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70 copo 02-22-2020 12:23 PM

This would not even be a topic without the impact of social media.

It is not the sale that gets people's emotions up, it is the grandstanding that does it after the sale, because in the end there will be someone (or several someones) who will likely feel that the grapes were "sour", and as soon as that conversation starts relationships fracture.

Sadly it happens over and over.

Zedder 02-22-2020 12:30 PM

This type of chatter is one of the reasons that I am glad that I don’t play with the higher end stuff anymore...anyone got a nice old lady 67 SS350 auto for sale ��

70 copo 02-22-2020 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zedder (Post 1484375)
This type of chatter is one of the reasons that I am glad that I don’t play with the higher end stuff anymore...anyone got a nice old lady 67 SS350 auto for sale ��

Yes it used to be considered rude to discuss what you paid for something because prior to social media in order to cross that social boundary you had to do it face to face.

The keyboard gives and takes. Often it takes - and that is sad.

Mr70 02-22-2020 01:09 PM

Chevmal are you Patrick Glenn Nichols who was once Cranberry70SSL34 on this site and hasn't been on here for nearly 2 years?

luzl78 02-22-2020 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zedder (Post 1484375)
This type of chatter is one of the reasons that I am glad that I don’t play with the higher end stuff anymore...anyone got a nice old lady 67 SS350 auto for sale ��

i think charley still does

cook_dw 02-22-2020 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MosportGreen66 (Post 1484372)
Like the real stamp 814 alternator that sold on FB Marketplace last night for $200? I don't need it but sure as heck offered to buy it just to keep it on the shelf for the 'who knows maybe one day' narrative... I have a pic of the listing too which I can edit in this evening.

Dan


Right there with you. If I’d only seen it sooner.. lol

chevmal 02-22-2020 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr70 (Post 1484378)
Chevmal are you Patrick Glenn Nichols who was once Cranberry70SSL34 on this site and hasn't been on here for nearly 2 years?

I am not Patrick Glenn Nichols, I know the buyer and the situation.

1967 4K 02-22-2020 06:39 PM

Come on guys let’s talk about our cars and enjoy our hobby. Stop this he said, she said, they said stuff.
Smoke the tires n bang the gears! Drive em.
1967 4K

the427king 02-22-2020 06:53 PM

Sounds a little creepy that a user would follow another around to the point hes making wild accusations that are false. No surprise considering who it is, just a little creepy.

hurstL78 02-22-2020 07:57 PM

I think one of the facts that have been overlooked in this thread is that a rare low mile super car has been discovered and brought to the surface. Just watch the video. The car is original. Now let’s add the fact that it’s a COPO with complete owner history from day one. That isn’t something that is seen very often these days. And it deserves being talked about.

dvss1 02-22-2020 09:47 PM

Cool car. Does anyone have a pic of the trim tag?

m22mike 02-22-2020 10:05 PM

It's in the video

EZ Nova 02-22-2020 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hurstL78 (Post 1484424)
I think one of the facts that have been overlooked in this thread is that a rare low mile super car has been discovered and brought to the surface. Just watch the video. The car is original. Now let’s add the fact that it’s a COPO with complete owner history from day one. That isn’t something that is seen very often these days. And it deserves being talked about.

I'm confused????

You say "The car is original. Now let’s add the fact that it’s a COPO with complete owner history from day one. That isn’t something that is seen very often these days."!

Yet on page 8 Sean says "I will not go into specifics but I was asked about the car and had a lengthy conversation with a potential buyer. No paper, many unknowns to throw down 6 figures. I asked several questions and they could not be verified. Enough for me that I would walk."

Also look at his cars Sean has 3 are COPO's.

chevmal 02-23-2020 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by EZ Nova (Post 1484440)
I'm confused????

You say "The car is original. Now let’s add the fact that it’s a COPO with complete owner history from day one. That isn’t something that is seen very often these days."!

Yet on page 8 Sean says "I will not go into specifics but I was asked about the car and had a lengthy conversation with a potential buyer. No paper, many unknowns to throw down 6 figures. I asked several questions and they could not be verified. Enough for me that I would walk."

Also look at his cars Sean has 3 are COPO's.

Yes, Sean needs to explain himself. I know who the "Potential Buyer" is because A father and son are the only people who have looked at this car and they heard about it thru their work place. It wasn't advertised for sale. The one who was interested in this car never checked any Numbers, Dates, or Codes of the car. So, Since it's said by Copo Cartel that the owner works at Marathon, Then I'll say the "Potential Buyer" has a connection with Marathon too. Sean needs to explain whats wrong with this car. As someone who has seen it a lot you don't find much better. Sean, did you ever think that the reason He couldn't verify anything is because He don't know nothing because he didn't check it out?

Charley Lillard 02-23-2020 01:12 AM

Did the appraiser value it at anywhere near the supposed 40 sales price ? If so I think I would go after the appraiser.

Bill Pritchard 02-23-2020 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by hurstL78 (Post 1484424)
I think one of the facts that have been overlooked in this thread is that a rare low mile super car has been discovered and brought to the surface. Just watch the video. The car is original. Now let’s add the fact that it’s a COPO with complete owner history from day one. That isn’t something that is seen very often these days. And it deserves being talked about.

