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And "Mr. Cumby"...what's with the "Mr. Blythe" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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It's all about respect. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif (with a touch of 'legal disclaimer')https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Dan,
Great story and may i say you have a nice color combo of a car.Can't wait to see it at Vette Fest this fall and I like the pics that Darren posted too.

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Burgundy Z's got Red stripes Automatically, the only color to get red ones...


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That sounds right,be it a burgundy hardtop or black V/top Z/28.
If it came with a parchment vinyl or convertible top-(non Z/28 here of course),it would've received white stripes then.

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Just an FYI- There is the Burgundy Z w/JL8 unrestored that has no vinyl top, white interior and white stripes. It was featured in the MacNeish book. So that theory isn't quite accurate.

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You guys might be getting tired of me after last night, however some may be interested in more details of Nov, 8, 1968. So like I was saying there was a lemans blue with white stripes sitting next to the burgandy car. It had an euro bumper and a front mounted antenna. Dealers did little mixes of options just to keep it interesting. D80s were on stop thats why my Dusk Blue hadn't come in yet and since I was growing impatient, I bought the burg. Since the burg. has a rear mount antenna I doubt if a D80 would even be available. There was a tremendous price increase over 68's and dealers felt the need to keep them as cheap as posible. Mine listed for $3854.70 and it is really basic. No tint even. The dumb thing the dealer did was ordering the standard gear with M21. I have to ride the clutch 200 feet just to get it going from a dead stop! 4.56s is actually the best fit for a M21. I see why the second series of Zs came with 8K tachs. I wind the needle half way around again going to 2nd. One Friday night coming out of Debs Drive Inn I powered 2nd at who knows what 8K, 85k I havn't a clue, kaboom the clutch exploded and fortunatly it went down instead of up and there was debris flying around scooting down the street in front of me. The explosion sheered the imput shaft off flush at the tranny even. The case wasn't hurt so I still have the vin on the side of the case. The dealer was only 2 blocks away so we pushed it down in front of the service doors, by Monday morning there must have been 15 Muscle cars sitting in front with simular problems. Factory defects were real common back then!!!!

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Neat story... I can just imagine Chevy service bays filled with nearly new Chevelles, Camaros, and Novas on the lifts with Muncies and 12 bolts scattered about on the shop floor... woulda been a cool era to live in. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

That Burgundy/Red is a wacky looking combo...I like it because it's an oddball, but it seems strange they thought that was an OK color for red stripes, yet you couldn't get red Z/28 stripes on a black or white Z with red guts, or on Cortez Silver, or...

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Neat story... I can just imagine Chevy service bays filled with nearly new Chevelles, Camaros, and Novas on the lifts with Muncies and 12 bolts scattered about on the shop floor... woulda been a cool era to live in. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif


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Definitely! It was a remarkable time. But that's why us Geezers are still hanging around with you young guns. We're reliving those days and watching you guys outta the corner of our eyes to make sure you get it right. When we're satisfied everything is in good hands, we'll fade away. So far you're doin pretty good,......... but we're havin fun too so be patient with us, OK? We ain't goin anywhere for a while! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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I have a theory that I can only speculate what probably happened the day 1,2,or 3 burgandy cars came down the line early in the production year. Mine was built 2nd week of Oct. I'll cover that some time. The bed is looking good to me for now.

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I have to add just one more thing for Joe Barr. Almost any combination was available. Like an Impala Wagon with a 427 4spd. I remember a blue C10 with a red interior. I had a friend that ordered a 64 Chevelle SS loaded with a 230 six cylinder in it! Everybody loved buckets but a few ordered bench seats with 4spds and now they are loved. From the time I was 10 years old I went to the show room every fall to get one of every sales brochure and of course I still have them all.

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Neat story... I can just imagine Chevy service bays filled with nearly new Chevelles, Camaros, and Novas on the lifts with Muncies and 12 bolts scattered about on the shop floor... woulda been a cool era to live in. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif


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Definitely! It was a remarkable time. But that's why us Geezers are still hanging around with you young guns. We're reliving those days and watching you guys outta the corner of our eyes to make sure you get it right. When we're satisfied everything is in good hands, we'll fade away. So far you're doin pretty good,......... but we're havin fun too so be patient with us, OK? We ain't goin anywhere for a while! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Dennis...you definitely have a way with words! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

Dan, please share more of your stories. Us people that are in between Dennis and Joe (that's me...actually closer to Dennis than Joe https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif ) would love to hear them.

