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mockingbird812 06-04-2013 01:36 AM

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Good stuff! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Xplantdad 06-04-2013 01:37 AM

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Damn, that Camaro just rocks! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

whitetop 06-04-2013 02:07 AM

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Love your Camaro. Very nice and clean.

I always liked this paint scheme..This car is still around and still has it's late 70's paint.It was in Hot Rod last year or so under one of those &quot;where are they now?&quot; articles.

markinnaples 06-04-2013 01:41 PM

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That Camaro has EXACTLY the right wheel and tire combo, especially the rears.

whitetop 06-04-2013 05:50 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That Camaro has EXACTLY the right wheel and tire combo, especially the rears. </div></div>
If the front end was up 2&quot; or so the stance would be right on. Looks like the coil springs broke up front.

markinnaples 06-05-2013 01:58 PM

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I've always wondered why it sagged in the left front as I had that magazine new.

Also, anyone know what the rear offset is on those Cragars? I assume they are 15x8's?

whitetop 06-05-2013 02:21 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've always wondered why it sagged in the left front as I had that magazine new.

Also, anyone know what the rear offset is on those Cragars? I assume they are 15x8's? </div></div>

The rears are 15x8 reversed(deep dish). Approx 2.25-2.50 bs. Cragar only offered two bs back then on all their wheels-standard offset and deep dish..Not much choice like today.

whitetop 06-05-2013 03:33 PM

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http://24.media.tumblr.com/9836351be...10do1_1280.jpg

ktownkid 06-05-2013 04:11 PM

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Last photo...front too low....needs velocity stacks....my 2 cents.

ktownkid [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif[/img]

DW31S 06-06-2013 03:09 PM

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I'm diggin' the Yellow '70 442 W-30 conv. on the magazine cover. If that is/was a real car what's that worth today. I've seen sticks sell north of $200,000.00 recently with numbers and docs.

whitetop 06-06-2013 05:41 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DW31S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm diggin' the Yellow '70 442 W-30 conv. on the magazine cover. If that is/was a real car what's that worth today. I've seen sticks sell north of $200,000.00 recently with numbers and docs. </div></div>

A classmate in HS in the late 70's had blue/white top 70'71 'vert with the fiberglass hood. Original paint car he bought from the original owner. He put Cragars on it and ran it to death and literally beat the crap out of it.. what a shame. Never knew what finally happened to it.

Where all the fiberglass twin scooped cars w-30's??

daverd 06-13-2013 01:30 AM

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I've got one of those fiberglass twin scooped cars in my
Garage.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] the factory hoods fiberglass were made for Oldsmobile
By Owens Corning ....

Hemicolt 10-18-2013 01:53 AM

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Pulled this off the site.

DW31S 11-08-2013 08:52 PM

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Whitetop--- No. That hood could be an option on non-W-30 cars.

Daverd---No teasing allowed---tell us more about what is in your garage.

RichSchmidt 11-22-2013 07:35 PM

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My 73 Firebird has been a street race car since the early 80's. I bought it in 1994 after years of abuse,and kept on abusing it. I don't have any pics of it from back in he day,but I have some ones from the last few years,and the car definatly still has the back in the day vibe. Runs 10's with a mild pump gas 427 BBC and 9's with a little spray. I took it apart in 2010 to redo it and haven't gotten it back together.

Back around 2006

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../saturn004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../saturn005.jpg

Around 2008

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...91/done006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...91/done005.jpg

Yes,it is a functional street AND strip car,going rounds in Super Pro,even in the bracket finals. A real well worn battle ax.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...leGrove2-1.jpg

RichSchmidt 11-22-2013 07:42 PM

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Maybe this inspired me. A Motion shop technician built this one for himself.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...otionbird2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...otionbird1.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...otionbird3.jpg

RichSchmidt 11-22-2013 07:52 PM

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This is my 73 Camaro back about 3 years after I bought it. I wont tell you what year it was taken,just remember that I bought it when I was a junior in high school,and am 42 now. So if you don't want to know that it isn't a 70's pic,do do the math. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...owerslave9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...owerslave3.jpg

Mk IV Muscle 11-25-2013 02:08 AM

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I remember seeing some pics of your 'Bird when it was blue with the Pro Stock scoop and without. Wasn't it a high 8-second ride back then?

