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HEY CAN ANY TELL ME WHAT THE 1969 BLACK BOSS 428 SOLD FOR . I AM NOT A TRADER I JUST LOVE THE BLACK 429'S BOSS I THINK THEY ARE SINSTER LOOKING MUSCLE CAR AS ANY.
THANKS
LES

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Was there one at Russo? Or are you thinking about the preview of the upcoming Mecum auction.

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I believe the magic mirror tag was also export required as well, so if it was an export camaro, you would also see this. Export did not need to qualify for emissions as i understand.

Maybe the ones you parted out that had the magic mirror tag were the some of the remaining missing 4 ??


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I was helping Tom do research on this car when he bought it the 2nd time.
We thought it had something to do with Yenko because of the 140 speedo.

Some info on the 1968 Yenko Camaros and some ads were found in files that came from Don’s office. This is where I found a small end-of-year sale ad with the hi po Camaros for sale.

Two 427 Super Camaros, One Rally Green and Five Corvette Bronze 396 375hp hi po Camaros with 140 speedo, special front suspension, spoilers, wide ovals, etc.

We think that either Kenny Ross Chevrolet bought some from Yenko or did some type of dealer trade.

On the magic mirror tags.
I don’t think they are export tags.
Found some pictures of Camaro export tags but not like the magic mirror tags.

Did find some early Chevy tags that look the same as the magic mirror tag blanks.
The info is stamped different but the blank’s stampings appear similar if not the same.

On the emissions law theory.
I would say it’s not correct because Don had the 1968 427 Super Camaros emission certified.
The Yenko paperwork said it has “US Gov approved smog control” and one ad said it was the only 1968 427 Camaros to have it.

The standard 1968 Camaro trim tag blank has a statement about meeting Federal Safety laws not emissions.

I thought that maybe they did not use the standard 1968 Camaro trim tag blank because the 140 speedo may void the Federal Safety claim but not sure.
I didn’t find any Yenko info about it so it’s another theory.

top tag is 1962 bot tag is 68 Yenko

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the standard 1968 Camaro trim tag

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Joe
Thanks for your input. It is amazing how much is not known about these cars. With a company the size of GM the fact that this kind of stuff slipped out shows you that a few performance minded people really worked hard to get these kind of cars made. If the export tags are different then it makes the 68's even more unique. I posted on the Camaro site a long time ago that the 68's had special trimtags and I got slammed because they came back saying that the tags were nothing more than export tags. Does anyone have a pic of an export 68 tag? Thanks again I appreciate all the info I get from this site. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Joe, thanks for the post. I know I'm not going crazy thinking these things myself.....On the 140 speedo, I don't believe it would make a difference. I don't think the Police specials with calibrated speedos and for that matter the 69 9737's would use a different tag for that reason. Chryslers used the 150mph in there cars....Federal law,doubtful.... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif


Steve

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..... Some info on the 1968 Yenko Camaros and some ads were found in files that came from Don’s office. This is where I found a small end-of-year sale ad with the hi po Camaros for sale.

Two 427 Super Camaros, One Rally Green and Five Corvette Bronze 396 375hp hi po Camaros with 140 speedo, special front suspension, spoilers, wide ovals, etc.

We think that either Kenny Ross Chevrolet bought some from Yenko or did some type of dealer trade.


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So, this ad is what documents Tom's car, and other '68 COPOs, as Yenkos? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Yenko would have been the only source for that copo option in 68, right? So if you can link the parts to the car...
I think it would be easier to validate a converted 68 though. JMO

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NICB would show if the car went to Yenko.

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Some 68 Firebirds had 160mph speedo so I guess it was not a safety problem

As far as I know only Yenko's have turned up with 1968 COPO 9737 but I guess you never know.

The ad just documents that Yenko had six 396 375hp Camaros for sale late in the year, with 140 speedo and other special hi po stuff. The ad also had the color listed.

The next step was to get NICB but not sure if Tom ever got it.

He did have the original 396 with MV code that is also only known to have gone to Yenko

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Yenko would have been the only source for that copo option in 68, right? So if you can link the parts to the car...

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Who knows? For a time is was thought that Fred Gibb was the only one to get ZL-1s, and according to Dale Berger, they received a '68 L-78 Auto Nova, same as the Gibb 50. When cornered, Chevrolet had to allow dealers to order the same as the others. Case in point, in 1969, Don Yenko wanted an exclusive to the COPO, but word filtered out to other dealers.

