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PeteLeathersac 11-30-2008 01:53 AM

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The original owner ding in the door and more story takes this way beyond the amazing car itself..
Like art this is a pure example of the remains of genuine Musclecar Americana!.

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~ Pete

Tommy 11-30-2008 02:10 AM

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Beautiful Camaro https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif.


Tommy https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

47Hammer 11-30-2008 02:51 AM

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Cooler than cool...Considering the history, low mileage and nothing other than the battery ever having been changed, does this car now become the 1970 Z/28 "Benchmark Car" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

I think if you photographed this car bumper to bumper, part by part and put it in a book it would become a best seller! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Will you adopt me? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

Lucky Bum!!

scuncio 11-30-2008 03:02 AM

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That car is something else Charley...you're the right guy to have it.

Salvatore 11-30-2008 03:13 AM

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You California guys are killin me! You got the weather and now your stealin all the cars! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif....... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

CC Rider 11-30-2008 03:29 AM

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Congrats Charley! It's beauty! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif

Charley Lillard 11-30-2008 03:33 AM

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...E status tenured now. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif
Does Norman remember,or is the F-T salesmans name mentioned on any of the paperwork by chance?

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Salesman's name was Nelson Graspo.

bergy 11-30-2008 03:35 AM

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Incredible. I love the great stories behind these cars. When was it last run?

DarrenX33 11-30-2008 03:35 AM

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does this car now become the 1970 Z/28 "Benchmark Car"

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YES!

Charley Lillard 11-30-2008 03:36 AM

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Jason is taking some detail pics now. It has heavy undercoat that is even on the alt, smog pump etc.

JoeG 11-30-2008 03:38 AM

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That's actually pretty https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif--a Twilight Zone moment.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

92646 11-30-2008 04:07 AM

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The title says it all "simply the best" is so right. Charley have you noticed most of your Camaros are Rally Sports?
Mark Sheppard

Verne_Frantz 11-30-2008 04:13 AM

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Congrats Chill. I like to see the new interest in Un-Restored, original cars. Not only are they a rare piece of history that's been "preserved", they are the "benchmarks" for other cars to be restored by. Their intrinsic value for the future of the hobby is far greater than their current market value. Dollars can not quantify the true value of a car like that..... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

Verne https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

Charley Lillard 11-30-2008 04:25 AM

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I talked briefly with Norman today. He worked in St Charles and was driving a 69 Impala Custom to work and would drive by Fencl-Tufo every day. He had driven a friends 70 Z and liked it. One4 day as he is driving home from work he sees this car on the lot and traded in his Impala on it. The inside rear view mirror is missng and Norman said it was like that when he got it and he never bothered to go back and bug them about it. There is a area behind the right rear wheel that has been painted on but Norman said he had never noticed it and he never painted on it. Jason said it is lacquer so we are guessing it was done at the factory or at the dealer before Norman bought it.

Charley Lillard 11-30-2008 04:28 AM

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Incredible. I love the great stories behind these cars. When was it last run?

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It was last run in 73. Norman and both his brothers stated that nobody has ever sat in the back seat and the passenger front was only sat in a couple times.

Bill Pritchard 11-30-2008 05:50 AM

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Simply amazing.....congrats Charley https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

KLars1 11-30-2008 08:35 AM

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Why did Norman let it go after all these years?

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WOW, that is incredible.

I'm also interested in what prompted him to sell after all of these years.

Rixls6 11-30-2008 04:40 PM

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What a find. It's incredible a car can sit that long unmolested. Love it. Can't wait to see some of the detail pics.

BARN FIND 11-30-2008 05:34 PM

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My question is, how did he keep his kids from taking it for a joy ride? (I know I would have)

Ricks72Z28 11-30-2008 06:16 PM

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Charlie, Congratulations can't wait to see the rest of the pictures.

Kim_Howie 11-30-2008 06:16 PM

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They don't get any better than this. Great find. Known Jason 20 years, bought my first 69z from him. Just a kid then. Congrates Chas. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Charley Lillard 11-30-2008 06:30 PM

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The hard part is convincing Jason that it is MY car and not his car. This will be the first time a survivor hits his place and then leaves. He knows cars but his photo emailing skills suck. But he is working on it.