RichSchmidt 11-25-2013 02:10 PM

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No,never ran faster then mid 9's,but that was with raw motor gears (4.88's or 4.56's) and a 250 shot. I was almost on the 8000 rpm chip on the big end. I had a 400 hp kit on it,but never tuned it past 250. I would have needed 4.33's or 4.10's to step up past that. The cam at the time was a Crane flat tappet that nosed over at about 6900rpm on motor,and probably shouldnt have been going past about 6600 on the spray.

When I went 9.60's and 70's with the car I had a pair of bowl blended 990 iron heads on it that had a crack between 2 of the valves and lost the exhaust seal. I may have been running on 7 and a half cylinders then. I built the car to run NMCA/NSCA Easy Street which required iron heads,flat tappet cam,plate system,850 carb,8.5# per cube on stock suspention and 11.5&quot; wide DOT tires. At 439 cubes I had to weigh about 3700#,I was 3650 when I ran on the nitrous back then. The combo was the wrong one,as the class highly favored small engines,and in particular small block Fords which worked better within the rules. When one of the small block Fords started running 8.50's it was just insane to think that even my car on a big kit running 8.80's would stand a chance. I decided that maybe drag radial class would be better and the rules were stock oem part number heads and block,3400# for big block,and a single plate system with #4 feed line. That class stepped up real fast,I think I could have done well,but there were issues with the rules. I decided to replace my heads with a set of GMPP L-88 replacement aluminum heads because they are the NHRA legal replacement head for the 074 factory head. My opinion is that they allowed 188 and 990 iron heads as replacement for the old factory installed rectangular iron heads,even though they never technically came on a production car,so why not the L-88 Version. I got an informal nod from one of the tech guys,but after buying and porting the heads,they decided that the heads I had were actually made for GM by Edelbrock,and were made of superior casting material and cores,and were therefore too superior to the original heads to be considered factory replacemnt. Their logic was right,but it still pissed me off. The heads were basically cast in the same molds as the Edelbrock Victor or RPM heads with just a GM part number,and were left rough cast so the ports were the same size as the factory L-88's. They have enough material to port out to the size of a monstor 375cc head just like the Edelbrocks,so since head porting was allowed,it these heads would allow me to port to way beyond what the original L-88 heads could go,vs what the 990 and 188 iron heads which truly could only be ported as far as the factory originals that they were replacing. I wasnt about to spend any money on crack prone 074 heads,or on iron heads that weighed a ton. I just threw in the towel,put a Dominator on the car,took the nitrous off and went electronics class bracket racing as a 10 second car.

Interesting fact,the aluminum heads hit the domes on my SRP pistons,and my SRP pistons are actually for a 496 but I am running them in a 439 with .250&quot; longer rods,so the domes are a little too small for a 439 anyway,so I layed back the chambers in the heads and the compression dropped to 11.2:1. I blew the bottom end up after almost 700 runs with zero maintence(threw 2 H-beam Manley rods),and decided to reuse 6 of the pistons with a new block and crank and rods since the old combo ran so good,I tried a bigger flat tappet cam,and it wiped out before I got the engine broken in,so a friend of mine who raced and built engines for pro stock back in the early 70's had an old GM flat tappet cam from back then laying on the shelf,and gave it to me to try. It was a variation of the old L-88 cam with only .560&quot; lift. I changed the oil and stabbed the new cam in and the car ran 10.49@128 on motor at 3425# with the stock GM cam and pump gas compression(I run race gas for consistency though). This combo is very mild,and is less radical then a real L-88. The engine is so mild mannered it is like driving an every day production car only it makes 600hp. I plan on milling the heads to get it to 12:1 and stabbing a little bigger cam in it with a tunnel ram and 2 660's when I drop it into the 2800# vintage pro stock 70 Camaro that I am restoring and figure that if it doesnt certify I will need to tune it down to run slower then 10.0.

