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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The bank that is representing this car needs to put more details in the listing - don't you agree? </div></div>

Bergy, I don't agree with you. The bank is just selling a car that it used as collateral from a bad loan. It is up to the buyer to do their due dilligence on a 40 year old, $40,000+ dollar project car with issues. Someone who is going to drop that kind of cake is gonna do their homework or whatever negative they get is their problem.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: enio45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Frank, i have a call with the bank on monday - im not sure yet. </div></div>

Eddie, is there something with the car that the rest of us don't know about that the bank needs to let you know about on Monday? I thought this auction was determined by the highest bidder? Did that change?

Please don't be offended, but I find it strange that you are so hard on a car that you just may end up owning after this auction. I know if I were hot on this car I would be praising it because of all of the cool aspects of it. Here are a couple of your quotes. By the way, could you post some of the pictures?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ill provide some info tomorrow on what i believe is the real picture of the car condition (its not pretty) etc. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im sure whoever is the high bid and did not look at the car would be very very dissapointed. In fact withdrawing from the bid would be a likely scenario.....

Depends on what you want to do with the car - i reconfirmed with the bank - there is no warranty book or protecto - unless the previous owner has it stuffed away somewhere.

And considering the fact its been apart completely - the matching VIN's is a large risk as well.

I would put the car in the mid 30's max...with alot of work and $$ if you want to restore the car back to the original...if not a race car would be a better option.</div></div>

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I see your point Frank - I was just thinking that, if I was the banker, I would try to get every penny that I could to apply toward the outstanding balance on the loan. On the other hand, the outstanding balance may be covered when the bidding hits the reserve (which is all that the bank would care about). Whatever happens, somebody's gonna get a really cool car. If my gatage wasn't already full............

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Bergy, I spent a decade in the car business. When a bank repop's a car they usually send it right to the auction in whatever condition it is in. No prep, no hype, just try to get whatever they can for it. Bankers are not in the car business or have any knowledge of marketing of these cars.

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OK - you're probably right. No one ever accused most bankers of doing what makes business sense! By the way, I just looked at you Yenko Deuce - it's incredibly cool!!!! I was just thinking though - a whole decade in the car business - yikes!

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Bergy, I will add one more thing, it is HIGHLY unusual for a bank to do what this one is doing with this car. I can only guess that the selling bank is a local community bank where these types of decisions can be made locally. Forget ever doing anything like this with one of the large national banks.

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Wow, what a thread..

I understand the shark frenzie thing but wow.. beat the car up, drive price down, get it and hope the price returns.. good luck with that..

all you with a factory numbers matching, born with drivetrain in your yenko please stay seated. others exit? How many 67, 68 yenko camaro's and 69 yenko nova's can prove the engine in their car is the one don installed? Of course, even that one isn't the factory born with so they are not supercars either with this logic.

I get the difference and price will reflect it but to question this cars heritage because the engine isn't there? sick!

What a sweet, worthwile car (even GB? haha), I hope someone with some real balls stands up and stops playing games and provides this car the providence it deserves.

good luck to all serious honest bidders.

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Frank, your PM box is full

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I just cleared out a few.

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The fact is, even if it did turn out to be a rebody(there is no real reason to think it is),the seller is a bank. I would think they would definitely unwind the deal if something like this occured.

To me, itlooks like a great car that needs restoration and some details corrected from a prior restoration.

Jason

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My, this thread gotten folks going. Damn Frankie. You wanted a good 15 page discussion on supercars again. I think we got one.

I have different issues to throw my 2 cents in on, but the first being again that the bank did a very poor job representing this car. To avoid all this speculation about what's there, or not, they should have followed some folks advise, and had it independently inspected to verify what components are there, and those not.
Informed bidding can not take place without full disclosure on the car. Now Ed's the only one who knows for sure what's there, and he had to do it on his own dime. It would be great if he shared that with everybody, but I wouldn't blame him if he didn't.
Now comes a question if the hidden VIN nbrs there. Can't find that out with out taking off the heater box. Now this can get pretty sticky. Most likely it's there, but if it's been changed, the bank now has a real issue as they are selling a bogus car, that has no collateral value, and might have a criminal past.
Again, it would have been in the banks best interest, to have done their due dilligence, including hireing someone with knowledge of what they were looking at, to give them a comprehensive report so people could have an informed bid.
Now...There are a couple for kinds of folks who like deuces. Those who feel that cars are for investing, and those who just like the damn things because they're cool.
This cars for the latter group. Those of you who want investment quality cars, just move along, and let the guys who love deuces have their shot at this one. This one isn't a rolling art piece. This is a (presumed) real deal Yenko deuce. One of 25 in GB that needs a good running LT/1, m21 trans, 4.10 gear in a 12 bolt housing cause you're not gonna find a CBW..ever, and a happy owner who loves her for what she is.
And I only know of 1 deuce, that was ever restamped on the blk. To assume that the restoration progression of a deuce is pre determined to go that way is probably an overstatement.
You don't slip much past Marlin, or folks involved with deuces.
Now personally, I'd like to see the bank stop the auction, go back, and do it right. This has been a friggin circus.
In finishing up the rant, some of the cars that have brought very good money were not nbrs matching cars. And that was known. Anyway you look at it, there's only 175 of them.
Hang in there Frankie, only 10 more pages.

