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The girl in the picture was a playboy playmate that was killed by her boyfriend I believe.

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Incorrect. She died of from a blocked artery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connie_Kreski

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britgrnz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The girl in the picture was a playboy playmate that was killed by her boyfriend I believe. </div></div>

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Connie Kreski was a true beauty w/ all original parts, her pink Shelby was a '69 Fastback 428 Auto A/C car.
It's Canadian Playmate Dorothy Stratten that was killed by her estranged husband who then offed himself.

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img]
~ Pete


https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...kreskie428.jpg

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Were they FOX bodies back then? Looks like a FOX to me !!!

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I REALLY COULD USE EVERYONE HELP I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR MY OLD 68 R/S CAMARO I SOLD THE CAR OUT OF ATLANTA GEORGIA IN 1993 THIS CAR WAS VERY SPECIAL TO ME THE CAR WAS A GIFT FROM MY MOM AND IN 1993 I SOLD THE CAR TO HELP OUT MY FAMILY TO A GENTLEMAN I BELIEVE WAS IN THE MILITARY AT THE TIME IT WAS A 1968 CAMARO R/S 396 4-SPEED THE CAR WAS WHITE WITH BLUE STRIPES AND HAD A 8-TRACK ON THE CONSOLE I HAVE LOST ALL THE PAPER WORK TO THE CAR WHEN MY HOUSE BURNED DOWN I HAVE BEEN DOWN TO THE DMV AND MY OLD INSURANCE CO. AND THERE SAYING THEY CAN ONLY GO BACK 5 YEARS NOW. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...e0_0001new.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...e1_0002new.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...e4_0005new.jpg
IF ANYONE HAS ANY INFORMATION PLEASE CALL ME AT 770-366-2475 THANKS SHANNON

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Any more details about the gentleman you sold the car to? Active duty? Stationed where?

Was White the factory color?

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His 64/65 Z-11 transplanted Chevelle is unaccounted for as well.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">how about Malcolm Durham's ZL-1? apparently the block is out there..I suspect the car is still out there(along with other ZL-1's) but so chopped up, it would be hard to ever prove. </div></div>

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has this Shelby been located?

http://i58.tinypic.com/1767g0.jpg </div></div>look how the sash is strategically located to cover the naked goods underneath

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I setup a Facebook page to help owners with their quest to find their Lost Muscle Cars.
https://www.facebook.com/lostmusclecars

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Nice idea.

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As some on the board have known, I've begun writing a book with CarTech titled, <span style="font-style: italic">Lost Muscle Cars</span>. The book will feature 45 stories of cars that have fallen off the map or are missing a significant piece of their history. As most of you know, there's no shortage of significant cars still out there to be discovered.

This book will be handled differently than most in that it will actually be the enthusiasts telling the stories as opposed to a singular author trying to tell all 45 stories. The lineup of cars is a who's who of muscle with 4 distinct categories which are:

1) Rare Muscle Cars
2) Celebrity Owned Muscle
3) Race Cars
4) Prototype/Concept/Show Cars

I have a solid list of cars and stories already submitted but am always looking for more. I'm also looking for a candidate willing to write the story of the stolen Merollis Chevrolet ZL1's and the attempts to locate/document them.

Also, I'm short on stories of missing Oldsmobile's, Mercury's &amp; Buick's. Each story is roughly 1,500 words in length and would need 2-3 accompanying images provided with rights granted by the owner/photographer. If you would like to contribute to this book please feel free to inbox me and I can discuss additional details with you. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

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Here is someone who claims that he has Grumpys 68 Camaro and are saying that is the same Car as Grumpys 67 Camaro

http://drag.racersreunion.com/profile/VickiRossBolla

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That would be great if it was the Grump's 68.. But at this point I am not buying it.. Is there a story to how he/she came to own it? All I see is photos of what the car looks like now and them saying; &quot;this is our car 45 years ago..&quot;

Interesting...