RichSchmidt 11-25-2013 02:24 PM

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You probably saw a pic when it looked like it did back in it's &quot;race car&quot; days. I hung fiberglass doors and front clip on it with lexan windows,and an iron headed small block with 10.5:1 and a mediocre solid roller cam. It weighed about 2900# with me in it,and ran mid 11's. To be fair though,I had a super duper nitrous convertor in it(and no nitrous),and I would later find that the nitrous convertor was way wrong for this combo. I used the same convertor in the car with my big block,and it ran 12.0's(3600#'s though) the first time out with a very dead 1.70 60 foot just like the small block(not spinning though). I did make a few tune up changes to the engine,but nothing drastic,but I swapped out the 5000 stall nitrous convertor for a 5000 stall super stock type unit,and went 6 tenths faster. The small block not only would have probably went 10.90 and a 1.48 60 foot with the better convertor,but probably needed more convertor too. The small block should have been running 10.60's at 2900#,but never got there.

Not a 70's style street car,but it was driven on the street. Notice the low style Camaro spoiler. That was inspired by me seeing the rat bird article above.
circa 1996/97

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../bluebird2.jpg

Or this,when it had a a 355 with ported camel hump heads,flat tappet cam,th-350 with 3500 stall,weighed 3400# and had 4.10's in it,and ran 12.0 on motor,only hitting 3rd as the car approached the stripes. I swapped in 5.13's,and hit my rpm at the stripes and the car went a tenth slower,go figure.It had no roll bar,full stock interior,power brakes,loud stereo,and drove to the track

Circa 1994/95

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...1/oldbird1.jpg

Or like this when I first put the big block in it circa 2001

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../bluebird1.jpg

Mk IV Muscle 11-26-2013 02:57 AM

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Yeah, I remember it with the cowl hood also when it saw a lot of time on those &quot;Unsanctioned&quot; tracks. You know, the ones with the higher payouts back then!

RichSchmidt 11-27-2013 07:10 PM

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Oh,you are from CT!!! Did you ever go out to the Hutch in Mt Vernon,or Hunt's Piont? Have you ever been to any of the unsanctioned tracks in Jersey?

WILDCAT_65 12-22-2013 02:54 PM

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Hi, I'm new to the forum. Is there a place for introduction? Did not find it.

Anyhow. I just found this one over here in Germany. Day3 I would say [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img] Original 72 Trans Am 4 Speed. Found it in a Garage, Was sitting very long, but is in good condition. Engine, trans, Interior all original. Just some funky stuff added to the outside.

http://up.picr.de/15499953hp.jpg

http://up.picr.de/15499954uo.jpg

http://up.picr.de/15499955wy.jpg

http://up.picr.de/15499956di.jpg

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http://up.picr.de/15523503lc.jpg

SS427 12-22-2013 05:42 PM

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Love the hood treatment! We have a 72 Trans Am in the shop that we will be doing a bunch of upgrades to including a 6 speed and front and rear suspension upgrades. It sports a similar customized hood. Check out the F16 control stick. The owner owns an absolutely gorgeous P51D and F4U Corsair as well.

njsteve 12-23-2013 12:00 PM

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Is that a joystick for a shifter? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

The Pontiac guys call that hood &quot;The Poncherello Treatment&quot; after Erik Estrada's character on CHIPS, who drove a modified T/A with a Formula hood with a hole chain-sawed through it for a shaker scoop.

The Boss 12-23-2013 02:59 PM

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As long as we're talking about Trans Am's....cue the background music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk0keMJFLAg

I'm a HUGE fan of cars that look like you just pulled the cover off of them in some old garage after 30 years in hiding and this car more than fits the bill. I had been looking for a 73 Formula to build a SD clone for Pure Stock &amp; F.A.S.T. racing and this car came along at the right time. Unfortunately I'll have to build it for Street Class or just for fun as both classes will not allow me to run it with the &quot;Show Car&quot; paint scheme.

