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big gear head 02-19-2024 06:04 PM

Weren't there only about 6 of the L79 cars built in '67? Or is that one of those rumors that's been floating around for years?

clnovaparts 02-19-2024 06:16 PM

The engine assembly is from a 66. Car is a real 4 speed and built in June when they were released.

67since67 02-19-2024 06:35 PM

From my very limited Nova knowledge...

The 6 L79 Nova's built late in the '67 model year used a cast iron intake and Quadrajet carb, also script valve covers, unlike the engine in this Nova.

Hotrodbob 02-19-2024 06:58 PM

I agree
 
My knowledge is limited too. I did read that 6-L79 engines from 1966 were found in the assembly plant, complete with the same Winters intake and Holley this car has, and were installed into Chevy II’s in 1967? Dunno? It’s gonna be fun to drive…

Big Block Bill 02-19-2024 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodbob (Post 1644254)
This is a barnfind I recently came across. Blue L79 4-speed car..
Yes, off f/b outa Burbank.

Congratulations, That is AWESOME! It should have a ZA coded engine, but with it being a California A.I.R car, it would be another Z. code I presume. A friend of mine had a 1967 Nova Wagon with a factory 283 2BBL / Muncie 4 speed in the same colors back in 1977. Bill

clnovaparts 02-19-2024 07:44 PM

Engine transplanted from 1966 L79 Nova. Very few muncie's installed in 67 Nova's. Most likely muncie is from the same 66 L79 Nova also

Jamess113 02-19-2024 08:25 PM

We own a 66 a L79 with K19. Are you willing to share the the engine stamping ?

clnovaparts 02-19-2024 08:26 PM

Post the engine stamp if you will

Hotrodbob 02-19-2024 09:58 PM

Your help is priceless thank you!
 
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Here is a photo of engine stamp and some additional ones..
Holley is 3807 list, 3418 carb with a Winters intake and lots of gas station and maintenance receipts.
I’m still unclear about the E2L code on the cowl tag though. What’s the “2” in there for??

67ssmn 02-19-2024 10:09 PM

i have personally seen a 327-275, 4 speed wagon, and get this it was at a pick a part yard in CA, probably in 1983??, all i had time for was the ac brackets, went back next day and the car was bare, and i mean bare shell

66BoxNova 02-19-2024 10:23 PM

E= A01 Tinted Glass All
2 ( not sure )
L = 4 speed trans

Jamess113 02-19-2024 11:08 PM

ZH Suffix is A.I.R. (Smog) with C.A.C. A/C

Jamess113 02-19-2024 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 66BoxNova (Post 1644297)
E= A01 Tinted Glass All
2 ( not sure )
L = 4 speed trans

The 2 = Group 2 Options L (4spd) is in the group 2 section

1967Z28 02-19-2024 11:43 PM

For a '67 "performance" Chevrolet engine there should be a partial VIN on the pad, to my understanding.

vette5762 02-19-2024 11:51 PM

L79 Wagon
 
10 01 Pad Stamp ? 06D Trim Tag ?

DougA 02-19-2024 11:52 PM

Have a good friend who ordered a 68 Chevelle wagon new with a L-79, 4 speed. Car rusted away, but he still has the engine in a 62 Corvette now.

Steve Shauger 02-20-2024 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vette5762 (Post 1644309)
10 01 Pad Stamp ? 06D Trim Tag ?

That what I was wondering...

67since67 02-20-2024 04:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodbob (Post 1644294)
Holley is 3807 list, 3418 carb with a Winters intake

3807 is a '67 Chevelle L79 with K19 smog, 3418 is a Corvette 427 (dual inlet). One or the other??

Attached are pix of one of two '67 L79 Nova's discussed on this site in 2018, both with script valve covers, cast intakes and Q-Jet carbs.

The casting date from the block could settle this. I agree with cinovaparts that this is likely a '66 engine transplanted from a '66 loong ago. My .02.

Whatever the story, this is a really cool Nova!! - Bill W

WILMASBOYL78 02-20-2024 10:48 AM

L79 Nova...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 67since67 (Post 1644321)
3807 is a '67 Chevelle L79 with K19 smog, 3418 is a Corvette 427 (dual inlet). One or the other??

Attached are pix of one of two '67 L79 Nova's discussed on this site in 2018, both with script valve covers, cast intakes and Q-Jet carbs.

The casting date from the block could settle this. I agree with cinovaparts that this is likely a '66 engine transplanted from a '66 loong ago. My .02.

Whatever the story, this is a really cool Nova!! - Bill W

I was at that Nova Nats in Belterra...met Dan and saw this 67 car prior to the resto that Wayne Bushey completed. Very cool car with the QJ setup...and of course the blue one that Jack restored was the bomb.

-wilma

dykstra 02-20-2024 02:13 PM

Way cool wagon!!

