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Born30YrsLate 03-19-2004 04:14 AM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
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Rob,
I'm kinda slow so it took me a minute to figure out what the heck you were talking about.....somebody should smack me upside the head with a shovel now and then.....I just figured out we are talking about burying a car!
Motown https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

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WHAT...it's not "bruying"...I just thought that's how they talk in Missouri???.... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Belair62 03-19-2004 04:25 AM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
It's Missoura

MotownMadman 03-19-2004 06:50 PM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
Well, the word I got is that this Nova WAS the Gibb race car prepared by Harrell with a 427, and that Ed did buy it.
Motown

Belair62 03-19-2004 07:04 PM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
Sweet find !!! But how in the world can it already be the racecar prepared by Harrell ? Is there anything to document that ? Is this information available about the Harrell cars ?

Kim_Howie 03-20-2004 12:11 AM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
Motown, I'm sure this car is not the race car. Kim https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

matt murphy 03-20-2004 07:14 AM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
Motown . . . the word from Helen is that the #4 Nova went to someone in OK.

matt murphy 03-20-2004 07:33 AM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
The Harrell prepped Race car . . . are you talking about the candy apple red car or the pink 1968, or what car ??

MotownMadman 03-20-2004 07:54 AM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
Kim, Matt, I dont know for Gospel, just going by info from a very solid reliable source that was part of this whole thing back then, as for it going to OK, if the lady says thats where it went then I would take that as Gospel, but we all know how things move around as years pass. Also might want to check out the other Wanna Be Board, some fellas over there are also rather certain of the history, I happen to know for sure Dan is a very knowledgeable guy, and despite a lack of personality another dedicated gear head over there has, he does have a vast amount of knowledge and connections, that combined with what you might call an inside source all seem to be on the same page. Does that make it fact? Heck no, but there has to be some substance to that opinion for so many people who use wrenches for silverware to feel that strongly about it. But, that is the beauty of this board, before this discussion is over I am sure we will all know the correct answer. As for the personal feelings of the other crew towards the buyer, on that I have to disagree totally, he was researching this stuff long before anyone thought about it or even cared. There has to be a benefit to all those years of work, the benefit being you know what the heck you are looking at before you buy. After spending twenty years doing research is he just supposed to give all that info away that he spent years putting together? I think not, that reminds me of the rich neighbor kid who came to my sandbox and thought he was going to take my new Tonka after I mowed lawns to get it, his reason was he didnt have it so it should automatically be his. And here's to the buyer if he makes money in the process, I didnt know the hobby had a group that was a non profit organization. I guess to understand the analogys here the misguided opinions of others have to be read, but hey, as we all have a right to buy, sell, or do whatever with our cars and money, others have a right to their opinions also, as I do. Congrats Ed, you sneaky dog you, I wonder how many other hounds were nipping at your heels to grab the same chunk of meat. Cant blame em for snarling and growling a bit for missing out on that choice cut...,................................... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

KNAPPY 03-20-2004 08:36 AM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
It's funny , When I first saw this car on e-bay I thought I would get some input about this car so I posted it on this forum. I thought I would have a chance to bid on it and maybe get a chance on buying a rare car. The truth is that there is a small group of very knowledgable people who will always get these cars. With knowledge is power. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Kurt S 03-20-2004 08:42 AM

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I didnt know the hobby had a group that was a non profit organization.

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I take exception to that. The CRG is a non-profit. A lot of work and time goes into the info on our site, all to the benefit of the hobby.

Jeff H 03-20-2004 08:53 AM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
Motown, I think you're reading the people on the other site wrong. Ed has charged everyone for all the information they ever asked him for and Dan gave Ed the owner to the original engine for his ZL1 and didn't try to charge him anything as a finders fee. Dan is one of the real supercar hobby heros. To Ed it's just a business as it has always been. Just ask how many people here have had a car bought out from under them because they tried to ask an "expert" for more information. I'm not in the market for a supercar, but I've been watching this happen time and time again and it really bothers me. If you're really in it for the hobby, help other people and don't put the screws to them!

MotownMadman 03-20-2004 04:17 PM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
Jeff, that very well may be as I have never even met Ed, I have talked with Dan and I do find him to be about the hobby first and the money second. I dont know enough about all of Ed's practices to make a personal defense on this issue, but I will defend the fact that a person should not be classified as Greedy because he took a lot of time to do his homework. As for what he charges and who he charges, that was not the issue or the point of the other conversation, the point was that Ed was being criticized for being the first to buy the car because he was the best informed to do so based on the wealth of information he has compiled over the years through his research. While I am sure some in the hobby had voluntairily produced documents for him that aided in his ability to make a quick decision, it is also true that those complaining because they didnt get the car due to the fact they didnt have access to the same info were not working side by side with Ed over the years putting together his files of information. Ed has made his years of work into a business, not just a hobby, and no one is being forced to use his services. Based on that line of thinking that it may be wrong to charge for his consultation, I guess that would also make it wrong for Joel Rosen to charge for his services also. I am quite sure Ed didnt compile his data overnight, it took time and dedication, so let those complaining spend the same amount of time compiling the same data themselves. It would seem to me that if he had enough foresight to compile this data over a long period of time that it certainly is his to do with as he chooses. All the years of work and research he put into gaining that info has givin him the ability to document the COPO cars, be it through old documentation or through general knowledge of what he has learned over the years. Nothing in life is free, if the late comers to the information game want to give away what they learned well my hats off to them as that is a noble thing to do, as well as their choice to do so, just as it is Ed's choice to get compensated for the time and effort he put in, which could have been spent in other ways, such as spending it with his family. The complainers here who didnt have the necessary information to make a snap decision on the car are just ruffled that they didnt get it first. Welcome to the hardships of any competitive business or hobby. He is known as one of the best informed in the business, so making a comparison if you take the top flight stock brokers and consultants, I am quite sure you wont find them providing their services or info based on years of dedicated education for free. For anyone who didnt get the car first from a lack of information, get over it and go do some hard research so maybe next time they will be better informed to make a quick judgment call. No matter who got the car, there no doubt would have been somone unhappy that they didnt get it and blaming it on someone else. Spend less time finger pointing and complaining and more time doing research and being on the hunt. IMO.
Motown https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

WILMASBOYL78 03-20-2004 05:18 PM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
I have a little trouble understanding some of these terms. Just exactly what does the "Wanna Be Board" refer to??

Tom Williams https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

sYc 03-20-2004 06:58 PM

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I didnt know the hobby had a group that was a non profit organization.

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I take exception to that. The CRG is a non-profit. A lot of work and time goes into the info on our site, all to the benefit of the hobby.

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The sYc is set up as a "not for profit" corporation as well.

Jeff Murphy 03-20-2004 07:12 PM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
We're the ones that profit from both the CRG and the sYc!!!!

Keep up the good works guys. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

sYc 03-20-2004 07:14 PM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
The facts do not back up the theory that this car is the Gibb race car.

1. The Gibb race car did not begin life turquoise in color.
2. The Gibb race was not #4, nor do the VINs match
3. The Gibb Novas were COPOs, with 50 ordered, this being the minimum number required to compete in the Super Stock class. Thus, running SS, which I believe the Gibb race car did, would have been running a 396.

restorer 03-20-2004 10:34 PM

Re: Dick Harrell Nova???
 
Tom, the "Wannabe site" would be "not available". Wes


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