And I agree with Dennis...I think the future is in good hands... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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Darren, That Burgundy car is Jerry's book belongs to me.

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Ah! That's right Jeff. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Did Dale Ellicott own the car before you?

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His name is actually Dale Elliott, there was a misprint in the book. Dale sold the car to Roland C. who owned it for 3 or more years and never titled it in his name and then I bought it. Dale lives 60 miles from me and told me the interesting story when he bought the car in 1972 from his best friend. Dale tried to buy the car new at Thomas Chevrolet, but his father would not let him, he recalls 2 JL8 cars in the showroom at the time. Dale's friend bought the car and Dale ordered a new 70 Chevelle SS and eventually left his friend drive the Chevelle and he fell in love with the Chevelle so Dale traded his Chevelle and $200 for the Z/28 in 1972. Car still shows 29k original miles.

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Cool!

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Do you remember a 68 red L78 nova thar was sold new from Mills.We have the car out here, but can't find the original owner. We've even talked to old Stealy over there, and he said the records are all gone.

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Yes the records are gone. I remember the day that the office girls dumped the records in the dumpster in August of 1976. Here's why I remember that day. Ken Scheiss and I were salesmen there and we were walking across the lot on a very windy day. We were out checking the inventory when suddenly a piece of paper blew to Ken and wrapped itself around his foot. Here's where everybody is going to call me a liar, But we have witnesses. He reaches down to pick it up and low and behold it was an invoice billed to him for a 71 vega that HE bought new!!!! We walked over to the dumpster and saw dozens of cardboard file boxes in there. The girls got mad at us for not helping them but we were still in shock. That incident was the talk of many a sales meeting after that. We always tried to figure out if it had some strange preminition. This is the honest truth or my name isn't Dan the Chevyman.

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We'll take your word for it Dan!!!!

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Thank you!

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I've seen you camaro over at the QCCA expo center car show, and I think we talked about it there. No doubt that it is what it is.
Did you ever see the Yenko deuce that went through Ericksen's, or the 68 Yenko that went through Mills? I've always been puzzled why there were apparently no COPO cars sold from any Quad cities dealerships. Mills, and Ericksens were plugged in well enough that they had to know they were out there. And they knew what Fred Gibb had in LaHarpe.Stealy told us that they had a 68 Gibb car go through there real quick after the owner may have gotten into some trouble on he Ia. side. Though it went out around Kewanee. He couldn't recall this red nova we have here, but he said that was a long time ago, and I know a lot of hipo cars went through Mills.

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Man you were up late last night! No I do not recall any of those supercars. I got married and drafted in '69, and it's like my interest got diverted for years when it comes to cars. I would love to go back for just one day! I started selling at Mills in Feb. '74 and the management seemed so old. They never told me any stories of the 60s. Terry Seams is still there, started in '68 I think. That's unheard of in the car business. George McClain was the General Manager and he told me stories about Bob Eriksen and He drag racing the '57 demostrators. Bob Eriksen got fired from there and went to Milan, IL. and bought out Ralph Palmer Chev.

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Wow this forum has been dead lately. Well Darren how about an update on the colors of Zs, other wise I'm going to start telling stories again!

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Start already! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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OK you asked! Well it's Saturday morning Nov. 9, 1968 and I had a major problem on my hands. No, I didn't have to work, no my girl friend wasn't late, and no I didn't loose my Beach Boy Albums. The night before I drove over three hundred miles and couldn't wind it past 5500RPM. This was disgraceful and embarassing! After all I had been reading all the magazines about the testing that they had been doing and constantly they talked about 7500-8500RPM. The talk of the day was about the mouse that roars! 800cfm holleys, 2.02 valves, 11 to 1 compression, solid lifter 30/30 cam, and all the rest. Did I own the only 302 pony car in the nation that peaks out at 5500 ? Man I was wreck trying to figure this out. It was pouring rain without any let up, but I was determined to come up with a solution. At wits end I decided it was time to go visit Lee Parks owner of Chevron Speed Shop across the river in Davenport, Ia. When I arrived it was still pouring rain. I went in and explained my major malfunction to Lee and he began to quiz me with all of the usual potential problems. Finally he says let's try something, Chevyman. He suggests that I go out, not him, get the distributor and bring it in. Well after driving clunks for couple of years, I always carried tools with me. Still pouring rain I grab my 9/16 box end that I still have with my other keepsakes for the car, and remove the distributor. I handed it to Lee and he sticks it in his Sun machine. Soon he has it spinning and he asks "did you say it is done at 5500RPM?" Yep. He comes back with "delco points have a very weak spring and what you have is point float." So he sticks in some Mallory Points and heavier weights and lighter advance springs and suggests that I go give it a whirl. Back out in the rain I go. I throw the distributor in the hole, time it close enough by ear, tighten in down, and jump behind the wheel. I was soaked but I had plenty of napkins from Debs Drive Inn from the night before, so I started towelling off. Now it was time for the show. I backed out of the lot onto the street while still coasting backward just ever so slightly, I jammed the Hurst forward into first and dumped the clutch. It roared with tremendous power, I hit all four gears at 7500RPM and only traveled 20 feet. I hit the binders, backed up 15 feet, drove back into the lot, and went in to ask Lee how much do I owe? "That will be $10.00 please." I left the building with a wide grin.

