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RS_COPO_Canuck 11-06-2017 12:37 PM

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My original drums on my Bird

Does the car have steelies or road wheels? No drum red paint on steelies - just on "styled" wheels.

The engine ground strap (rear) was on the engine when it was painted and the terminal end was masked off....from my GTX

When I can I will have a look through your pics again.

Car looks great....I like R6!

sixt9rsx33 11-11-2017 01:23 PM

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I have been slack posting. Here are a few updates. Including cleaning the dash. Dave pointed out to me the date code on the rear end piece being very early in 68. Kind of throws out the window the theory of parts being within a 90 day window of assembly.

sixt9rsx33 11-11-2017 01:28 PM

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The image that looks like a paint spill is just that. When the rear end came out of the Evap o Rust there was a paint spill there. So I duplicated it.

sixt9rsx33 11-11-2017 01:37 PM

I am still working on the dash, but it is cleaning up real nice. I ordered a Tic Tock Tach and once here will install that.
Thanks to A12 Pilot:grin: I have a brand new headlight vacuum line system for the headlight system. Very kind Pay Forward:headbang:

sixt9rsx33 11-11-2017 01:44 PM

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Dash pics. The area of the dash below the VIN plate had a small amount of rust damage. The original windshield was in the car so I assume the seal failed allowing water to collect on this corner. I am treating it with Evap O Rust and a blue paper towel. The area is responding well. I will probably lightly sand that area and then shoot the corner with textured paint. Before I do that I am going to test it. If it looks worse with the paint I will leave well enough alone.

sixt9rsx33 11-15-2017 01:18 AM

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Got the rear end in the car today!!! Yea!!!😃😃
Engine in the K member, picked up the compressor. Will install that tomorrow. Hopefully drop the car on the K member in a few days😊😊

A12pilot 11-15-2017 05:39 PM

Woohoo! Good work Lawrence!! It'll be so rewarding when you turn that key. And if it's like me....it'll be a "click...click....click.....":eek2::laugh:

Looking good man!

Cheers:beers:
Dave

mockingbird812 11-15-2017 05:50 PM

Yeah, looking real nice!

396L78canuck 11-15-2017 07:51 PM

Wow looks really nice.bob

m22mike 11-15-2017 09:08 PM

:drool:.......:drool:...and...:worship:

sixt9rsx33 11-15-2017 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by A12pilot (Post 1375426)
Woohoo! Good work Lawrence!! It'll be so rewarding when you turn that key. And if it's like me....it'll be a "click...click....click.....":eek2::laugh:

Looking good man!

Cheers:beers:
Dave

Thanks Dave! I hope to get the click click click!!:confused2:

sixt9rsx33 11-15-2017 09:58 PM

Thanks guys...getting fired up to get it on the road

sixt9rsx33 11-29-2017 10:52 AM

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Engine and tranny are in!!! The ole girl is coming along

A12pilot 11-30-2017 01:19 PM

I remember that day! Woohoo! Looking awesome!

Cheers
Dave

mockingbird812 11-30-2017 06:02 PM

Smokin'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cook_dw 12-01-2017 12:10 PM

Between the A12 of Dave's and this Charger I'm really digging these Mopars more and more. Fantastic work.

sixt9rsx33 12-01-2017 09:45 PM

Thanks Darrell��. Mopars are definitely cool cars. So different than GM IMO.

sixt9rsx33 12-01-2017 09:49 PM

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Original bumper plated and installed. Very pleased with the figment and really how things are coming along. I will be putting the dash in next week. Trunk is all finished. Except the decals.

sixt9rsx33 12-01-2017 09:50 PM

Oops posted the same pic twice

mockingbird812 12-01-2017 10:42 PM

Nice hiney on that Charger! Love it!

Stefano 12-03-2017 07:40 PM

Nice job!

sixt9rsx33 12-17-2017 01:10 AM

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Here are a few more updated photos. The wheels are temp. The ones I want are actually the full chrome 68 Road wheels but they can’t be ordered until February. The tie wraps on the heater hoses are temp too.

