This could be the fence that was mentioned.

This is a photo of ZL-1 #1 in about 1971 when it was run by Fred and Jim Hayter

The back lot of Gibb Chevrolet

This is the ZL-1 powered Corvette show car

The Z-427 and the Corvette were built with a lot of custom details

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Great updates also pics!
To confirm, are you guys saying the Z-427 also Experimental ‘Vette in the 03/69 Roger Dean Ad both for sure had their Alloy lumps added/neither was a Factory Aluminum Engine car?:hmmm:
Love the ZL1 #1 pics Joe posted above, here’s another great shot of it I had saved, note decal differences + non-painted lower lenses also no front spoiler.
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~ Pete

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GM documents list the exact number of RPO (regular production) 1969 ZL-1 vettes as: 2


The white car has been ruled-out as one of the "2" regular production cars ... it was built too early, before the first/pilot production ZL-1 vette was built.


Of course, this "official number" (2) does not include: mules, prototypes, dealer conversions, or any cars converted or "hand built" (after production) with OTC ZL-1 engines.

one article states the "1969 Aero Coupe" was originally a 1968 small block Corvette. It was custom built by Chevy Eng with a Zl-1 engine with L-88 hood and 427 emblems, and a lot of other mods.

In 1970 it was rebuilt and renamed the "1970 Scirocco" It had a flat hood and "ZL-1" emblem or decal on the fender. It is said to be 454 cu in aluminum engine with a prototype Rochester Fuel Injection system.

In 1974. was rebuilt and renamed again as the "1974 Mulsanne" was used as a show car and Can Am pace car.

Ok, do you have colors of these "official" ZL1's? We all agree on Roger's Yellow being legit, but your saying the EX Kevin Saydum WHITE is a fake?

http://corvettes-musclecars.com/gall...L-1+427-430HP/

And what about the orange GULF/ John Mayer/ YENKO involved convert??

The yellow & orange cars are, far and away, the two most likely candidates for the 2 RPO (regular production) 1969 ZL-1 corvettes.


Unfortunately, no known Chevrolet documents list the VIN numbers of the 2 RPO cars.

----I can understand the theft problems with that corn field right behind the lot. Thieves probably came thru the corn field and had a "field day"....Bill S

When the orange car was being auctioned there were quite a few discussions on the various Corvette forums....Lots of really fascinating reading on the ZL1 program!

The yellow car is really the only car I believe is beyond question at this time.

Sadly the building it was retail delivered from (Hechler) was recently torn down to make way for a car wash. At one point back in early 2000's there was some discussion about having the yellow car brought up and displayed at then Patrick Chevrolet (Hechler building) but unfortunately nothing became of it.

Little known Chevy trivia....Hechler is the only dealer to have had both types of 1969 ZL1 cars.

For a very long time, i've found it funny (ironic? or sad?) that we know the VINs of the 69 Camaro ZL-1 COPO cars (thanks to the efforts of my friends Bill Porterfield and Bill Glowacki, also Fred Gibb, Vince Piggins, and many others) ... but we still don't know the VINs of the 2 Corvette ZL-1 RPO cars! (with any real certainty)

That much I figured. I'm wondering why it was calling a clearly 1969 Camaro, a 1967 Camaro?

That tells me it has a normal (saleable) VIN.

Cars with an experimental VIN (or property tag/no VIN) would only be able to use an M plate.

K

It tells me something different. :)
Normal plates went on all the lease cars, pool cars, etc. Having a normal plate meant that it wasn't assigned to a department for development, etc. And met crash and emissions. Obviously, they weren't that rigorous with the rules back then.

Depends on the department. All our M-plate cars had normal VIN's. We got production cars and then put prototype parts on them.

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Back to the total ZL1’s built known/reported circa 69/70, this 08/69 Lafferty Ad below notes 67 cars…close but not bang on like the Huebner Ad.
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~ Pete

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The ad states "Camero"...
Too funny...

I believe this is ZL-1 #23

I have photos of it before it was restored and it had white Z/28 style stripes on it with thin blue lines on the white

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I expected the Lafferty Ad was #23, were any other ZL1’s known sold there?
These two links are still alive from when Steve S. restored the car…
https://www.69zl1.com/
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=74302
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~ Pete

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Interesting time line dates on #23

In the 1991 letter from Fred Gibb , he states the car was received by Gibb Chevrolet on March 13, 1969 then returned to Chevy on May 24, 1969

Lafferty Ad is dated Aug 1969

The info sheet on the car states Lafferty sold it on Aug. 10, 1970

Here is something I had in my ZL-1 file on the orange ZL-1 Corvette TH400

unless this tank sticker is fake, it appears to show it was ordered as a ZL-1

----Well,,,At least to me, that answers the question of weather or not the orange car is a real ZL-1....!....Bill S

Is that the tank sticker for the orange ZL-1 with the Gulf Research stickers from around the Pittsburgh area?