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Hey Chevyman,
Yes,More stories please.

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Great story! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Good stuff Dan!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Lee was a pretty cool guy. That place used to be a mad house.The Doug Thorely headers, and super muffs I ran on my deuce came from there. Arnie Beswick used to bring in uncut aluminum heads and have them cut the way he wanted there.
And I think that distributor machine is still down at Ronnie William's, Auto Ron's yet. I think Ronnie bought it from Chevron when they closed.

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Yes, I heard that Ronnie got some of the stuff from Lee. I have no clue what ever happened to Lee Parks. Do you know anything? By the way after almost 40 years since that day in the rain, I'm still wearing that wide grin. If interested go to guruofrelationships.com Every time I drive the Z it's hard to keep my foot out of it! There is just nothing like 7500 and a big ole holley!

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Wow - Cool story - tell me more! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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I like your plate. The first time that I went to a car show with my new plate, IBOTNEW, a lady comes up to me and said "That's not how you spell Bought!"
I just figured that she was kidding until she continued do stare at me waiting on a response. I finally told her she was right and I went back and sat down in my lawn chair.

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I like your plate. The first time that I went to a car show with my new plate, IBOTNEW, a lady comes up to me and said "That's not how you spell Bought!"
I just figured that she was kidding until she continued do stare at me waiting on a response. I finally told her she was right and I went back and sat down in my lawn chair.

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I've run into a few people like that...LOL https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Yes over the years I've run into some real dandys. Like the lamos (is that a word) than demanded that I come clean on the stripes. Or the know it all that continues to ask what engine is in the car after I just told them it's a bone stock Z/28. Why didn't you keep the black grill in the car? Why did you add bumper guards on the rear but not the front? Why would you go to all of the trouble of installing a Hurst and not put in the Competition Plus? Or the best one is "What did you do with the bubble hood?" or "I know for a fact that all '69 Zs came with spoilers!" I tell those guys, you know, you're absolutely right, and walk away. I'm really a nice guy so don't judge me until we meet in Chicago.

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Yep...when I first started to go to cars shows here in AZ...I met up with a guy who knew EVERYTHING about 66 Chevelles...of course he was driving a mid 80's Dodge Caravan...LOL https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

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Hey Dan,
Check your P.M.
Thanks
Mike

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I like your plate. The first time that I went to a car show with my new plate, IBOTNEW, a lady comes up to me and said "That's not how you spell Bought!"
I just figured that she was kidding until she continued do stare at me waiting on a response. I finally told her she was right and I went back and sat down in my lawn chair.

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I had a similar incident when I first put on the license plate 2-RARE. I had some Beevis walk up and ask me what a Two-Rari is?

I told him it was half of a Ferrari and walked away. I think the guy is still standing there in that field scratching his head. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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Guys I'm still looking for:

Cortez Silver
Glacier Blue
and the "needle in the haystack" Champange.

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Geez I kinda thought the Glacier Blue might be tough (although I love the color) but Cortez Silver? Wasn't that a popular color on Zs? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif Maybe someone will pop up with a Silver/Red gut/Red stripe version! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

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How does one go about finding these cars? Is there a list of local Camaro Clubs across America that we could contact and ask if the needed cars are there? Is there a national registry? I don't have a clue but I would be willing to help.

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Is it story time yet?

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Yes it is Dan.