The car is currently running a rebuilt 79 TA TA Pontiac 400 and T-10 but that will be replaced by a 73/74 SD motor sometime in 2014. Heads and a carb are on their way &amp; I haven't yet decided if I'll use a SR 455HO block I already have or a SD block. Intake is still in the air as I have a 72 HO unit like what was on the car during it's show days but I'm leaning towards an LS-2 intake if I can find one for the right price.

Car is outfitted with the ASC sunroof, Recaro seats in NOS condition and a 70's era Blaupunkt Stereo with multiple speakers &amp; remote. The car is only showing 14,000 miles and the enamel paint is in super condition only needing a little work to be perfect. The only change to the exterior of the car will be the addition of SD 455 decals to the shaker and possibly a wheel/tire change to something more towards stock - we'll have to see. The A/C will be removed and a full compliment of period correct Stewart Warner gauges sourced from GTODon's private collection will be filling the holes in the dash - Musclecollector has even promised me a pair of NOS Levis Bell-bottom blues!

I'm hoping to track down the owner who performed the modifications to get more history on the build, when it was done, where it was shown, answer questions about the obvious BMW M1 influances and if there were ever any magazine appearances. As my son said when I texted him the pictures &quot;THAT CAR IS SICK!&quot; I'm real excited, and can't wait to get it!!!

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-img_2215.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0-img_2218.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-img_2217.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...2-img_2216.jpg

markinnaples 12-23-2013 03:14 PM

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That car is great, lol. I'm also a huge fan of the 70's and 80's Street Machine/Street Freaks.

The Boss 12-23-2013 07:25 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That car is great, lol. I'm also a huge fan of the 70's and 80's Street Machine/Street Freaks. </div></div>

You can't help smiling just looking at it - right?

Hemicolt 12-25-2013 01:05 AM

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Another cool Vega.

daverd 12-26-2013 12:57 AM

Re: 1970's Street Machines
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Boss</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That car is great, lol. I'm also a huge fan of the 70's and 80's Street Machine/Street Freaks. </div></div>

You can't help smiling just looking at it - right? </div></div>
So true love the look and set up of your
Firebird !!

WILDCAT_65 12-26-2013 09:26 AM

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Where was that Vega snapped? Must be somewhere in Europe. There is a Opel Rekord D in the back, that was never sold in the US.

COPO_Anders 12-26-2013 09:48 AM

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It´s a pic taken by Hasse Biörck at the very small Vårgårda airfield, not that far from Gothenburg Sweden. I believe that´s what the Vega looked like when it left the United States. They usually raced the cars in U.S. trim the first year then repainted them in the Swedish sponsors colors for the second year.
It has &quot;Leufvéns&quot; decals on it, which was a rather big speedshop over here.

rare4k 12-30-2013 04:44 AM

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I bought and sold this Z in the mid 80s [img:center]http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t...e4k/new014.jpg[/img]

rare4k 12-30-2013 04:44 AM

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[img:center]http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t...e4k/new015.jpg[/img]

rare4k 12-30-2013 09:49 PM

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[img:center]http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t...pub/new015.jpg[/img]

rare4k 12-30-2013 09:49 PM

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[img:center]http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t...pub/new014.jpg[/img]

hknladdr 01-26-2014 10:02 PM

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A 70's pic of my 66
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa430d7aa.jpg

black69 01-28-2014 03:21 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hknladdr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A 70's pic of my 66
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa430d7aa.jpg </div></div>

looking at your picture, were your drums painted white? Cool car.

hknladdr 01-28-2014 02:31 PM

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Thanks, the drums were black, just the sun reflection. Here's another shot.
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...psd30d9364.jpg

chevyman0429 01-28-2014 02:58 PM

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The wheel, tire and stance is killer on that car.


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