Dave Rifkin 11-30-2008 07:41 PM

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So is the car going to get any exercise or is it going to stay as is? It would be a shame not to drive it a little bit.

Stefano 11-30-2008 08:17 PM

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Norm read a magazine Article, in which we were mentioned. He contacted us, because of that article. He decided to sell the Camaro since his research had shown that an original owner Survivor Camaro, might be a desirable and collectable Camaro.

He had called several appraisal sources prior. We were also contaced about the Camaro from one of those companies.

His quote to me regarding selling the Camaro was that, he was getting older and that you never know what might happen to him or the Camaro. He wanted to make certain that it went to a good home.

TimG 11-30-2008 08:23 PM

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Charley, are you going to remove the undercoating? If so, please describe the procedure to do this. I've got the same issue on a car and I'm gearing up for this as a winter project. I know that it is beautiful underneath the undercoating.

Charley Lillard 11-30-2008 08:36 PM

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No. The undercoating is part of the history of the car. No reason to tamper with it. If the car had been messed with I would do it but this thing deserves to be left alone.

I have removed undercoating on other cars by using white gas, kerosene, WD40 etc to soften it up and then a high pressure steam cleaner. Any petroleum distillate will soften it.

TimG 11-30-2008 08:53 PM

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OK, I agree with that, but don't you think that the "TG" on that 1970 plate means it needs to come to Austin to live..... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

Charley Lillard 11-30-2008 09:35 PM

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trying to post pics but the site is telling me my 566x425 pics are too big. They are small...

x Baldwin Motion 11-30-2008 09:59 PM

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trying to post pics but the site is telling me my 566x425 pics are too big. They are small...

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif there has got to be a local Geek Squad ready to respond https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Charley Lillard 11-30-2008 10:00 PM

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emailing to Seymour..He will post em.

Stefano 11-30-2008 10:11 PM

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OK, I agree with that, but don't you think that the "TG" on that 1970 plate means it needs to come to Austin to live..... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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Tim,
The car came with both original plates from 1970. Charley only gets one?

Born30YrsLate 11-30-2008 10:13 PM

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Beautiful car Charley...nice work to all involved!

Jacsey 70Z 11-30-2008 10:55 PM

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Here you go Charlie, Looks Great!!


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WOW, That's it Thanks Charlie and sYc.

firstgenaddict 11-30-2008 10:56 PM

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Simply awesome... can't wait to see the details... are you gonna bottle the original air for reuse or to sell on Ebay?

DarrenX33 11-30-2008 11:09 PM

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Charley! Your car is 61 VINs from mine!

I'm 511596. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

Let's see photos of the big 5 on the VIN stamped motor and tranny.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Charley Lillard 11-30-2008 11:10 PM

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Notice there is still paint on the door latch grease. And all the undercoating on the smog pump, fuel pump, valve cover. One pics shows the stainless trim where the hood fender and door meet. The hood stainless hits the fender stainless. The fender should have been shimmed out more.

firstgenaddict 11-30-2008 11:18 PM

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That is the coolest freaking thing I have seen in quite a while! I could study the photos for hours...
NICE SCORE Charlie!!!

Mr70 11-30-2008 11:20 PM

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Look how the wiper fluid jar hasn't yellowed at all.
If that isn't another testament to how little sunlight/engine compt. heat this car has never seen,I don't know what is.
Could somebody <u>PLEASE</u> take a close up picture of the CW p/s mounted ID tag on this TH400..

Jacsey 70Z 11-30-2008 11:22 PM

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Ya looks like Zebart had a field day, I like the way the stripes wrap at latch area.
Very nice

firstgenaddict 11-30-2008 11:23 PM

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Notice there is still paint on the door latch grease. And all the undercoating on the smog pump, fuel pump, valve cover. One pics shows the stainless trim where the hood fender and door meet. The hood stainless hits the fender stainless. The fender should have been shimmed out more.

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The 50k mile 69 Z we are doing now still had the painted grease deep in the door latch assems when I was cleaning them I realized the latches came greased with the white lithium bar grease and the grease was simply painted over, makes sense...


Is there any over spray on the valve cover edges?


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