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luzl78 04-14-2021 09:28 PM

American racing headers in Long Island will make you a perfect set of headers for you that will fit and tuck way up. It’ll cost you about $1,800 but they’re perfect for what you need

thomam 04-15-2021 02:27 AM

Kustom Headers Chevelle Big Block
 
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Thanks to all for the positive feedback!

I will be looking to go to American Racing headers to discuss my options but it will be expensive. To make a set to replace the OK Kustom headers with side pipes in polished stainless steel with be at least 6000 dollars.

I'm not real happy but I have to put on my big boy pants to make the car what it was in 1972. I still have a few options on the table. I want to complete the power train as the M22 goes in next followed by the Hone o drive and drive shaft.

I will try again with the headers and side pipes but I will need miracle as the do not line up to the heads. These pipes ae the biggest things you ever saw 2 1/8 tubes going into a 4 inch collector.

I also posted so positive pictures on the original white E/T scatter shield and clutch and pressure plate.

Regards, Mark

L_e_e 04-15-2021 12:57 PM

I struggled with a set of these side pipes years ago, I cut head flange vertically between the last 2 cylinders, worked great.

thomam 04-20-2021 01:06 AM

Help on Hone O Drive
 
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To all,

I have a hone o drive setup for my chevelle that was part of the original equipment from Motion. The problem I have is that I need to speak to somebody who has one in a car and has understands the workings.

My unit looks great but how do you know if it is in 1:1 gear or reduced in overdrive? How does the shifter work and what happens to the hone itself?

Does the level on the hone go (in or out) or (up and down)?

Is there anyone out there than has real knowledge of a hone?

I have provided two images,, Does the shift lever go in/out or up or down? How does it engage?

Let me know and thanks, mark

JoeC 04-20-2021 05:59 PM

I have seen the Hone manuals on-line

thomam 04-20-2021 07:11 PM

To all,

Well, we got the hone functional as required... Sitting for 49 years caused the engagement shaft to be locked.

Just for the record, the hone shaft goes in/out and not side to side.. All good and onto the installation this week.

thanks

x Baldwin Motion 04-23-2021 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by thomam (Post 1538077)
In response to your question, I have provided some pictures from when the car was purchased from the original owner (Bob) and when it was shipped back to the east coast.

The car was from Long Island and it went out west and remained in storage for approximately 12 years. The car has under 7K in mileage and was never in any bad weather and stored for 49 years.

I also have all the original parts not shown in these pictures (hone o drive, Kustom headers and side pipes, full documentation, valve covers, emblems...)

Enjoy the pictures, Mark

Wow this is great. Good to chat with you Mark.

thomam 04-24-2021 03:10 AM

1972 Motion Chevelle - HEaders/side pipes
 
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I wanted to provide an update as all is not lost with the headers and side pipes that I purchased.

We were able to get the passengers side in with no problem tonight as it took 15 minutes to align. The drives side, not the same as they are really tight and the car needs to be higher to make the proper angle to put in position. I will try next week as the can needs to be higher (working without a lift is real hard).

Let me tell you, these are really tight and hard to put in the car and trying not to scratch anything. REAL PAIN..

I think they look cool the way they are and if all goes well I will use to fire the engine and the they will be chromed..

Wish me luck as I need it on the drivers side..

Regards, Mark

COPO 04-24-2021 04:40 AM

Congrats on getting one side in. Worst case, you can unbolt the motor, raise it up with an engine crane and fit the header in loose and then put everything else back in place. A bit like fitting a jigsaw puzzle together and certainly a 2-3 person job. A pain in the a** for sure, but that's worked for me in the past when I did not have access to a lift.

DougA 04-25-2021 02:36 PM

When I installed headers in my 72 BB Chevelle, on the drivers side, I had to remove clutch linkage, oil filter, steering box and shaft, remove both front motor mount bolts, and jack up the engine as high as I could, to get clearance to fit without bending or dinging. Was still a battle, this was with Hooker Super Comps, 2" tubes.

thomam 04-25-2021 10:48 PM

Doug,

Thanks for the feedback as I hope it is not as extreme.. More to come and wish me luck

mark

DougA 04-26-2021 01:18 AM

Good luck on your restoration. Sure looks like you're on the right path to me.
Just a cool car!

thomam 04-27-2021 01:48 AM

Good news! I was able to put in place the drivers side headers and sidepipes... These are the biggest tighest headers in the world. I had to get the car up about 4-5 inches higher to support the proper angle. I think they only make by a hair on all areas.

