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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: crash</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1965-68 Pontiac full-size Muncie is 6&quot; longer than the standard Muncie(and I know where some are)...

I've seen this kind of explosion, check the insides of that Muncie real good... Crash </div></div>

Eric;

Just out of curiosity, can you measure the difference between the 3857584 tailhousing and the 9779246 Pontiac tailhousing trans mount pad?

Does the Pontiac tailhousing use the forward or rearward shifter mounting location?

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NDI to the nth ...

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NDI? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

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Nondestructive Inspection ... system used for inspection of various aircraft related componenents.

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Ah...I'm familiar with NDT, but I'd not heard of NDI. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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Trans has been ordered and is supposed to be here Friday or Monday.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: earntaz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nondestructive Inspection ... system used for inspection of various aircraft related componenents. </div></div>



Yep, same as NDE.....I spend all day staring at Welds and Fabrications. I'm the guy that drives everyone nutz...... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]


BIG

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You'd think I would've known that acronym since I worked in the aerospace industry...probably knew it at one point and forgot. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]


The ol' gray matter just ain't what it used to be. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

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Thats why they give us tech data to read even if we've accomplished the task a thousand times -- if something goes hayware, the first thing a QA/QC dude will ask: &quot;Were you using the proper tech order/manual, etc.&quot; If you say no -- you're dead meat even if ya' did the task correctly. For me, it was petty easy -- as a Nuke Troop always had someone to assist -- the old two person concept ... always watching each others six. TAZ

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I refer back to my codes daily at times. Other times, they sit on the shelf and gather dust. Always follow the directions and if you vary, better prove it works first. Science, physics and math have been around a long time, that's why they always win. .... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img]

BIG

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I was readin' some of the remarks here and was wondering what kind of transmission you were getting. Also wanted to say, I have a close friend restoring his LS6 1970 Chevelle to near new original except he had been racing it with an auto trans where it originally had a 4 speed, he sold the 4 speed a few years after buying it in favor of the auto for drag racing, that said, he's pretty good about researching stuff before he buys and has recently received a 4 speed built to m22 specs from a company called Auto Gear in New York. Its supposed to be even better than a m22 for quality of the gears and other parts in it. Just wanted to let you know about it in case you hadn't already heard of them. I'm a newbie and still learning at 66 years old so if I'm off base, just let me know.
http://www.autogear.net/

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Dan;

You're not off base in any way, and welcome to The Supercar Registry!

The trans I had in the car was built on an Autogear case and iron midplate with GM internals. I have a friend who's going to perform an autopsy on the box and see what--if anything--is still salvageable. If it's worth the effort, I'll get another case &amp; tailhousing later on down the road and rebuild the box and put under the workbench for the day I put the Chevelle back to stock.

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Eric, I measured the long Muncie against the standard Muncie and...

The long one is 6 1/4&quot; longer...

The trans mount is 7 1/2&quot; further back...

The shifter mounting pad is in the same location...

Hope this helps... Crash

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Thanks!

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Good to hear. Hope it all goes well.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: budnate</div><div class="ubbcode-body">https://youtu.be/2lLpZ4hm8b8 </div></div>

DAMN; now that is what drag racing should be. You wanna fill the stands bring back a class where the driver actually has to shift.

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That's Robert Schmitt's car, he was the winner of the 2004 Hot Rod magazine's pump gas drags event.

One of my favorite `67's of all time.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Rifkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: budnate</div><div class="ubbcode-body">https://youtu.be/2lLpZ4hm8b8 </div></div>

DAMN; now that is what drag racing should be. You wanna fill the stands bring back a class where the driver actually has to shift. </div></div>

AND get rid of the electonics -- only gimmick is a line lock ... that will separate the men from the boys. Some of these &quot;race cars&quot; have more electonics in the cockpit then the Space Shuttle! Let go of the button, stab it and aim it ...

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Pretty sure that he's using the rev limiter for shifts on that.

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Not sure if a RL will give a driver an advantage -- but it may certainly keep cost down if you miss a shift!! LOL

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*edited while I verify info*

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I love your threads Eric. You consistently build the right amount of suspense and the story is fun to follow along with. I'll admit though, I am glad there seems to be a happier tone now that the solution has been chosen. Wish i was in a better position to contribute to your repair, cause when this thread first started -the sickness in my stomach from reading the news can't compare to how you must have felt. You did a nice job of keeping your chin up. Good luck on trans 2.0!

