colin's from Milwaukee bought it? But I could be wrong? Or I could be living under a rock like Charley thinks? LOL https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...arleySucks.gif

mockingbird812 05-22-2008 05:27 AM

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Mecum website states 55% sale rate.

1969z280 05-22-2008 05:41 AM

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Mecum Auctions average a 54% sell through so, this one was spot on. It was a great venue if you were into buing cars. Thank God we've seen the last of the mud and storms associated with Belvidere. I had a GREAT TIME and bought two beautiful cars and once again the Mecum Folks couldn't have done a better job! I don't have a party line to tow ... just my opinion. Ed https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Mr70 05-22-2008 05:50 AM

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"Thank God we've seen the last of the mud and storms associated with Belvidere".

I heard that,as when cars of this quality & magnitude are assembled under one roof,it's beneficial to ALL involved to have it be under hard construction and not some canvas tent flapping in the wind.
Adios Boone Co. Fairgrounds... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

Xplantdad 05-22-2008 07:19 AM

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Mecum Auctions average a 54% sell through so, this one was spot on. It was a great venue if you were into buing cars. Thank God we've seen the last of the mud and storms associated with Belvidere. I had a GREAT TIME and bought two beautiful cars and once again the Mecum Folks couldn't have done a better job! I don't have a party line to tow ... just my opinion. Ed https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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Hey Ed...what did you pick up...if you don't mind me asking? Were they blue? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

1969z280 05-22-2008 07:30 PM

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Bruce:

I don't like being so predictable but, I couldn't help myself. I bought a 1970 Mulsanne Blue Z/28 M22 with the window sticker and POP. It went Friday as F218. Sunday before I left I bought a 1967 Lemans Convertible with an OHC 6. It's a restored 67,000 mile car and extemely cool in this time of high gas prices. Maybe John D. was more of a visionary than most give him credit for. But alas, it is Red. Ed

Xplantdad 05-22-2008 09:08 PM

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Cool Ed...they both sound like really cool cars! Congrats... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

Johnny Horsepower 05-23-2008 05:45 AM

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Bruce:

I don't like being so predictable but, I couldn't help myself. I bought a 1970 Mulsanne Blue Z/28 M22 with the window sticker and POP. It went Friday as F218. Sunday before I left I bought a 1967 Lemans Convertible with an OHC 6. It's a restored 67,000 mile car and extemely cool in this time of high gas prices. Maybe John D. was more of a visionary than most give him credit for. But alas, it is Red. Ed

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Ed, i wish I would have met you while I was there. Since we talked on the phone alot when I was looking for my Z, I figured we should meet in person.
Well next time we will hunt each other down.

JOHN https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

ohhawk 05-23-2008 06:14 AM

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Bruce:

I don't like being so predictable but, I couldn't help myself. I bought a 1970 Mulsanne Blue Z/28 M22 with the window sticker and POP. It went Friday as F218. Sunday before I left I bought a 1967 Lemans Convertible with an OHC 6. It's a restored 67,000 mile car and extemely cool in this time of high gas prices. Maybe John D. was more of a visionary than most give him credit for. But alas, it is Red. Ed

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Congrats on your 70Z purchase. Looked that car over pretty well a year ago and took it for a spin.

Mr70 05-23-2008 06:38 AM

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Is that the same 1970 Z/28 that GTO DON restored & made the cover of MCR?
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show...0/fpart/1/vc/1

1969z280 05-23-2008 07:40 AM

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Rick:

My car is not the one described in the thread. I am familiar with that car recently. It sold in Florida for $88K and failed to sell at Mecum for $91 or 92K. I'm not sure if that was real money or not. Mine is a beautifully restored 41,000 mile car that was brought to Mecum by a Mopar Dealer and I believe it was previously owned by a fellow in Arizona and restored by a fellow who died at age 41.

Johnny, sorry I missed you as well. I saw your car at Chevy Vette Fest but didn't see you around the show. Take a day and drive out to Columbia City this Summer. It's 3 hours form Perfect Ridge.

Ed https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Johnny Horsepower 05-23-2008 06:43 PM

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Johnny, sorry I missed you as well. I saw your car at Chevy Vette Fest but didn't see you around the show. Take a day and drive out to Columbia City this Summer. It's 3 hours form Perfect Ridge.

Ed https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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Might have to do that.....and Ed......you know it's Action Ridge https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

John

RM Schimel 05-24-2008 01:07 AM

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I thought Dana did a great job with the spring auction. The new facility is much nicer than the old swamp in Belvidere, Illinois. There were many nice cars for sale.