Date received is 8/11/22 ???

this was the one with the Gulf decals that has since be restored to original

Thanks Joe. I saw that car at a few car shows in Pittsburgh when I lived there. Such a cool Corvette and the guy did seem genuine about the provenance of it.

November 22, 1968

the Orange ZL-1 was around for many years with some racing history then was restored and sold for over $3M

In the articles about the cars history, it was said to be certified as a ZL-1

----One year at Corvette Carlisle the owner had aa room at our hotel and we talked quite a bit. He was a really nice guy and very accomodating to all my questions. I have never thought for a moment that the car wasn't what it was purported to be!....Bill S

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07/69 Salt Lake City Utah Ad w/ 50 built noted.
Would this be Craig Cazier’s ZL-1 campaigned as ‘Action West’?
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~ Pete

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here is a ZL-1 article where Dick Harrell said 52 cars built

Someone may have told him 52 early on

The 52 number was used in some ads

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Straying further off track, below is Craig Cazier’s car from Draglist where it notes ‘Real ZL-1 Camaro’.
Anyone know anything of this Salt Lake Utah racer and car, same one as the Capitol Chev Ad above or another also which ZL-1(s) specifically?
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~ Pete

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Do not know which one it is. If I had to guess, #19 or #21 both Dusk Blue 4-speeds.

Can i just say ... this guy William ^^ knows a thing or two about ZL-1s :wink:

Craig Cazier’s Action West Camaro

had to be 1970 or later for Pro Stock

The information I have on the Actiion West Camaro, which I affectionately call the 70th ZL1, N666604, was given to me when I interviewed Click Bamberger over 34 years ago at his residence. He said the Camaro was invoiced through Dick Harrell to Capital Chevrolet in SLC, Utah. He said the sticker price was $7,200.00.
I interviewed Ron Stokes, a district manager for Chevrolet in the Northwest and he remembered the car being shuffled from dealer to dealer due to the price . Rex Parmain, team mechanic said the car disappeared from the dealership for three days before it was sold, was joy ridden by salesman and caught rod bolt and broke three pistons.They found the damage when they tore the motor down for a blueprint and found a gouge in the block and 3 pistons replaced.
I interviewed Craig Cazier's ex-wife who said the car was never street driven, came to shop, they went into the hood, came out the trunk, stripped everything for racing Pro-stock.. It was painted Tangerine Metallic by Stan Robles, a painter for George Barris. They took the prepped car to Pomona for the 1st ever Pro Stock event, quailified 18th in the 32 car field, won round one, broke in 2nd round. The car was match raced in the West till sold in 1971 or 1972. I emailed Vickie Harrell and she was very receptive to give me information on what she had about the car until she found out who owned the car now and cut off all dialogue.
The car went through several owners, finally stripped of parts, cut up, dumped and abandoned. I chased it down, dragged the poor carcass home. My memories of the car was when I saw if parked at F. G Ferre and sons Speed Shop in SLC, then at a friends garage. When I saw it I said it has to be a Z28 due to the disc brakes, but he said no, its a 427 because of the 427 crayon marks in the fender extensions.
Now for the downer part. Ive got letters from Fred Gibb, Ed Cunnen and Chevrolet, saying no, it could be a dealer prepped car, but not a factory ZL1. No papers,protecta-plate etc,,. Its got a factory punched T.I ignition hole in the firewall, welded n10 exhaust plate on the frame, the X44D80 trim tag..
Theres a bit more information on past owners names, a few pictures, etc.
Regards, Brent

I believe the guy who ordered the Bamberger ZL1 lives in my city of St.George Utah. I heard that when the car showed up and Bamberger seen the plan Jane Camaro, he didn't want the car. The sales guy had to scramble to move the very expensive car.

Interesting story on the Action West Camaro

did you get a NCRS shipping data report on it showing what dealer it was shipped to?

What color and interior is on the trim tag?

do you still have it?

Yup, it's a story for sure.

N666604 was final-assembled on or about July 7, 1969.

It was submitted to the CRG data base October 2001, noted as COPO 9561. Was a stripped body at that time, originally orange X44D80. Sold new at Capitol Chev.

That it was raced with a ZL-1 engine does not mean it was built with COPO 9560. Bill Jenkins, Jim Liberman, Dave Arnold, famously raced retrofitted ZL-1 powered '69 Camaros. I have examined many old Camaro drag cars with plenty of owner-added holes for racing equipment.

Ironic, I recently examined an in-process ZL-1 Camaro restoration with the TI hole welded shut. Or, at least it wasn't there...