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(Missed the edit deadline for the last post)

Posted previously above, then removed while I verified the info. See video and info at the end for more info:
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If you have a pro-shifted/faceplated trans, you can use the rev limiter as a &quot;power interrupter&quot; of sorts which enables clutchless shifting. When the engine hits the limiter, power is reduced and the trans will nearly automatically engage the next gear (the driver pre-loads the shifter towards the next gear immediately after each shift). When you heard that popping just before each shift--that was the rev limiter.

Otherwise, you just barely use the clutch to release the load from the trans at the shift point and just as with using the limiter, the trans will essentially pull itself into the next gear.

Very cool stuff, and I came within a <span style="font-style: italic">whisker</span> of going that exact route after this failure, but ultimately wound up taking a slightly different direction.

As it is, a near-perfect solution to my transmission issue pretty much fell into my lap by sheer happenstance. It was one of those &quot;right place at the right time&quot; scenarios.

I promise I'll post up the details as soon as everything's here.

I dropped the Quicktime bellhousing off @ Kammers this afternoon to see if the tweaked trans mounting ear can be put back in place. They seemed relatively confident it could be fixed, I'm to call tomorrow afternoon for the final verdict.

*EDIT*

Check out this video on driving a non-synchro Jerico DR4 on the street. Be sure to read the text below the video for a full explanation.

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Paul;

I appreciate the kind words, but I'm far from out of the woods with this deal...I am <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="text-decoration: underline">way out</span></span> in no man's land at this point.

The main thing that's keeping me moving forward now is a rather strange mix of good old-fashioned bull-headed determination (which some may consider a character flaw at times like this) and morbid curiosity.

I'm still pretty shell-shocked at all this, but what else can I do?--even though the thought crossed my mind (and made a hell of an effort to stay there!), I can't exactly leave this thing mechanically eviscerated sitting on jackstands in my garage. I'm in what some might call automotive purgatory--I can't really afford <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="text-decoration: underline">to</span></span></span> fix the car at this point, but at the same time I can't afford <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="text-decoration: underline">NOT to</span></span></span> fix it either.

I can see myself drifting off towards one hell of a rant, so I'll cut this short here.

Your encouragement and kind words are more than enough contribution.

Thank you, and I mean that sincerely. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

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A little good news:

Kammers just called and they were able to repair the bellhousing.

One rather expensive bullet dodged.

The new clutch also just came in along with the tall Mark Williams pinion yoke.

Re: the pinion yoke, I wanted to note something...

It might seem somewhat frivolous to swap the pinion yoke <span style="font-style: italic">just to</span> shave another inch off of the driveshaft, but there's a little more to it than that. The MW yoke also takes a 1350 series universal joint which is considerably stronger than the OEM 1330 series pinion flange and universal joint.

The new driveshaft will come with 1350 series universal joints by default, and as such would've required an adapter universal joint to mate to the OEM pinion flange--not the way I want to go with this. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img]

More details once the trans arrives.

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Don't fret, in the Aerospace industry NDT is an acronym for both Testing and Inspection.

You don't really hear the acronym NDI To often.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VintageMusclecar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You'd think I would've known that acronym since I worked in the aerospace industry...probably knew it at one point and forgot. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]


The ol' gray matter just ain't what it used to be. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] </div></div>

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This A &amp; P mechanic always took NDT as meaning &quot;Non destructive test&quot; , like X rays, die penatrant, zy glo and eddy currant inspections to list a few. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

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I guess I am old school -- after being involved with the USAF and DoD for over 41 years ... NDI was the common term. TAZ

http://www.tinker.af.mil/library/fac...et.asp?id=5509

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With all this talk about driveshaft's, I thought this would be appropriate.

http://www.iedls.com/asp/admin/getFi...=28&amp;FN=PDF

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Tim -- excellent article ... TAZ

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The replacement trans is on the FedEx truck for delivery today.

Rather than continue on this thread, I'm going to start another one as soon as it's here. I want to put the negative behind and focus on the positive, hence the new thread.