My next step is to get them chromed and them back on the car. Thanks to all who supported this effort.

Regards, Mark

thomam 05-04-2021 03:50 AM

1972 Motion Performance Chevelle chromed headers
 
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I have provided some pictures of one header that is currently chromed. The work to get to this point has been very difficult from fitting to chroming.

Anyway, please see some updated pictures as more to come in the next several weeks.

Regards, Mark

Postsedan 05-04-2021 10:37 AM

All your hard work is paying off. The end result will be nothing short of spectacular :)

Thanks for sharing.....keep posted these awesome pictures.

Dan

JoeC 05-04-2021 11:55 AM

thanks for the updates

are those the original Motion valve covers that came on the car?

thomam 05-04-2021 12:34 PM

Yes the original covers

thomam 05-04-2021 01:05 PM

Dan

Thanks for the feedback! I watched the video and beautiful cars. I also have a frost green z/28 since 1975 as it was my high school car. The color today is different and not seen much

Regards, Mark

thomam 05-07-2021 03:01 AM

1972 Motion Performance Chevelle May Update
 
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It has been a very successful week putting the car together. We received and installed the drivers side chrome header. I can tell you that everything fit as required and it took much effort to make everything align. The steering column has 1/8 of an inch clearance from the header.

The cooling system and the complete drivetrain has been installed. Over the next week or so, the remaining exhaust system will be completed, engine electrical wires connected and remaining engine parts will be installed.

I have provided some updated pictures to so the overall progress. On 5/11/2021, we were able to fit the passenger header and side pipe. Now the fun comes to ensure everything is tight and aligned..

Enjoy, Mark

R68GTO 05-07-2021 09:53 AM

Daaauum! That looks great!

big gear head 05-07-2021 11:58 AM

I agree, looks great.

thomam 05-07-2021 12:18 PM

Thanks for the note! The support of the team has assisted me with parts and recommendations... Great website and supporters..

thomam 05-30-2021 01:18 PM

1972 Baldwin Motion - Restoration Final Stage
 
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To all,

The progress on the car has been going very well as it comes together. It has been a very hard restoration working out of a single garage without the use of a lift. I have been very fortunate to have many friends assisting and my master mechanic Tom who has provided the guidance and the major effort in this restoration.

As mentioned earlier in prior posts, this 1972 Chevelle has a long history in our town and it never lost a street race according to its prior owner Bob. Again, it is an honor to now to own this 1 or 1 historical Motion car which is now put back together as it was in 1972.

At this time, the car has the following activities that need to be completed and prior to taking if for a test ride:
• Complete the wiring under the hood
• Install the Cal Custom fly eye air cleaner
• Install the chrome Kustom side pipes and internal in line mufflers
• Purchase 12 gallons of 110 leaded race fuel
• Fill the cooling system and verify all other fluids
• Install the rear sway bar
• Install the hood
• Detail the car body


I have to mention that this car had the support of many individuals including my wife Karen who suggested I purchase the car. I want to personally thank Tom, Rick, Charlie, Karen, my three sons, Charlie (nova), Tony and many others including Bob and Cindy the prior owners for providing me with this opportunity.

So, in the next two weeks we should be completed with this restoration. Wish me luck as we step through the next phases of confirming every part and process to get this “Motion” back on the road where it belongs for the public to see.

Regards, Mark

Dave Rifkin 05-30-2021 06:41 PM

Such a bad ass looking car; talk about having the perfect stance.

thomam 06-06-2021 04:16 AM

1972 Baldwin Motion Update – Engine First Start
 
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To all,

After fueling the Chevelle with 18 gallons of 110 octane racing gas and confirming a final check, it was time to start the car today. I want to thank my head mechanic Tom as well as Rick and Karen for their effforts in making today possible.

After 7 months, the car fired up without a problem and the engine performed as expected. I wanted to share the pictures for your reference.