If the current owner keeps the car, I'd wager you won't see or hear much more from him about the car on this site, and that's unfortunate :frown:

the427king 02-23-2020 02:18 AM

Would you really blame him for not sharing it with the site? Hes been called every name in the book, the car has been said to have rusty quarters and needing restoration when one of the only people that claims to know the car well says it isnt so.....sounds to me like a few people here that gloat and welcome all the praise when they find a similar car are just upset they didnt get this one,and feel the need to discredit this great find to ease thier pain of not finding it themselves ,and that is the real shame ....I would have loved to find it myself,but I'm still excited for the new owner unless he bought the car from the seller under duress or force or if an appraiser was in cahoots with the buyer .....

cook_dw 02-23-2020 02:43 AM

https://media1.tenor.com/images/5e25...temid=11036230

Richls5 02-23-2020 03:34 AM

someone shared pics of the car on facebook of it being detailed and whoever was polishing it it sure looked damn good to me

GotGrunt 02-23-2020 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MosportGreen66 (Post 1484372)
Like the real stamp 814 alternator that sold on FB Marketplace last night for $200? I don't need it but sure as heck offered to buy it just to keep it on the shelf for the 'who knows maybe one day' narrative... I have a pic of the listing too which I can edit in this evening.

Dan

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Originally Posted by cook_dw (Post 1484380)
Right there with you. If I’d only seen it sooner.. lol

Ditto :D

Ryan1969Chevelle 02-23-2020 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Richls5 (Post 1484457)
someone shared pics of the car on facebook of it being detailed and whoever was polishing it it sure looked damn good to me

Which FB group?

Ryan W31

Copo_Cartel 02-23-2020 11:41 AM

I was told by the father /son folks that went to look at it that the car was for sale at 225k and that the gentleman turned down 175k. The appraiser should be the one that is scrutinized IMHO. Karma does come back around. I have never bought a Chevelle ..so I was never an interested party to this car. Pointing out flipping a car for 6x it’s purchase price is worth noting ...especially with potential buyers from this site. Knowledge is a powerful thing and playing ignorant when selling parts or cars that are not as described is wrong. After the smoke clears I am sure this quality caliber car will find a good home and be well taken care of in honor of the original owner.

EZ Nova 02-23-2020 01:52 PM

78 why did you remove the link where the guy bought the painting cheap and split the profit??

70 copo 02-23-2020 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EZ Nova (Post 1484483)
78 why did you remove the link where the guy bought the painting cheap and split the profit??


This link??

https://www.apost.com/en/blog/homele...WSJQsE359dU1-0

EZ Nova 02-23-2020 02:01 PM

So what am I missing here???

Unrestored COPO Chevelle, guy buys for for $40K, turns down $175K because he wants $225K?

Know I will admit I'm not up with these unrestored cars and YES I know there only original once. But from what I saw, I didn't think it was worth the $175K?? Legendary has one:

https://www.legendarymotorcar.com/in...copo-1693.aspx

Fully restored and I figured there on the high side for COPO Chevelle being that there Legendary Motorcar, and there asking $169,9K?? I was thinking this car would be "MAYBE" in the $125K range if the paperwork was there that Sean stated could be questionable?

So what is it that makes this car SO much more?

70 copo 02-23-2020 02:03 PM

Could be that apost is known as a clickbait site

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/apost-com/

mrays 02-23-2020 07:26 PM

So is this car unrestored or an older restoration in need of some TLC? I believe there are only 3 known Tuxedo Black COPO Chevelles in the registry. The black Wagner car sold for $310K at Mecum Indy in 2009. If the car has been detailed since the video was taken it would be nice to see some photos of it. It's a great find and the new owner shouldn't be run of just because he got a good deal on the car.

LARRY540 02-23-2020 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by the427king (Post 1484360)
"This BS is amazing to me"..............that about sums it up.

yep that's the truth!!!amen to that

Sean 02-24-2020 03:13 PM

Explanation
 
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Originally Posted by chevmal (Post 1484442)
Yes, Sean needs to explain himself. I know who the "Potential Buyer" is because A father and son are the only people who have looked at this car and they heard about it thru their work place. It wasn't advertised for sale. The one who was interested in this car never checked any Numbers, Dates, or Codes of the car. So, Since it's said by Copo Cartel that the owner works at Marathon, Then I'll say the "Potential Buyer" has a connection with Marathon too. Sean needs to explain whats wrong with this car. As someone who has seen it a lot you don't find much better. Sean, did you ever think that the reason He couldn't verify anything is because He don't know nothing because he didn't check it out?