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Another case in point, the two copo Novas that went to Canada! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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Not all the 68 Yenkos had the COPO 9737. Thats been also proven. The YS8002 car that was the demo car did not have any of the COPO parts mentioned including the special tag. That car is the single most photographed car by Yenko in 68. It was the prototype the rest were built after. We are restoring this car and I will post some of its unique features in the SCW forum soon..BKH

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HEY CAN ANY TELL ME WHAT THE 1969 BLACK BOSS 428 SOLD FOR . I AM NOT A TRADER I JUST LOVE THE BLACK 429'S BOSS I THINK THEY ARE SINSTER LOOKING MUSCLE CAR AS ANY.
THANKS
LES

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I thought I saw a low mile black 428 cobra jet 69 Mach I sell for 91k I believe...it had original paint,etc....I dont know about a Boss car?

Also ,did them 2 ZL-1's in the pics get auctioned off??? How much?

Thanks

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I can see it now on Ebay. 1968 Copo 9737 Camaro. The only one NOT delivered to Yenko. 140mph speedo, 6 cyl. vin. Starting bid 100k. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

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6 cyl. vin???

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It was an Ebay joke, my writers are on strike.

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It was an Ebay joke, my writers are on strike.

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Joe, did you ever get a good picture of the ad you mention from the yenko dealership on the 6 cars? You sent me a picture a while back taken from a camera and it was hard to read when you blow it up.

Id sure like to have a better picture if its available?

Considering the timing of the cars in the ad, we assumed my Rallye Green car is the one mentioned as its a late 68 car like Toms. I have also discussed with all the owners on my car (all PA guys) and the orig owner confirmed that my car was bought new from Yenko Chevy.

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One more item, my protecto plate documents these came in with the MV motor as well. What im not sure of is - when the car was converted, was the protecto plate change to indicate the 427 motor? Does anyone have a copy of a 68 yenko protecto plate?

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Apparently Kevin Suydam has documents pertaining to the smog certification of the 68 427 cars. Has anyone seen or does anyone have copies of the certs?

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One more item, my protecto plate documents these came in with the MV motor as well. What im not sure of is - when the car was converted, was the protecto plate change to indicate the 427 motor? Does anyone have a copy of a 68 yenko protecto plate?

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Did you even get a protecto plate from Yenko (in 68) after it was converted? This was now a Yenko Sportscar.....


Steve

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I still go back to the 59-64 Chevrolet tags...In the CBTN book it states that this tag was also used till 66 in Chevrolets produced in a BOP plant..( I'm not sure what that means exactly...but I think it is relevent) These bodys were marked for a reason. How many orders did Don make in 68? I'm thinking a batch order again. Why would Fisher need this tag? The 140 speedo? Wrong. They didn't install it, Chevrolet did. So, Don orders the cars...body numbers assigned at Fisher..sent thru to Chevrolet..They have to assemble the 140 speedo in a sea of 120's.....along with the 9737 stuff. This batch was run and tagged together to identify a "difference"...Has anyone seen a 68 Yenko Broadcast sheet? Was the tag used to identify the necessary items needed by Chevrolet? The ACC on the tag leads me to belive it. They used some form of it on the 67 tags for accessory codes. Why not use it again for variations on the 68 stuff? Hence the Magic Mirror tag with ACC.. Does anyone have body numbers for the 68 Yenkos? The 07E cars seem to all be pretty close.... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Fwiw..this is all just a theroy... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif


Steve

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I still go back to the 59-64 Chevrolet tags...In the CBTN book it states that this tag was also used till 66 in Chevrolets produced in a BOP plant..( I'm not sure what that means exactly...but I think it is relevent) Steve

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BOP is Buick, Olds and Pontiac...

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Yep....Makes no sense to me either... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif


Steve

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Apparently Kevin Suydam has documents pertaining to the smog certification of the 68 427 cars. Has anyone seen or does anyone have copies of the certs?

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yes I have seen it and it's a large file

also have at least 2 different 1968 Yenko ads that state it has US Gov smog certification

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Apparently Kevin Suydam has documents pertaining to the smog certification of the 68 427 cars. Has anyone seen or does anyone have copies of the certs?

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Didn't that certification actually list the MV coded motor, and not the 427 conversion? I think that discussion was trying to determine if the MV motor was a factory installed 427 but it appears to be the COPO 396/375 motor.

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So did they sell the blue and yellow ZL-1's?? If not, didn't I here they are being auctioned off soon?

Thanks...

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Action on the floor...


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I just found out that this Baldwin '69 was purchased by a friend. It should be here within the week. I saw the build CD, pretty wicked car. Understand it cost $400K to build and he picked it up in the mid $100's.

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The Blue RS and Yellow ZL1's will be at the May Mecum Auction..