Hotrodpaul 02-29-2024 08:02 PM

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Here is a good example of a 66 L-79 block Chevy II....vin numbers individually stamped, just like the one I had back in the 80's.

PeteLeathersac 03-01-2024 12:09 AM

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Original ‘66 L79 stampings are interesting, Member clnovaparts shared the below curved example a couple years ago back in this linked thread w/ more Genuine L79 stampings, click here…
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=170918
:beers:
~ Pete

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jeffschevelle 03-01-2024 10:41 PM

Perhaps someone wanted an L79 wagon, was told he couldn't order one, so ordered an L30 327/275 4-speed wagon, along with getting the dealer to order a complete crate Nova L79, and then had it installed by the dealer?? If a service unit were ordered at that point then it probably would have been a 66 engine assembly.

Hard to imagine someone would transplant the engine from a 66 car years later WITH all the smog stuff still intact, along with the big radiator too. And the coincidence that the recipient wagon just happened to already be a factory 4-speed (probably ultra rare in and of itself)??

Seems like there has to be more to the story than just a typical 1970's engine transplant.

On the other hand, having the air conditioning code seems odd -- unless all complete warranty Nova L79 engine assemblies were built as that version, so that they could be used as warranty replacement units on both cars with or without A/C. That was common in service replacement parts to just offer the version of a part that would fit with all other equipment combos.

Either way, very very cool wagon!! I'd gently clean, get it reliable and roadworthy, and drive the snot out of it!!!

GMC_Typhoon 03-01-2024 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffschevelle (Post 1645299)
Perhaps someone wanted an L79 wagon, was told he couldn't order one, so ordered an L30 327/275 4-speed wagon, along with getting the dealer to order a complete crate Nova L79, and then had it installed by the dealer?? If a service unit were ordered at that point then it probably would have been a 66 engine assembly.

Hard to imagine someone would transplant the engine from a 66 car years later WITH all the smog stuff still intact, along with the big radiator too. And the coincidence that the recipient wagon just happened to already be a factory 4-speed (probably ultra rare in and of itself)??

Seems like there has to be more to the story than just a typical 1970's engine transplant.

On the other hand, having the air conditioning code seems odd -- unless all complete warranty Nova L79 engine assemblies were built as that version, so that they could be used as warranty replacement units on both cars with or without A/C. That was common in service replacement parts to just offer the version of a part that would fit with all other equipment combos.

Either way, very very cool wagon!! I'd gently clean, get it reliable and roadworthy, and drive the snot out of it!!!

I'm not an old guy,but whenever I here that manual transmissions in old cars were "rare" I chuckle. They were standard equipment. Automatic were more rare IMO.

clnovaparts 03-01-2024 11:54 PM

Wagon started out as 327 275hp, saginaw 4spd , AC, A.I.R.. The big tank radiator is most likely original to the car so equipped. Not keen on the engine stamp. Nice wagon project with parts added and deleted.

jeffschevelle 03-02-2024 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMC_Typhoon (Post 1645306)
I'm not an old guy,but whenever I here that manual transmissions in old cars were "rare" I chuckle. They were standard equipment. Automatic were more rare IMO.

I didn't say a manual transmission was rare. 3-on-the-trees were a dime a dozen, especially in the lower cost Novas. My point was that a 4-SPEED in a NOVA STATION WAGON has to be extremely rare.

jeffschevelle 03-02-2024 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clnovaparts (Post 1645307)
Wagon started out as 327 275hp, saginaw 4spd , AC, A.I.R.. The big tank radiator is most likely original to the car so equipped. Not keen on the engine stamp. Nice wagon project with parts added and deleted.

I didn't study the pics that closely, but what indicates this wagon came with AC when new? I know the Novas were under the dash but did they not have any AC code on the trim tag? Asking to learn -- I know Chevelle tags, but not Chevy II's !

JayR 03-02-2024 06:00 PM

For whatever reason, a/c is seldom noted on the cowl tag of a 1st or 2nd generation Chevy II. On 2nd gens, a factory a/c car will have a vertical fan switch on the heater control panel. Also, a round hole and grommet near the top of the firewall to carry associated a/c wiring. etc. into the engine compartment. This wagon has both.

The sequence of the various dates on this wagon are all over the place. The block cast date is January 7, 1966, engine assembly date on the pad October 1, 1966 and the car
was built the last week of June, 1967. All the known and documented 1967 L79 Chevy IIs were built in May and June, 1967 with engines assembled in those same months. On this wagon, the assembly date/suffix code stamping is smack in the middle of the pad, which is unusual. As mentioned several times in this thread, all U.S. built L79 Chevy IIs had a partial VIN on the pad. This one does not. All the evidence would appear to lean
towards this not being the original engine in this wagon.

L79 Chevy IIs and Acadians built in Canada had the same Flint built engines as U.S. cars, but Oshawa did not stamp them with partial VINs.

Bob


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