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I just don't understand what the bank did wrong here, I explained above a banks usual approach to selling a repossessed car. It is up to the buyer to do his homework as I already stated. Yes, Ed did his homework and has pics and info, but he is not obligated to share it as he paid for it. With that said, from what little we know about this car, I HIGHLY doubt it is a re-body. I don't know for sure, but I bet the hidden vins are there. There are to many indicators to say otherwise. I said it before and I will say it again, someone has a fair shot at owning a Deuce for once. I agree with you Schonye that the buyer for this car needs to be a car guy and not someone who looks at these cars as strictly an investment. It's anyone's game. Be willing to step up to the plate, due your due diligence, and most of all, don't believe the hype.

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Guezz....this is the most excitment I have seen since the new SYC web site format!!

Its a decent car with paper...depending on what you want to do with the car - determines its value to you. Couple more days and this will be all over.....no more popcorn!!

For the record - with the exception of pics, I have shared ALL of the finding from my inspection.

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I agree with you Ken - lots of posturing here. I smell a great car for a person who wants to drive it. The banker must not be into recovering full value (like Frank says). Powersnipe anyone?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Pritchard</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The ad says 4k miles, but it's probably 104k.</div></div>



Will definitely be interesting to see where this goes, moneywise [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] </div></div>

me too, i'll bet it takes a sharp jump at the end !!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MosportGreen66</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think the cars with non-original drivetrains (motor, trans, rears) should be called mechanical rebodies. </div></div>

WOW! Are you remotely serious?

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Lucky for the individual that ends ups with this car that it is even on ebay.

Since I do work for a bank on foreclosed homes, I speak from experience. This is going to recoup $40k of a loan for them.
No big deal. Outta see what they write off sometimes.

Banks do not claim anything on property disclosure forms when they sell a foreclosed homes for two reasons. One, they don't have to and two, they are not going to be held liable for something they have no knowledge. When you go buy a home, you inspect it or pay an inspector to check it out for you, same goes here.
BTW, they write off houses for more than this if it is going to be a problem for them to get rid of. They just wrote off a $60k loan on a home that had a noted lead base paint problem with the Ohio Dept of Health.

Wish I had the money to buy, but first I'd go inspect it.

Good luck to the one that ends up with it! There is still one that can be had for the drivetrain components.

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Four bidders within $500.00 of each other, reserve met, 15 hrs to go. This may get interesting still. Good Luck !!

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It will be a very exciting final 2 minutes to watch. The drivetrain may be gone but let's face it.......the basic car is still really just a &quot;350 Nova&quot;. It does not have the allure or pricing structure of a &quot;1969 427 Camaro&quot;. That's the reality of it. A date-coded 1970 4-Bolt 350 CID Block(decked) puts you in business, a 1970 Nova Muncie or a freshly stamped over-the-counter unit wouldn't be too hard to score. The &quot;CBW&quot; 12 Bolt is a problem and a VERY difficult item to acquire but I do know of at least one Deuce that has had a &quot;CBI&quot; 2.73 12-Bolt re-stamped into a &quot;W&quot;. Heck, it would be worthwhile to even &quot;re-tube&quot; the passenger side axle tube with the correct date and code. The famous E-Bay '63 SD421 Tempest just had an ENTIRE front clip fabricated from aluminum sheet, so an axle tube should certainly be do-able on this Deuce. Now fortunately, Chevrolet made a fairly decent number of LT-1's in Corvettes and Z-28's so engine components wouldn't be terribly hard to find. They're out there. Now what we do have here is a REAL 1970 Yenko Deuce with vintage photos, a VIN # that is on &quot;the list&quot;, and an ORIGINAL Window Sticker from a great dealer in Chi-town that sponsored John Greenwood's wild &quot;Spirit&quot; Corvettes and even sold a '63 Z-11 Impala back in 1963. Eddie M. should be commended and thanked for paying for and going through the hassle of having somebody inspect this car in person and then sharing the info with everyone for free. My hats tipped to 'ya for that selfless deed and if you go after this car tomorrow, I really hope you get it. Anybody else that thinks the bank didn't do enough to represent the car accurately should just pass on this car if it makes you that uncomfortable and just wait for the next project one to pop up for sale on the 'Bay.....but you may have a VERY LONG wait! This car is the LAST of the great High Horsepower REAL Yenko Supercars of the '67-'70 time frame (I won't even acknowledge Stinger Vegas and Turbo Z's) and an opportunity to step into one, possibly reasonable, doesn't come around very often. Good luck to all and have that itchy trigger finger ready for the &quot;ENTER&quot; button tomorrow!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markjohnson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It will be a very exciting final 2 minutes to watch. The drivetrain may be gone but let's face it.......the basic car is still really just a &quot;350 Nova&quot;. It does not have the allure or pricing structure of a &quot;1969 427 Camaro&quot;. That's the reality of it. A date-coded 1970 4-Bolt 350 CID Block(decked) puts you in business, a 1970 Nova Muncie or a freshly stamped over-the-counter unit wouldn't be too hard to score. The &quot;CBW&quot; 12 Bolt is a problem and a VERY difficult item to acquire but I do know of at least one Deuce that has had a &quot;CBI&quot; 2.73 12-Bolt re-stamped into a &quot;W&quot;. Heck, it would be worthwhile to even &quot;re-tube&quot; the passenger side axle tube with the correct date and code. The famous E-Bay '63 SD421 Tempest just had an ENTIRE front clip fabricated from aluminum sheet, so an axle tube should certainly be do-able on this Deuce. Now fortunately, Chevrolet made a fairly decent number of LT-1's in Corvettes and Z-28's so engine components wouldn't be terribly hard to find. They're out there. Now what we do have here is a REAL 1970 Yenko Deuce with vintage photos, a VIN # that is on &quot;the list&quot;, and an ORIGINAL Window Sticker from a great dealer in Chi-town that sponsored John Greenwood's wild &quot;Spirit&quot; Corvettes and even sold a '63 Z-11 Impala back in 1963. Eddie M. should be commended and thanked for paying for and going through the hassle of having somebody inspect this car in person and then sharing the info with everyone for free. My hats tipped to 'ya for that selfless deed and if you go after this car tomorrow, I really hope you get it. Anybody else that thinks the bank didn't do enough to represent the car accurately should just pass on this car if it makes you that uncomfortable and just wait for the next project one to pop up for sale on the 'Bay.....but you may have a VERY LONG wait! This car is the LAST of the great High Horsepower REAL Yenko Supercars of the '67-'70 time frame (I won't even acknowledge Stinger Vegas and Turbo Z's) and an opportunity to step into one, possibly reasonable, doesn't come around very often. Good luck to all and have that itchy trigger finger ready for the &quot;ENTER&quot; button tomorrow! </div></div>