454_Malibu 12-17-2017 11:19 PM

I Luv this Charger,, Awesome Job.

RJS 12-23-2017 11:59 PM

Wish I would have seen this post sooner, you have a few incorrect items.
Alternator has a new style pulley on it and the pulley should be black like all other pulley's.
Looks like your using old strut rod bushings, I see cracking in the pictures and that is a No No.
You coil looks old, should be semi gloss black with Green Lettering and date code.
Coil bracket should be silver zinc.
The whole steering box should be painted Black but not the spline d shaft.
PCV valve and grommet engine color.
The vacuum fittings screwed into the intake and water pump housing including the temp. sender shouldn't be painted.
The oil pressure switch at rear of block looks used, should be yellow cad. plated.
Rear marker light Bezels should be stripe color (Black)
Upper shock bushings should have never been left in there during painting process.
Oval plastic plug on lower driver side of engine compartment shouldn't be painted either.
Distributor cap should be Tan not Black.
I saw the Pentastar still on passenger fender during priming, hopefully wasn't painted over with R6.
Ground-strap at rear of manifold painted with engine same as Neg. Battery cable.
Voltage regulator show have yellow print on it and date code.
The bracket at rear of engine that the #8 wire passes through needs to be spun upward. The round white plastic grommet that would snap that wire into it goes unpainted.
This is way I remember without going back through the past 11 pages.
Ron

sixt9rsx33 12-24-2017 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RJS (Post 1380757)
Wish I would have seen this post sooner, you have a few incorrect items.
Alternator has a new style pulley on it and the pulley should be black like all other pulley's.
Looks like your using old strut rod bushings, I see cracking in the pictures and that is a No No.
You coil looks old, should be semi gloss black with Green Lettering and date code.
Coil bracket should be silver zinc.
The whole steering box should be painted Black but not the spline d shaft.
PCV valve and grommet engine color.
The vacuum fittings screwed into the intake and water pump housing including the temp. sender shouldn't be painted.
The oil pressure switch at rear of block looks used, should be yellow cad. plated.
Rear marker light Bezels should be stripe color (Black)
Upper shock bushings should have never been left in there during painting process.
Oval plastic plug on lower driver side of engine compartment shouldn't be painted either.
Distributor cap should be Tan not Black.
I saw the Pentastar still on passenger fender during priming, hopefully wasn't painted over with R6.
Ground-strap at rear of manifold painted with engine same as Neg. Battery cable.
Voltage regulator show have yellow print on it and date code.
The bracket at rear of engine that the #8 wire passes through needs to be spun upward. The round white plastic grommet that would snap that wire into it goes unpainted.
This is way I remember without going back through the past 11 pages.
Ron


RJS thanks for the items to work on. I have a few questions/comments.
Will replace alternator pulley...thanks for the heads up
Yes used the original strut rod bushing trying to preserve the bushings that have "Front" script on them. They seemed to be ok when we put the front end together but will consider replacing
The rear light bezels, are they painted black? I cut the stripe and stuffed it in the rear light body hole.
Yea the coil is original. It looked a little nasty when I pulled it off. I will repaint semi-gloss, or will consider a repro coil with the correct green lettering with date code.
Will remove paint from coil bracket...thanks...
Will correct PCV
Will look at the steering box.
Used the same oil sending unit. I have noticed it needs to be clean. It is gold dichromate now
The items that are screwed into the intake that are not supposed to be painted will be corrected...thank you
Upper shock bushings have been replaced.
Oval plug in the lower driver side needs to be stripped of paint....agree
Will replace D cap
New Pentastar installed in passenger fender
Rear ground strap is painted now
Voltage regulator was original, and had green paint on it before I painted it. I tried to preserve it but it was just too far gone. Actually had spray bomb over it. Took that off and that is when I saw the original paint and green font. Decided to go with the original in this condition for now.
Will correct the #8 plug wire support.

Thank you for the heads up on this stuff. First Mopar resto I have done. Keep the comments coming. Very helpful.