Once again this auction dictated just how important a solid history with paperwork has become for these cars now. It has greatly effected the Olds and Chevy cars without bulletproof histories and no documentation to prove authenticity. This was strongly demonstrated with the black Christenholz collection LS-6 ragtop with a truly solid past and known history selling for 500K… while a comparable blue LS-6 ragtop with no docs or reputation went for around 80K. If you can prove the legitimacy of an LS-6 ragtop or W-30 ragtop … the sky is the limit but if you cannot the cars will just SING clone to most savvy buyers today. Most of the finest Olds and Buick’s have always sold privately for the huge money anyway and not through the auction houses and that will probably continue in the future.

I have seen a recent increase for the 1969 Hurst Oldsmobile cars probably due to the fact that many of the VIN’s are known.

Overall though, I believe the market has remained strong on high quality cars but slipped on the fringe cars with no histories. I like the new location and thought it was a good time especially with the Indy time trials right next door. RM

JTH74 05-24-2008 05:23 PM

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Where did the Lemans Blue RS/ZL1 go? 2 years ago that car would probably have brought 1.5, regardless of price its one of the most significant cars to ever come off a GM production line, and congrats to the new owner!

rich p 05-25-2008 06:22 PM

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RS ZL1 is in Maryland !

csx289 05-25-2008 07:03 PM

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Black LS6 Convert is in Milwaukee (15 miles from where Dave bought it from the 2nd owner https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif )!

Mr70 05-25-2008 07:30 PM

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Nice!...

Bob Fuller,Iowa
Gary Esse,Wisco.
Dave Christenholz,Az.
Colin Comer,Wisco.
Me,littleburg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

Les Quam 05-26-2008 04:55 AM

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I had no idea Dave was the third owner of that car? I knew Fuller owned it until the late 80s because I have the Muscle car magazine article. Maybe Charley was right and I do live under a rock? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

csx289 05-26-2008 06:02 PM

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Yep, Fuller sold it to Gary Esse - who owns Madison Classics, the people that put on the Jefferson/Elkhorn/Waukesha show/ swap meets. I remember the car from when Gary had it on display in his showroom and at a few Jefferson shows. I forgot how good the docs are for the car, even got a great letter from Gary to Dave describing how the convertible top had only been down once for 10 min for the Super Chevy show. Of course, Mecum's guys put the top down and left it down for a week https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif so I'm going in to the shop today to hit it with the steamer to get the wrinkles out! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Canucklehead 05-26-2008 06:54 PM

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Anyone know what the "rocket car" brought?

Mr70 05-26-2008 07:21 PM

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The 'Tobacco King' rocket car brought $375K.
http://www.mecumauction.com/auctions...D=SC0508-65922

Les Quam 05-26-2008 08:38 PM

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Mr. Corner,
What docs came with the Fuller LS-6 car? The owner history and document history was not listed in the auction description.

csx289 05-26-2008 08:53 PM

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Quamo aka Juggernaut:

Fuller car has the original window sticker, original dealer invoice, POP, warranty book, 3(?) build sheets, etc. Basically every slip of paperwork. Fuller, from my understanding, drove the car for about 11 months and then mothballed it. Dave had Mark Scalpone take off the original belts, hose, tires, trans modulator, and waterpump to prep the car for a few passes at SCR9 (or was it SCRX?)... all the original items are in a box in the trunk. I almost had a heart attack when the truck driver delivered the car last week and "didn't know nothin' about no old tires"...of course, I found them in the front of his trailer and he replied "oh, dem is fo' yo' caa? Dem jus' some ol' REPRODUCTION polyglas tires, ain't they?" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif Thank God Dave had the preseence of mind to label them as "original tires black LS6"

Heck, the undercoating is still on the original tail pipes. Only issue is she is leaking coolant from somewhere, looks like a heater hose so I need to investigate. OK, I better get back to steaming the top out now.