With that level of insight we're going to nominate you to be on the TV coverage of Barrett-Jackson in February!

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...and special &quot;Thanks&quot; to Marlin for posting this for all of us to see ..and learn more about ..or maybe even purchase...
.....He could have said nothing till it was all over and done with....but no...he chose to share it with all that view this site!

...That's the SuperCar Spirit!

...Good luck to all the bidders

&quot;Thank-You Marlin&quot;

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Thanks for the kind words. I always hope to get another enthusiast into a Deuce - been doing this since 1996!

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Winnig bid $50,050.00

Jumped 10k in the last 35 seconds...

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Anyone from the site?

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Still a super deal IMO...

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Hope someone from this site was the winning bidder....their fingers were sure busy on the keyboard those last few seconds!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camarojoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still a super deal IMO... </div></div>

Me too.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camarojoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still a super deal IMO... </div></div>

Nice deal for both the seller and the buyer IMO. The seller got 25% over his reserve, and the buyer got a good project car - in a great color! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] The price ended just where we thought it would, ($75k'ish for #'s matching, deduct 15% on average for each NM component, build in a 'gotta have it' factor = low $50k's).

If the buyer is a member of this board, please contact me about a potential CBW rear in the NE part of the country.

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<span style="font-style: italic">&quot;If the buyer is a member of this board, please contact me about a potential CBW rear in the NE part of the country.&quot;</span>

Cool, and the kicker is, you can almost be certain the assembly date is correct for any of the 175 Deuces built! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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Usually.... the issue with the '70 rears is similar to the '69 BE rears - the later June built cars frequently have rears dated later the than the TT's scheduled build date. Key term is 'scheduled build date'. Not to worry, nobody would kick a CBW 0618 G2 rear aside just because it didn't line up with an 05D Deuce! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

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Congrats to the owner and I hope he shows up at SCR with it this weekend after picking it up! It's not that far away!

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This will end up being the car we all talk about for awhile. I do hope the new owner comes forward soon. There is still so much information about these cars that I want to learn.

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Hey SYC this was really fun to watch and comment on! Great discussion. I echo the hope that we hear from the new owner soon.

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You bet Bergy - this is the old yenko.net I remember [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] . Keep it going fellas - <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 23pt"><span style="font-style: italic">I need my daily fix!</span></span> </span> I'm not sick or anything mind you [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif[/img] !!
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Congrats to the new owner. Thanks Marlin for the exchange of info on the car and your insight. I now know alot more about these cars. Now i go over to Sammy G's house and talk Deuces... now thats what I'm talking about!!

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Don't worry Marlin, I haven't shown him the Deuce secret hand shake!!! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]
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Marlin,You called me a few years ago about my Wallace Chevrolet Phantom Blue Yenko Duece I use to own. I found the original water pump from this car in a parts box. Bob Festa, [email protected]

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I'll take it! Find anything else? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

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Bob, any chance you've got the original rear axle housing from that Deuce? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]

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Sorry, I wished I had it along with the car , that snapped in half years ago and was replaced with a armor steel carrier 12 bolt. Bob