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JAD 09-22-2009 07:05 PM

Re: 1970 Dick Harrell 454 Camaro Survivor for Sale
 
Nice car Tony!!!I love unrestored cars.

TLucas 09-23-2009 01:26 AM

Re: 1970 Dick Harrell 454 Camaro Survivor for Sale
 
Yes the site helped me buy the car. You guys wore me down and the history of the car is spectacular.
Thanks everyone!

Salvatore 09-23-2009 01:37 AM

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Good going! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

COPO 70 RS/Z28 09-23-2009 05:53 PM

Re: 1970 Dick Harrell 454 Camaro Survivor for Sale
 
If you need a place to store it, I have a spot at my place....

JUST LEAVE THE KEYS https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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SeattleCarGuy 09-23-2009 07:09 PM

Re: 1970 Dick Harrell 454 Camaro Survivor for Sale
 
Thanks Tony, and thank you to everyone on the site for your comments. I am glad the car has found a great home. - Paul

Charley Lillard 09-26-2009 11:19 PM

Re: 1970 Dick Harrell 454 Camaro Survivor for Sale
 
I heard from the Harrell camp today... They have no problem with this car because it was sold as a Harrell car. The problem they have is with licensed drag cars and their position is if the name is on the car and there is a accident at the drag strip where someone gets hurt, every name on the car gets sued. The Howie car used the Harrell name as a licensee for drag racing back then and when the car sold to a new owner it was no longer licensed. I personally think that all this comes with the territory when you trademark a name for commerce. I don't know all the facts on the Howie car history to know what is factual and what isn't and I don't care enough to read up on it but I do believe that every name on the car will get sued. Maybe the license fee goes for Insurance or maybe it doesn't. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Kim_Howie 09-27-2009 03:51 AM

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There are always two and maybe three sides to every story. Being a Insurance Agent for 36 years I think that dog their showing, just won't hunt!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

sYc 09-27-2009 05:54 AM

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Hum..Anyobody can be sued, but with out something connecting Howie's car to Val, such as a licensing agreement, no liability on her part. If this were not true, then Helen Gibb is liable if Lil Hoss or Howie's car, or another Gibb cars crashes, Diane (Mrs. Ronnie) Sox is laible if one of Sox/Martin cars crash, the Bob Hamilton family is liable if I crash Red Alert? I don't think so. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

Steve Shauger 09-27-2009 07:01 AM

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I have some swamp land for ya Charley... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

njsteve 09-27-2009 03:04 PM

Re: 1970 Dick Harrell 454 Camaro Survivor for Sale
 
And of course, GM could be sued since a "Chevrolet" emblem is on the car.

Charley Lillard 09-27-2009 05:11 PM

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LOL...

markjohnson 09-27-2009 06:09 PM

Re: 1970 Dick Harrell 454 Camaro Survivor for Sale
 
Hey, wasn't it Colt that ceased hangun production entirely when some state's court system ruled them liable for wrongful death because they produced the gun?

Kim_Howie 09-27-2009 06:50 PM

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Colt is still in production. And still makes pistols.

Steven J 09-27-2009 07:14 PM

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Too many lawyers out there trying to come up with a way to make big money.

Colt info;

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Shot+D...+in-a061242179

Chevy454 09-28-2009 02:07 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
The problem they have is with licensed drag cars and their position is if the name is on the car and there is a accident at the drag strip where someone gets hurt, every name on the car gets sued. The Howie car used the Harrell name as a licensee for drag racing back then and when the car sold to a new owner it was no longer licensed. I personally think that all this comes with the territory when you trademark a name for commerce. I don't know all the facts on the Howie car history to know what is factual and what isn't and I don't care enough to read up on it but I do believe that every name on the car will get sued. Maybe the license fee goes for Insurance or maybe it doesn't.

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When Earnhardt was killed, did the "Mr. Goodwrench" family have to pony up any money? Or how about "the King" from the Burger King sponsor name? How about any of the other hundreds of stickers on that car? Survey says, "No". Liability (financial) comes from negligence, so unless Dick Harrell is selling booby-trapped parts from the grave I'd say Val & company have nothing to worry about...

There's already a precedent for lawsuits stemming from racing accidents that are *without* negligence (Lori Johns vs. Budweiser/Bernstein, dismissed) and *with* negligence (Julie Russell vs. NHRA/Goodyear, settlement)...it's all common sense. Just because there's a lack of lettering doesn't keep them from being named in a suit, or vice versa.

I do believe that Kool-Aid has soured, so I sure hope no one is drinking it... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

markjohnson 09-28-2009 07:57 AM

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Well, according to that link posted above, Colt did cease Civilian handgun production. But thanks again Howie, for once again doing your damndest to poke holes or find fault with anything I post lately.

TimG 09-28-2009 06:19 PM

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Sonsors with names on the cars do have an exposure. It is much more of an exposure if they provide renumeration to the vehicle owner.
If there were a catastrophic accident with death or injury of a bystander or a group of bystanders, you can bet that a prominent name on a nastalgic drag race vehicle would be at risk.

There may not be a successful suit, but there may be a suit none the less that may demand some type of defense. I call it "being dragged through the mud".

Chevy454 09-28-2009 06:19 PM

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Well, according to that link posted above, Colt did cease Civilian handgun production. But thanks again Howie, for once again doing your damndest to poke holes or find fault with anything I post lately.

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Actually, it was Steve that posted the link, Howie simply said Colt "still makes pistols", which is correct. From the link above: "The company also continues to make a few expensive handguns for collectors and rodeo performers."

Kim_Howie 09-28-2009 06:20 PM

Re: 1970 Dick Harrell 454 Camaro Survivor for Sale
 
http://www.coltsmfg.com/ CHECK THE FACTS MARK

sYc 09-28-2009 06:32 PM

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[ QUOTE ]

Sonsors with names on the cars do have an exposure. It is much more of an exposure if they provide renumeration to the vehicle owner.
If there were a catastrophic accident with death or injury of a bystander or a group of bystanders, you can bet that a prominent name on a nastalgic drag race vehicle would be at risk.

There may not be a successful suit, but there may be a suit none the less that may demand some type of defense. I call it "being dragged through the mud".

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Tim, I agree..a sponsor could be dragged through the mud, but in the case of vintage racecars, we are not talking sponsors. None of the names on Howie's car are sponsoring him. Now if Valerie issues a licensing agreement, then possibly liable. If so concerned about being sued, then she would be better served leaving folks lone instead of jumping in and trying to make a buck off of her dad's name.

Kim_Howie 09-28-2009 06:37 PM

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Tim where is the sponsorship in my car??
FRED GIBB sponsored Dick Harrell. Not the other way around.
The bottom line is Ms.Harrell HAS NO ties to my car PERIOD.
Now if she has me sign a lic agreement, now she is tied to the car. Anybody can put Dick Harrell on any car they want & if they wreck it, the 3rd party can't bring her in to the law suit!! B.S. She can't police the world. If somebody put the name on their car & she knows nothing about it, how can she be liable?? I am done!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

TimG 09-29-2009 02:19 AM

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I'm not an attorney, but sometimes I think too much like one. I insure companies that transport fuel all over Texas and the word “oil” is usually on the side of all my customers’ vehicles. I see so many lawsuits come across my desk I’m always thinking of the liability end of things. I agree, there is probably no liability exposure for you or your car, Kim.


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