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I'll bet that car smelled to the high heavens when they opened the vault up...

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Yes that is the same car I knew after seeing the water up to the trunk and the water marks on the cement that the car was toast. What I thought they were going to do is pull a switch with another car that did not look as bad Well at least Boyd will not be messing with it Did you see him throw up his hands when they opened the hood If only they put the car in a big steel drum and weld it shut It would have been ok.
WHAT A WASTE

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Well, it seems the people of Tulsa are into Mopar and stashing cars in sealed vaults often.......check this out:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/conte...1_A8_hOffi67475

Seems they thought this one out a bit more. I'll bet that this one comes out in much better shape and with that new car smell still fresh. Maybe I'll be there when they open this one up in '48.....one thing is for certain Boyd won't.


Anyone know if Tulsa has anymore cars stashed away?

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Brilliant they left the battery connected for the 50 years, a good indicator of all the clear thinking and research they did to entomb this car correctly in 1957. This has been good entertainment and I still would take seeing this rusted hulk over spending time with Boide.

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They forgot what every plumber knows. Water and other stuff flows down hill. Stupid is as stupid does. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

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Did you notice how many COPS are around this car !!
You would think they were opening up an Armor Car.

Whats up with that ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

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They forgot what every plumber knows. Water and other stuff flows down hill. Stupid is as stupid does. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

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Perhaps choosing somewhere other than under an overwatered lawn at the county courthouse might have helped.
At least they had the foresight to protect the most important part

"A sealed steel capsule buried with the car, however, opened to reveal a pristine 48-star American Flag"
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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You would think they were opening up an Armor Car.

[/ QUOTE ] Im betting a few cant make the required 6 minute mile run either https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Did you notice how many COPS are around this car !!
You would think they were opening up an Armor Car.

Whats up with that ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

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they must've misunderstood when somebody said that the car could do donuts. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

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Here are some clearer pics.
http://buriedcar.com/all_galleries/time/

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This Car and event seems ridiculous to me. I can imagine the spirit and fantasy of opening the Vault (Tomb) was better dreamed about than executed, I know obvious observation on my part. I just believe that we have witnessed many better preserved ‘SURVIOVORS’ thru this web site and others. Thru the ages (automotive) many have cared for these cars whether they; were Museums or individuals.

My version would be Date line 1970,,,un sold Yenkos gather in Field (Storage Lot) behind dealership,,,Atomic black berry bushes cover 12 cars to be found when gas powered Weed Eater is invented,,,,Ha ha

Jim

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i see absolutely no reason to critique anything that has taken place here. there really isnt any reason to mock the people who built the capsule. myself and my buddys couldnt of done any better today. i highly doubt anyone who tombed the car sat there and critiqued the design. if they had you would of read about it before everyone and there brother heard about this nationally a decade or so ago. i think people tried there best and there is no reason to point and laugh. just my opinion.

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Well you have a point... In a way as an investment- the car paid off quite well for the city as over 7000 tickets were sold for the unveling alone, so the $$ value return to Tulsa was huge on this hulk.

I cannot help however in thinking that the idea of burying the car the way they did was somewhat of a joke on us here (in this time) as the construction of underground facilities was quite well known especially after the second world war and even later in the late '50's where the "fall-out shelter" was then the "must have" item for your home.

IMO They clearly knew what they wanted to survive (the time capsule) and took steps to insure the contents did.

What remained for publicity (the car) was essentially two things: A short term boost for the local Plymouth Dealer back in 1957 and what turned out to be a long term promotional product test of grease, bags, plastic and a mylar coating film in an environment that they knew at best would have been very damp - and likely flooded for the better part of 50 years.

I feel bad for all the folks who actually believed that the bag was going to hold and the car was going to reappear looking like it went in. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

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Did you notice how many COPS are around this car !!
You would think they were opening up an Armor Car.

Whats up with that ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

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Duncan Doughnuts was in between batches !

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Ok, I hate to add fuel to the fire here, BUT, I smell a BIG rat!!

