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I have a dilemma on what engine to put in the car. Sitting here is a nice experimental aluminum small block that would be perfect in the Z. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/361038-tn_001.JPG
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. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/361039-tn_003.JPG block looks like a bowtie block but has no dates, a normal size oil filter instead of a small diameter, engineering measurement marks all over it.
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. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/361043-tn_006.JPG heads also have no dates on them.
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. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/361048-tn_013.JPG 0- intake has a 12-9-65 date. GM experimental stuff had 0 part #'s.
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Since the original engine is gone the CE would be okay, but since you have an experimental AL laying around (don't we all? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...arleySucks.gif ), I would go with that one.
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Charley what is the story on the aluminum motor? It looks like it has bolt holes on the ends of heads for the later style alt. brackets. How about running this with a very early cross ram and a cross ram cowl plenum air cleaner set up? I do not see how this could be any tricker. It would be like the semi hemi yellow 69 Z/28.
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Is the AL X-motor a 302?
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Aluminum parts were acquired by someone in about 72. Maybe they fell off a truck ? I was told Jack Podell also had a set of aluminum heads like these that he used to have for sale. They also had the bolt holes but were from the 60's. Mark..Would you now hook me up with a early crossram and early crossram cowl plenum ? It is starting to sound like my old 67 RS Z with the Xram.
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Damn Charley!!!!
I can find stuff, but YOU... You can really find things I havent seen before!!!! Would LUV a nice detailed write up of that motor!!! No 0-code for that block. Is it dated???? Any similarities to the 0-code Can-Am blocks, etc that were prototyped??? That's a first for me on a SBC Intake with this coding! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif |
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No dates on the block, just the 366298 #. The block was virtually a raw casting with only pan rails machined. Apparently when a block is machined they start by doing the pan rails and reference everything else from there. The block has traveled all over the country having stuff done to it. It is a very rare Dude.
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Anything similar to the ZL1???
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It looks like a GM bowtie block and has a bowtie but they use a small diameter truck type oil filter. This is cast for a full size one.
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Seeing as it's original block is long gone,I would opt the experimental SB alloy & use that cowl plenum AC.That would be killer!
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I overheard a guy at work (I work for GM) talking about aluminum SBC blocks that were cast in the late 60s for the Chaparral cars. In fact he built a gorgeous replica with one of these GM aluminum SBCs, I think a 331 or 377 or some other high winding deal. Will see if I can get any more info out of him.
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Charley it would be pretty cool if you ran the alum motor on a dyno with the correct '67 single intake and carb and played with it on the dyno and see what you get out of it tuneing.
then do the same with the CE motor you have with correct iron heads singe intake and carb and see which motor pulls the best...that would make for a neat story and probably get picked up by one of the magazines. oh and lots of vids in the dyno room https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif. now get back to work slacker. & run a single carb on the car, everyone has a cross ram these days..whoopeee. ps, the seats have not arrived..what gives?? B. |
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Everyone has a crossram but not a cowl plenum crossram.
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ok..send the 610 with the seats also https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif
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Charley, it is odd but I came accross 3 crossrams with no part numbers that I was told were for 67 Z/28 when I was looking for a 69 Z/28. I have only seen crossram cowl plenum air cleaners in pictures. I understood most of them were modified for mor airflow because they were designed for a restrictive air cleaner. Were the original ones made out of plastic or steel?
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Orig ones were plastic with a steel lid. Early ones had a short very restrictive Purolator filter. Later ones had a taller filter and plastic housing. I had a later one on a red 67 RS Z but don't have much in the way of pics and the guy won't sell me the car back.
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... and the guy won't sell me the car back.
The fan,the clutch,now the car you wish you had back. Stop selling everything you never wanted to in the first place. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif |
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Did someone say Can am ? I am looking for a 68 Yenko project to put this in. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/361104-tn_001.JPG
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Did someone say Can am ? I am looking for a 68 Yenko project to put this in. [/ QUOTE ] https://www.yenko.net/attachments/361...knownyenko.jpg It'll come around sooner or later. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif |
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With the stock market crashing everybody is buying gold but Charley is buying aluminum.
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Did I mention earlier how much I hate Charley? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/crazy.gif
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Did someone say Can am ? I am looking for a 68 Yenko project to put this in. [/ QUOTE ] No luck making a deal with the guy that is importing the 68 Yenko project?? |
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I haven't heard from him. That Yenko would look perfect sitting next to the 67 Z.
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Orig ones were plastic with a steel lid. Early ones had a short very restrictive Purolator filter. Later ones had a taller filter and plastic housing. I had a later one on a red 67 RS Z but don't have much in the way of pics and the guy won't sell me the car back. [/ QUOTE ] Here are some pics of your old car's engine: http://67z28.net/gallery/albums/67%2...0RS/1967Z5.jpg http://67z28.net/gallery/albums/67%2...RS/headera.jpg |
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ahhh, thanks. That was the taller AFP666 element with the taller housing.
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I was just about to comment that I should look for a fabricated air cleaner like what I have seen in pictures of some of the Penske cars. But after those last pictures you can not beat the factory set up. Talk about the ultimate 67 Z/28 it had heater delete also.
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