Hey, next time you visit your Supercars in my shop you can take a closer look! Bring your Lactaid, and I'll buy the butter burgers and Sprecher root beer at Solly's https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Colin

olredalert 05-26-2008 09:48 PM

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-----Colin,,,About 1978 or 79 I bought a gorgeous red 1966 Hemi Satellite from Jerome Shinkay. He got it from Fuller. I later went to Bobs place on unrelated business and saw your new acquisition. At that time he was telling me he would be buried in the car, but obviously that thought changed. Even then I thought it was probably the coolest Chevelle ever ordered. About a year later my boss, Richard B had an auction downtown and I needed to sell one of two cars and the Hemi turned out to be the one. As it happened, Bob Fuller was at the auction with a beautiful 1970 454 Vette coupe, and he wanted the Hemi back. We ended up trading and somehow in the middle of all that Bob got angry at me and would never talk to me again. To this day I dont know what sparked him because as we all know, I am a warm wonderful human being. I should have been mad at him because the Corvette turned out to have a one piece Ecklers nose on it. It wouldnt have done me any good in any event and it was at least partially my fault for not looking over the car close enough. I trusted Bobs description, and while he might not have known I always sort of felt like he did.........Bill S

mc25t190 05-26-2008 10:22 PM

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The "Rocket" car belongs to a very close friend of mine here in Greensboro. He decided not to sell the car and bought it back. His son started getting upset the night before he was to leave town and head to Indiana. No money would have bought it. He called me when he got home and told me he was offered $700k with a trade to sell it. The guy that made the offer told him he thought it was a million dollar car, but, of course didn't have the money.The seller has plenty of money and believe me when he made up his mind he wasn't going to sell it , no amount of money would have bought it. It met reserve if that tells you anything. I have been up and down that car numerous times. He has it on a lift in his garage. You should see the workmanship that went into that car. It is wicked mean!

68CamSS 05-27-2008 12:14 AM

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Wasn't Grumpys 67 Camaro going to be up for auction?

Canucklehead 05-27-2008 08:18 PM

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The "Rocket" car belongs to a very close friend of mine here in Greensboro. He decided not to sell the car and bought it back. His son started getting upset the night before he was to leave town and head to Indiana. No money would have bought it. He called me when he got home and told me he was offered $700k with a trade to sell it. The guy that made the offer told him he thought it was a million dollar car, but, of course didn't have the money.The seller has plenty of money and believe me when he made up his mind he wasn't going to sell it , no amount of money would have bought it. It met reserve if that tells you anything. I have been up and down that car numerous times. He has it on a lift in his garage. You should see the workmanship that went into that car. It is wicked mean!

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Have you ever seen the car go for a run?

RM Schimel 05-28-2008 01:02 AM

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Congratulations Colin on the acquisition of such a historically significant auto…. Well done!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

SS427 05-28-2008 02:47 AM

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That is great news Colin and glad to see it is staying with one of our own. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

wagonman 05-28-2008 06:11 AM

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The "Rocket" car belongs to a very close friend of mine here in Greensboro. He decided not to sell the car and bought it back. His son started getting upset the night before he was to leave town and head to Indiana. No money would have bought it. He called me when he got home and told me he was offered $700k with a trade to sell it. The guy that made the offer told him he thought it was a million dollar car, but, of course didn't have the money.The seller has plenty of money and believe me when he made up his mind he wasn't going to sell it , no amount of money would have bought it. It met reserve if that tells you anything. I have been up and down that car numerous times. He has it on a lift in his garage. You should see the workmanship that went into that car. It is wicked mean!

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wait...did'nt i see the rocket car sell the weekend before last at the mecum auction?

i saw the reserve met and hands being shook!!!!!lloked like a done deal to me...... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

Charley Lillard 05-28-2008 07:00 AM

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You saw the owner in front of the podium buying his car back. I spoke to him at length and he was really regretting selling it. He hoped it would not meet reserve but if it did he would just bid to buy it back until he felt he couldn't bid any longer. Nice guy that realized just what he was giving up. He had it stored on a lift, under a cover and kind of forgot just how special of a car it is.

wagonman 05-29-2008 03:02 AM

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You saw the owner in front of the podium buying his car back. I spoke to him at length and he was really regretting selling it. He hoped it would not meet reserve but if it did he would just bid to buy it back until he felt he couldn't bid any longer. Nice guy that realized just what he was giving up. He had it stored on a lift, under a cover and kind of forgot just how special of a car it is.

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wow! nice story!!! i like that.....so he was able to keep his car after a quick sellers remorse......

i'm glad the buyer let him have his car back....i would have done the same thing.....good story!!!!!

still good people out there..i hope he wasnt out of pocket much.......hope the auction house voided all fees......but i kind of doubt it....

Charley Lillard 05-29-2008 05:36 AM

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He was the buyer and he was glad to pay the fees.


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