Regards, Mark

R68GTO 06-06-2021 10:24 AM

Great progress! Those side pipes look killer.

luzl78 06-06-2021 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomam (Post 1550758)
To all,

After fueling the Chevelle with 18 gallons of 110 octane racing gas and confirming a final check, it was time to start the car today. I want to thank my head mechanic Tom as well as Rick and Karen for their effforts in making today possible.

After 7 months, the car fired up without a problem and the engine performed as expected. I wanted to share the pictures for your reference.

Regards, Mark

we need a video of the car running!

thomam 06-06-2021 05:31 PM

I will try to upload a video,,, The upload feature did not support it.. More to come, Mark

thomam 06-06-2021 06:15 PM

1972 Baldwin Motion Chevelle engine first start video
 
As requested, I added a youtube video of the first start of the 454 ZLX engine. I will add others as I just figured this out..

Enjoy, Mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNKHohmB5Kg

Sound of the side pipes with Hooker inserts (21003HKR)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUkLQb-j3DI

mr.4speed 06-06-2021 06:16 PM

looks awesome! Needs Bias Ply tires on it at some point

Xplantdad 06-06-2021 07:26 PM

Video :)



thomam 06-13-2021 03:59 AM

1972 Baldwin Motion Project Update (6-12-2021)
 
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The mechanical work has been completed on the car and I want to personally thank the team of family and friends who have assisted in this car restoration. The work effort, and professional guidance I received from my master mechanic (Tom) can never be understated as well my wife (Karen) who recommended that I take this project on even though she was fighting cancer in the middle of a pandemic.

I have many others to thank for allowing me to move this effort forward (Rick, Charlie the tuna, Tony, Charlie Nova aka “the hat”, my children (Ryan, Matthew, Greg), Scott, Steve, Brian, Patti, Cheryl, Clinton and the prior owners (Bob & Cindy) for providing me with this opportunity.

At this point, the car is basically completed except for a final buffing, misc. cleaning and test drives to get any bugs out and to confirm overall safety. I also want to thank the readers who have provided me with direction on parts and feedback.

I have provided a few pictures that will outline the professional work and team work which contributed to the restoration to this historical car.

Thanks to all!

Regards, Mark

big gear head 06-13-2021 01:14 PM

Great job. It sure reminds me of my '72 SS 454. That's the car that I had when I turned 16 and started driving. Any change you could bring it to SCR?

thomam 06-13-2021 11:59 PM

Scr ?
 
What is scr and where is it

big gear head 06-14-2021 12:21 AM

Super Car Reunion at Bowling Green KY. There is a special section right here on this sight just for the SCR. https://www.yenko.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=80
Also a Facebook page with lots of pictures from past years. https://www.facebook.com/supercarreunion

1972convss454 06-14-2021 01:30 PM

Car looks Awesome!
I may have asked this before but was the car originally painted Black? Black was not an option in 72 unless special ordered. Would love to see this car in person. It has to be the Ultimate 72 Chevelle.

GotGrunt 06-14-2021 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1972convss454 (Post 1551836)
Car looks Awesome!
I may have asked this before but was the car originally painted Black? Black was not an option in 72 unless special ordered. Would love to see this car in person. It has to be the Ultimate 72 Chevelle.

I had always assumed it was midnight bronze which sometimes looks black unless it’s in direct sunlight. If it is special order black, that just makes it so much cooler.

thomam 06-16-2021 02:15 AM

The car was originally midnight bronze and was painted black as that was the color the owner wanted but it was not available in September 1971. It was unfortunate that black was unavailable at the time of the order but it will be midnight bronze someday when it needs a full paint job.

Regards, Mark

thomam 06-16-2021 02:28 AM

1972 Baldwin Motion - On the Road
 
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Today, I had the pleasure to take the car for a ride and it is a beast and much more than I ever had in any automobile. It is very strong and I still need to test all the new parts and to ensure all is working as required.

At this point, I only have 5 miles on the car so I need to learn how it operates.

I have the car buffed out and added the Motion Emblems to make it offical on the body. I will provide a driving video when I can you can hear the M22 wine and the sidepipes doing their thing..

Enjoy, Mark

Xplantdad 06-16-2021 04:50 PM

Very cool!!:biggthumpup::worship::biggthumpup::worship: :biggthumpup:


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