Explain what? I never said anything was wrong with it. You must be involved as your posts are only about this car. Your defense questions bring a lot of light to the car. I was contacted by 2 people. When I am asked not to reveal who or what I DON'T period that is respect. It is not a holy grail car to me nor have I or had any interest of buying it or was offered. Do I think it is worth 225k NO 175K NO. I own several super cars and I use guidelines on my own purchases which is a basic list of questions and verification. I have seen so many cars blown up to be the best of the best the "Holy" grail car etc and people get pumped up I get it. And there are at least 7-8 black copo chevelles as well. My thoughts are different on these cars as they hold a special place in history to me. Not about how much I can get and be a "Flipper". So to tell me that I need to explain myself this is my explanation. Explain why you are so interested and what your own conclusion is?

EZ Nova 02-24-2020 03:51 PM

I believe I'm on another site with Sean. And I will say this, he has been helpful and forthright with info when I need it or had questions. So for me, having some other interactions with him, woukd listen to his words.

John

Richls5 02-24-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan1969Chevelle (Post 1484469)
Which FB group?

Ryan W31

one of the Chevelle ones I think Chevelle owners but now of course I cant find it

chevmal 02-24-2020 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1484605)
Explain what? I never said anything was wrong with it. You must be involved as your posts are only about this car. Your defense questions bring a lot of light to the car. I was contacted by 2 people. When I am asked not to reveal who or what I DON'T period that is respect. It is not a holy grail car to me nor have I or had any interest of buying it or was offered. Do I think it is worth 225k NO 175K NO. I own several super cars and I use guidelines on my own purchases which is a basic list of questions and verification. I have seen so many cars blown up to be the best of the best the "Holy" grail car etc and people get pumped up I get it. And there are at least 7-8 black copo chevelles as well. My thoughts are different on these cars as they hold a special place in history to me. Not about how much I can get and be a "Flipper". So to tell me that I need to explain myself this is my explanation. Explain why you are so interested and what your own conclusion is?

Sean, With your comments you are making it sound like there are problems with this car, Go back and read your post. Just because the father and son couldn't answer your questions. I've inspected $1000.00 cars better than the 2 inspected this car. This is the "69 427 COPO Barn Find Post" might explain why I'm commenting only about it. Obviously I know personally about this car. You may know of 8,10, or even 50 black COPO cars, But there are only 3 known besides this one. By this registry this is a 1 of 2 black 4 speed car known. Something is odd if this isn't a holy grail. What do you need to know that the 2 men couldn't enlight you about? It is a shame that a nice car as this is brought to life and mostly all the people on this registry want to do is down play it and accuse the owner of being a thief, cheater, whatever else they can think of. The 2 men learned about this car thru work and contacted the owner and they ask to come look at the car and He gave them a not for sale price and here we are, lies, accusations, and cut up backs. This is a great condition one family owned unmolested original car, Can't we celebrate that?

Sean 02-24-2020 10:31 PM

You are speculating that I said something is wrong. Plain in simple I do not by any cars with no documentation. I cut to the chase no BS with me. I have my ways about doing business. Father and son? Do not know anything about that. It may upset you I do not agree with you. If someone wants to pony up 225k good for them. I did not down play the car saying it was a fake or anything else. You come on here only to speak about this car with 5 posts and you are defensive if someone may ask a question that does not suit your situation. The barn find deal has become redundant all cars are now barn finds. Neat find why not post up some detailed photos, numbers, stamping, any original paper work and legitimize it as to what it is suppose to be that would cool would it not?

subyman99 02-25-2020 01:50 AM

Sean, speaking of cars with docs.. what happened to your “original paint black copo “ you tried selling me? You sent pics of a known clone car to me stating it was a survivor car. After some research I found it was a fake that was sold through one of the auctions.
You never did clear that one up with me very well.

RST 02-25-2020 07:33 AM

Wow what a read ….. my 2 cents worth …… if you have the money and you think its worth it ………….. good for you ….. buy it …… to me, if it is not a Canadian documented car, or have a TON of original documentation with absolute proof …. you blew it at any price. As for what its worth ………… original, restored or otherwise …. its an old Muscle Car and its worth what someone is willing to pay for it :) God Bless you all :)

Rumbleguts396 02-25-2020 12:23 PM

Just my opinion. This thread seems to have run its course. Derailed and become personal. Not what this forum is about. Let’s keep it fun, a place to forget about our day to day and realities of life/work Etc. Rob

m22mike 02-25-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumbleguts396 (Post 1484714)
Just my opinion. This thread seems to have run its course. Derailed and become personal. Not what this forum is about. Let’s keep it fun, a place to forget about our day to day and realities of life/work Etc. Rob


Agree, maybe time to shut it down :confused2:
Mike

HawkX66 02-25-2020 01:28 PM

For what it's worth, I disagree with shutting disagreeable threads down. It goes with freedom of speech. Sometimes it isn't convenient or comfortable. Sometimes the truth about things shakes out in the end. If folks don't like reading the back and forth, which I truly can understand, they don't have to keep clicking on the link to read it.
This is an amazing car IMO and I've enjoyed reading about it.

m22mike 02-25-2020 01:49 PM

I hope we all get to see allot more of this car at some point.


Mike

Schonyenko2 02-25-2020 01:49 PM

Question: I thought that 15x7 ralleys were what came standard on COPO Chevelle. Were SS rims an option rather than the ralleys?


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