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I saw the photos and videos but couldn't find any text with claims.

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

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Funny thing is , for years the car was reported to be in the Pittsburgh area. ....the post refers Vicky from Pgh,Pa.

A few things.....period pics that have been posted here on this site before, show the oblong cut on the wheel openings similar to the posted pics clean stripped.
The Traction bars in actual pics of the car show them as Square tubing long bars in Lakewood Yellow with Traction Action &amp; Decals.
These pixs show crew names.
The wheelie bars (SRD) are identical to the first Vega &amp; 70 Camaro Pro Stocks. The 68, which Jenkins kept for quite awhile never had wheelie bars during '68/'69 ......maybe added in 70 or later...
The #'s matching M22 case is suspect....as his racing trans were heavily modified Pro-Shifted internally.and damaged/rebuilt/modified/upgraded and Extrenely abused. Not impossible, but it could've been shelved at one time.

One thing for sure, judging the pics only...
is....there are alot of signs pointing to this '68 being the car.The Cage is similar to what I've seen in many publications from SS &amp; early Pro Stock days.
The car does have a 12 Bolt and NOT a DANA 60.

To Bad we don't see pics as the car was acquired and stages of stripping......
Maybe she has pics....
Verne , are you able to contact them via the site the pics appeared on ?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Verne_Frantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I saw the photos and videos but couldn't find any text with claims.

Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img] </div></div>

Below the pics are captions referring to GRUMPS CAR....Grump, this and that....777 on 1/4 panel...
Name on Door etc.

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The same person who calls himself Grumpy at this forum http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/sho...s-Toy-IV/page3 says

grumpys 68 camaro



we painted,and installed the wheelie bars today.the only other thing is to install the new brakes and drums on the rear end(didn't get the original rear with the car). The under chassis will be finished. Then some paint work on the body and ready for stickers and name decals . after that a skimpy interior. Dale PS I do have a VIN Match That this is grumpy's 68 car 'the lost car'

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Don't know. I have very little experience posting on that site. I'd have to find &quot;Vicky&quot;. I'll look into it.
Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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Another note:.
I do believe Grumpy's '68 was an original SS 396 375 Horse L78......in White.
Rumors had it as an L89 Aluminum Head car which I believe as false.
Not all of his &quot;Toys&quot; Came from Chevy in White.
I'm pretty sure this may have came from Am on R Smith as a purchased car via Chevrolet and not a &quot;Loaner&quot; car as previous cars were.

He did race this car for years with Many different Engines in both Cast Iron, aluminum heads and Aluminum BB along with Small Blocks much later.
It was a Class Car in at least 2 sanctioning bodies AND a Match Racer where you Run what you Bring.

There are alot of guys on this site with Tons of Documents in pics, knowledge and hands on info if they are willing to chime in.
Albeit, there are some &quot;still looking for his cars&quot; that will remain Mum on any and all Factual info they have.
I'm just a hobbyist interested in the history and speculating this is real or not doesn't come into play unless I was lucky enough to say.... I have the Car !

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Pics from the dogfight forum.



https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...3-grumpy55.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8224-ggggg.jpg

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More

[img]https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...965824374_8091[/img]

[img]https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...965904376_1493[/img]

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Per that last Grumpy book, it is stated that this car was originally yellow and then re-painted White very shortly afterwards. IF this is the original car, it is a very significant car. This would be the car that defeated Ronnie Sox at the very 1st Pro Stock race in Pomona in early 1970.

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When JM did the '69 Camaro book in 1993 he visited with Grumpy to show him the feature on Dave Strickler. Grumpy handed him several folders with paperwork from his race cars. I recall the '69 Camaro paperwork: dealer invoice and window sticker. It was a Dover White L78 and did not come from Ammon R. Smith Chevrolet. They must have had other dealerships.

The Jenkins family probably has much if not all the paperwork for his race cars.

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William,
Yes, the 69 Car was White.
There was a lot of magazine and National Dragster print in 69 on that BB SS CAR.