There is no way a Mopar would survive with that little rust. I think they swapped out the car with a much nicer example. Must have been Boyd!! They might have you guys fooled but I ain't buying it. I want to see the REAL time capsule car! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Colin

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They're still draining it out of the crypt. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

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... I want to see the REAL time capsule car! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Colin

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I think Coddington is the real time capsule! WTH was he
doing in middle of that situation anyway? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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Ok, I hate to add fuel to the fire here, BUT, I smell a BIG rat!!

There is no way a Mopar would survive with that little rust. I think they swapped out the car with a much nicer example. Must have been Boyd!! They might have you guys fooled but I ain't buying it. I want to see the REAL time capsule car! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Colin

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Colin I was thinking the same thing, I am no Metallurgist but you would think that sheet metal would have looked like a piece of rotten pine with a billion hungry termites eating at it for 50 years. Maybe the lack of Oxygen in the tomb saved the car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif The way it looks a dip in the Redi-Strip tank and the car will be very restorable. I have fixed MUCH Worse. These old Mopar’s rotted so badly that if it wasn’t stored in a garage in Arizona they were doomed.

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Lack of oxygen may be the key here........

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Lack of oxygen may be the key here........

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During the planning stages for entombment...or for the 50 years it sat in the water? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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wonder how long after it was buried that the water filled the tomb?

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Ok, I hate to add fuel to the fire here, BUT, I smell a BIG rat!!

There is no way a Mopar would survive with that little rust. I think they swapped out the car with a much nicer example. Must have been Boyd!! They might have you guys fooled but I ain't buying it. I want to see the REAL time capsule car! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Colin

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Colin I was thinking the same thing, I am no Metallurgist but you would think that sheet metal would have looked like a piece of rotten pine with a billion hungry termites eating at it for 50 years. Maybe the lack of Oxygen in the tomb saved the car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif The way it looks a dip in the Redi-Strip tank and the car will be very restorable. I have fixed MUCH Worse. These old Mopar’s rotted so badly that if it wasn’t stored in a garage in Arizona they were doomed.

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Eureka!!! Instead of filling the tomb in with dirt they could fill it with Safest Rust Remover (a product that reacts well with water) put the car back in - cap it off, and dig it up again-- oh in say a year or so, then with a donor car (maby two) we could get it restored. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif

Lets get crackin!! http://www.safestrustremover.com/

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hey guys, the titanic has made it this far! that Mopar could outlast the titanic anyday!!

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Just My 2 cents, why are all you folks so full of Your selfs You can't ever find Any Positive in anything. I really feel sorry for those around you and its ashame to always look at the glass as Half Empty. Hindsight is 20-20. I'll just bet you Negativers are Just Perfect have 2 1/2 kids, the perfect life , the dog and a Green lawn. Not a Chance wake up smell the coffee and get a REAL life. Stop downing everybody and everything , I watched one of You guys mouthoff at a local cruise night beating up a guys car not knowing he was standing there. OOps when He flatened You and Knocked out 2 teeth and guess what You deserved it. What goes around comes arround !!! Lifes too short to Be Negative there's Always a Positive in everything!!!!! a Fact is a Fact !!!!

Jim

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Jim,

You are right. There was a positive. Some politicians in Tulsa on a Comittee made lots of money this past weekend.

I am not gonna be politically correct and call a turd a rose. The photos tell the story. A joke was played on all of us here and lots of folks in Tulsa are laughing it up all the way to the bank.

Why dont you review and pick on this Blog too... There are lots more like it: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ight=tulsarama

By comparison we are the good guys. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Can I wake up now? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

JIM, it's a discussion board, and it's called conversation... nobody is trying to make themselves look better than anyone else, it's just a divided topic! Don't read into it too much.