Lawrence

RJS 12-24-2017 05:35 PM

Yes rear bezel for reflector needs to be painted Black as stripe color. They would "X" cut the stripe and fold it in.
The regulator in 69 if very early would have red print on it. (mostly 68's used the red print) 69 used a yellow print.
Google these guys:
Frank Badalson
Bill Rolick
Bill Meerholz
ECS Automotive

They are the good places an OE type resto would need.
Also Mega is a great place for parts too.

RJS 12-24-2017 05:46 PM

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This was my 69 Coronet R/T 440
Throttle spring was later changed to silver and V.Regulator to one with proper date code and Yellow script

RJS 12-24-2017 11:53 PM

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Here's my old 70 GTX 440 showing the #8 wire holder, oil pressure switch, coil and bracket, vacuum fittings in manifold etc...

sixt9rsx33 12-25-2017 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RJS (Post 1380844)
Yes rear bezel for reflector needs to be painted Black as stripe color. They would "X" cut the stripe and fold it in.
The regulator in 69 if very early would have red print on it. (mostly 68's used the red print) 69 used a yellow print.
Google these guys:
Frank Badalson
Bill Rolick
Bill Meerholz
ECS Automotive

They are the good places an OE type resto would need.
Also Mega is a great place for parts too.

Yep have bought from Frank, Rolik and ECS, but not Bill Meerholz. I got my exhaust, decals from Tom at ECS. bought a few fasteners from Frank, and lots of stuff from Bill Rolik.

sixt9rsx33 12-25-2017 12:53 AM

Thanks for the pics, those are great. Will make the changes.

sixt9rsx33 12-25-2017 01:44 AM

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Here is my VR after I removed the rattle can paint. Notice the font, I said it looks green in an earlier post, but meant yellow. Car was built early November 68.

RJS 12-25-2017 04:27 PM

Is the upside down # to the right 1608?? If so then I'm confused Chrysler used 3 digit in 61-9 Example 349 would be 34th. week of 1969.
Also if you need wiring you have to go through Year One or Classic since M+H doesn't sell direct for Mopar.
I used to buy these with electronic guts and then buy an NOS and swap covers.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-Volta...-/121703672807

Hope some of this helped
Ron

6t9chgr 12-26-2017 01:55 AM

Thanks for the link to this thread Ron.

OP...very cool 69 R/T you have there! Mine was originally R6 as well. (Black top, interior also but V88 stripe delete) One day ill go back to the original color

Mine was originally an AC car as well. Curious as to the reason you made the discharge hose 2 pieces instead of the original one piece design? I see you had the hoses replaced...were they not able to keep it one piece?

Heres a few pics of mine...I took the liberty of adding a few factory options to mine over the years (V21 hood treatment & J45 hood pins, electronic ign, charging etc) Ive had her for over 20 years and after a while you get bored of just putting gas into her LOL Swapping wheels etc only goes so far!

I enjoyed the pics of your resto and it looks like a lot of care & attention to detail went into her! Good luck!

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5600/...7564c2ce_b.jpg


https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1645/...be04124d_b.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5677/...f3e5fd45_b.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7284/...1c343cc8_b.jpg

sixt9rsx33 12-26-2017 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RJS (Post 1380970)
Is the upside down # to the right 1608?? If so then I'm confused Chrysler used 3 digit in 61-9 Example 349 would be 34th. week of 1969.
Also if you need wiring you have to go through Year One or Classic since M+H doesn't sell direct for Mopar.
I used to buy these with electronic guts and then buy an NOS and swap covers.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-Volta...-/121703672807

Hope some of this helped
Ron

Ron thanks for the help. Lots of good info.
Not positive what the date code is on the VR. Now that I look at the number it may be 209. Would that be the 20th week of 1969? If so then a replacement?
I have bought all new wiring for the car mostly from Year One except for one wiper harness and automatic transmission harness which those came from Evans via Dante's.
Yes, I have seen the electronic VR's and considered switching the tops especially for my 69 Camaro's. Easy and cheap, came with the mid year Vettes.
Thanks and will keep you posted on the list you provided.

sixt9rsx33 12-26-2017 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 6t9chgr (Post 1381058)
Thanks for the link to this thread Ron.