We are referring to the '68 though.
Some of his previous cars didn't come to him with titles either.......
If it was yellow,then is that Yellow I see on the 68 Cowl panel in the pics posted above ?
Or Sikkens high build priner/sealer ?

I wasn't aware of its Yellow origins. ..but I did know only very few of his cars came factory white.

Another thing to note, that Jenkins was quite frugal and not big on pristine condition unscathed cars.
He was a Racer. Not into &quot;show cars&quot;

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Point being is there is endless speculation on Jenkins cars. We can sit here and BS about them or someone can get in touch with the family and possibly learn the truth. Your call.

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So very true . .

Agree 100%

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I have a friend who tells me he saw Jenkins at Cecil County in the '68 car. My friend has been a &quot;car&quot; guy (in the car business&quot; for quite some time (40 years). Says he watched the Grump do a burnout out, open the door and hang his head down while backing up (I can envision it plain as the nose on my face). Now, what surprises my friend is this: the car was white with yellow door jambs.

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[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cool.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DW31S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a friend who tells me he saw Jenkins at Cecil County in the '68 car. My friend has been a &quot;car&quot; guy (in the car business&quot; for quite some time (40 years). Says he watched the Grump do a burnout out, open the door and hang his head down while backing up (I can envision it plain as the nose on my face). Now, what surprises my friend is this: the car was white with yellow door jambs. </div></div>


You mean like this?

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...y_camaro_1.jpg

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That door jam is yellow.

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Butternut Yellow! Yeah baby!

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Back to post about the newly found Grumpy 68.. Im still not 100% sold its the same car..

Does anyone know for a fact who got the car after Heavy? And the year?

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100% ?
I feel the only way we will know is by VIN. ID.

I live just outside of Pgh and am willing to look into this as deep as I can.

To be continued.

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The problem is that Heavy had several Camaros and there are several stories surrounding each car. Did anyone talk to Heavy before he passed away?

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Well, if it turns out to be the case that the car is indeed &quot;Found&quot; I'll have some updating to do in the book :-)

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Reposting the pic Darrell had in his post. Definitely appears to be Butternut on the cowl of the suspected car.

http://i60.tinypic.com/wrdxxx.jpg

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Any resolution as to whether or not it's the same car?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Day2_69Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another note:.
I do believe Grumpy's '68 was an original SS 396 375 Horse L78......in White.
Rumors had it as an L89 Aluminum Head car which I believe as false.
Not all of his &quot;Toys&quot; Came from Chevy in White.
I'm pretty sure this may have came from Am on R Smith as a purchased car via Chevrolet and not a &quot;Loaner&quot; car as previous cars were.

He did race this car for years with Many different Engines in both Cast Iron, aluminum heads and Aluminum BB along with Small Blocks much later.
It was a Class Car in at least 2 sanctioning bodies AND a Match Racer where you Run what you Bring.

There are alot of guys on this site with Tons of Documents in pics, knowledge and hands on info if they are willing to chime in.
Albeit, there are some &quot;still looking for his cars&quot; that will remain Mum on any and all Factual info they have.
I'm just a hobbyist interested in the history and speculating this is real or not doesn't come into play unless I was lucky enough to say.... I have the Car !
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Vicki is saying that

777 on rear chevy logo and Gr by door handle.note the car started life as a 67 and converted to a 68 by gluing a side marker on Q panel. I have the proof right here.


In that case it shall have 67 VIN

http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u...psincifhe5.jpg

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Jenkins' '67 Camaro still exists largely in original condition. I believe the family he sold it to still owns it. He made an appearance with it at a show a few years before he passed away.

It's still a '67.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Carleen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Vicki is saying that

777 on rear chevy logo and Gr by door handle.note the car started life as a 67 and converted to a 68 by gluing a side marker on Q panel. I have the proof right here.


In that case it shall have 67 VIN
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So it would sorta physically appear as a '68 with a wing window, while actually being a '67??