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And to add to what Marlin said...a lot of what was said here was said https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif "tongue in cheek"

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I was entertained by the event and didn't spend a penny. Just followed it online. It would have been neat if the car came out like brand new, but I think it was just as fun to follow it the way it turned out.
That's my 2 cents https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

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"a lot of what was said here was said "tongue in cheek" "


I tried that once. No one could understand what I said. (Plus, I bit my tongue.)https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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The point here is everyone putting down how the car was stored, making fun of the plastic bags and the fact it filled with water. Lets see the Year 1957 The Soviets beat US into space, every child knew what the Civil Defense air raid siren was, houses or farms had bomb shelters. The treat of Nuclear Holecaust loomed overhead,Ford out sold Chevrolet for the First time. This was a Very different time , Our parents acted differently, there was an unknown of the future. This time capsule was state of the art as people watched it on their Black and White tube TV (4 stations), the civil rights act was passed, forced integration started. Just because the car came out in worse shape than projected there is no reason to shout fraud. Did the town make money Yes . Did the town spend money Yes, did they recoupe what they spent on the original investment and all the activites involved with the celebration maybe, when You factor all the original costs and then the costs of everything involved with removing it,promoting the celebration.
Whats with Boyd ,he had an Auction very close to there and if You received one of his books the other auctions should take a look at a very well presented and described brochure thet wasn't free to have made. Can't we all just get along.

Jim

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I think I'm falling asleep again...... Good Night!

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The point here is everyone putting down how the car was stored, making fun of the plastic bags and the fact it filled with water. Lets see the Year 1957 The Soviets beat US into space, every child knew what the Civil Defense air raid siren was, houses or farms had bomb shelters. The treat of Nuclear Holecaust loomed overhead,Ford out sold Chevrolet for the First time. This was a Very different time , Our parents acted differently, there was an unknown of the future. This time capsule was state of the art as people watched it on their Black and White tube TV (4 stations), the civil rights act was passed, forced integration started. Just because the car came out in worse shape than projected there is no reason to shout fraud. Did the town make money Yes . Did the town spend money Yes, did they recoupe what they spent on the original investment and all the activites involved with the celebration maybe, when You factor all the original costs and then the costs of everything involved with removing it,promoting the celebration.
Whats with Boyd ,he had an Auction very close to there and if You received one of his books the other auctions should take a look at a very well presented and described brochure thet wasn't free to have made. Can't we all just get along.

Jim

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Too bad 1957 Tulsa did not hire one of the hundreds of Civil Engineers who had experience in bunker and tunnel building from WWII prior to the construction of this simple underground vault.

A really inexpensive drainage system may have made all the differance.

Really Jim...We are the nice guys. Fair and Balanced https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Second guessing and hindsight is always very easy...I'll bet that plastic was the leatest greatest new gadget and they all thought it would be impervious. For added protection they even put it in a concrete bunker.... Just didn't work out.

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I see this as man,trying to protect mans creation from mankind,only to be blindsided by Mother Nature...man. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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Looking at a Google earth map of Tulsa and I see that big Arkansas river runninh within blocks of the downtown. then I did a google search of "Tulsa Floods". The outcome of this car was predictable. Tulsa had major flooding through the 60's 70's and 80's. That thing never had a chance. It probably got wet before the 60's and has been wet since.
Saw some of the still photos and there is a piece of leaf spring being held by a police officer.

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just a hypothetical here. what would you estimate this car would cross the block for at Barret if this car if it came out of its tomb in near perfect condition?

my guess between 400K-500K

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Here is a link to the best story I have read yet about the digging up of this car. There are a couple links to what may be the best photos of the car. It's a long read but well worth it.
James

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/fo...=7&start=1

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I see this as man,trying to protect mans creation from mankind,only to be blindsided by Mother Nature...man. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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That four ( 4 ) mans in one sentence! We're not fair and balanced, are we https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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I see this as man,trying to protect mans creation from mankind,only to be blindsided by Mother Nature...man. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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That four ( 4 ) mans in one sentence! We're not fair and balanced, are we https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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Okay, how about: "That Mother Nature, she can be a real b*tch!"

(Sorry ladies, I couldn't resist.)

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James,

Thanks for posting that link to Brian Cooper's Tulsarama saga. It is for sure a great read if you have the time. Talk about passionate about their cars! Planning for something for 15 years to the extent of buying and restoring trucks and a trailer, etc. for the one event? Man!
BTW, there is a 'L'il Red Wagon' on the southbound side of 395 leaving Bishop, CA, heading for Nevada. It has been sitting there, outside, (all faded, now), since 1984, which is when I first spotted it. I don't believe it has moved. I don't know why he had to clone that specific truck, but I bet Brian could have picked this real one up cheap... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

JB