OP...very cool 69 R/T you have there! Mine was originally R6 as well. (Black top, interior also but V88 stripe delete) One day ill go back to the original color

Mine was originally an AC car as well. Curious as to the reason you made the discharge hose 2 pieces instead of the original one piece design? I see you had the hoses replaced...were they not able to keep it one piece?

Heres a few pics of mine...I took the liberty of adding a few factory options to mine over the years (V21 hood treatment & J45 hood pins, electronic ign, charging etc) Ive had her for over 20 years and after a while you get bored of just putting gas into her LOL Swapping wheels etc only goes so far!

I enjoyed the pics of your resto and it looks like a lot of care & attention to detail went into her! Good luck!

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5600/...7564c2ce_b.jpg


https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1645/...be04124d_b.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5677/...f3e5fd45_b.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7284/...1c343cc8_b.jpg

Beautiful car 6T9chgr. I understand the liberty's taken. I had a 68 Charger that I took a few liberties with too. Was a great driver. At times wish I had it back in addition to the this car. I have known this car since I was 16 my neighbor owned it. I am the third owner and all original NC car garaged most of it's life.
Not sure I understand your question about the discharge hose. Help me out there. It is late and have had a long day so that very well could be the reason for my question!!:crazy:

6t9chgr 12-26-2017 09:24 AM

Looking at this pic, you will see near the battery, that the discharge hose off the compressor is one piece (steel-rubber-steel)

In your hose there is a removable joint where you can separate the steel part from the rubber...effectively making it a 2 piece hose....

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4693/...afcaf49e_b.jpg

RJS 12-26-2017 01:49 PM

6t9chr is a good friend of mine and I couldn't wait to show him your thread. He is a full of Charger knowledge among other things!!!
Yes your right your date code is 209 so must have been replaced early on in life.
I want him to put his car back to R6 but he decided to put 2 kids through college, live in a house and eat instead.
Ron

sixt9rsx33 12-26-2017 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 6t9chgr (Post 1381086)
Looking at this pic, you will see near the battery, that the discharge hose off the compressor is one piece (steel-rubber-steel)

In your hose there is a removable joint where you can separate the steel part from the rubber...effectively making it a 2 piece hose....

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4693/...afcaf49e_b.jpg

Ok gotcha. Simple answer is that is the way it was. When I started the resto, there were changes to the AC lines where they had been "amended" over the course of the cars life. My ac guy made new rubber hoses and also installed better...clamps?? Around the rubber hose? The clamps that were on there were not a good design as he said. They were prone to leak freon. Clamps is the wrong word. The metal piece that is crimped to hold the hose on. My old crimps sucked and this is a better design.
Let me know what else you see that is wrong. I want to put everything back correct. I see where my ac line is painted black and should be silver. The line from the compressor going over towards the passenger side of the engine compartment.

sixt9rsx33 12-26-2017 02:29 PM

I have been looking long and hard for ac compressor braces. If you know anyone that has the correct ones please let me know. I have a pair but unfortunately they are wrong.

6t9chgr 12-26-2017 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sixt9rsx33 (Post 1381107)
I have been looking long and hard for ac compressor braces. If you know anyone that has the correct ones please let me know. I have a pair but unfortunately they are wrong.

Yes those are pretty much made of unobtanium. I got my set in a package deal with the hoses etc. When I bought my car 20+ years ago, all the underhood AC stuff was missing. Finding & buying back 440 engine, one year only stuff is quite costly!

As far as the AC hose crimps, yes the serrated style is the more modern crimp that can handle more PSI. The original circular style crimp is no longer available as far as I know....

I dont consider my car "correct" but I tried to make it "stock looking"as possible.

Looking over your pics I do notice that you dont have the "correct" valve cover studs on the front & rear lower positions...you have bolts all around.

Also, hard to see in the pics but do you have the special battery cable clamp that bolts to the back of the compressor bracket? (circled in the pic)

Also for 69 440 with AC the throttle return spring should be green...

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4641/...0e8ca364_z.jpg


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