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Verne_Frantz 07-19-2008 06:03 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
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I have the info from the trim tag. What am I looking for?

Bob

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JAYR, It would help to know the build date of the body (upper left hand corner) and a ACC codes.
Hopefully others who are inquiring will be able to provide casting # and date from the block.

Verne https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

Verne_Frantz 07-19-2008 06:11 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
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Vin 304370141309

A Sept engine and March build....possible but doubtful?.

If the seller truly bought his own story, wouldn't you think he'd be happy to state how he arrived at such a conclusion also back up his claims w/ castings and stampings in the ad...not say 'he believes' and mention things like how it's been 'thoroughly inspected' (by his own people)?.

Also if truly belived, why goof it up w/ added accessories and disc brakes during resto?.

If he'd skipped the Copo story the car may've even sold by now...or reached more than the 20 thou it did on eBay?.

I vote https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif!!!

This gem aside, what year was the Copo process first known to have been used anyway?.

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~ Pete

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Pete,
I agree; that VIN would be a mid-March Oakland build.
I have '58 COPOs on record. As for when they began that process, my files don't include any cars prior to '58..

Verne https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

BTW, The Oakland plant also built trucks that year, so there would be plenty of 283s around. It's doubtful a Sept engine would find it's way in a March car.

Paul_S 07-19-2008 06:24 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
Well, Chevy II/Nova did not use style numbers to designate V8 cars until '65. If that is a Nova block it will be a flint casting/assembly. I have seen the RPO in the '63 assembly manual for V8s and yes, it lists 4-spd also. I don't remember it off the top of my head right now though. -I'll have to look. My bet is that it's just a very nice SS that had its L6 swapped for a '64 Nova 283. Any accessories listed on the data plate will not draw a conclusion to it being a V8 car unless it's coded for a 4-spd.

wagonman 07-19-2008 10:18 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
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Mark,
'63 283s were commonly available with 3-spds so the hole for the Z-bar pivot should be on all of them.
As for COPO, a look at the cowl tag should provide an answer.

Verne https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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yes but a #194 casting early 63 nova 283 would have a chevyII specific clutch pivot hole location.............

all other 283 blocks are different!!!

wagonman 07-19-2008 10:19 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
quite simply put..

there are zero 63 chevyII's with a factory installed V8

also vin's were not installed on 1963 chevyII power plants...

just engine suffix code and assy date...

wagonman 07-19-2008 10:22 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
yeah......what frame?

wagonman 07-19-2008 10:26 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
nice car though.................

JayR 07-19-2008 10:40 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
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JAYR, It would help to know the build date of the body (upper left hand corner) and a ACC codes.
Hopefully others who are inquiring will be able to provide casting # and date from the block.
Verne https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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Trim Tag Info:

03C

STYLE 63-0437 BODY OA15227

TRIM 7-702 13 PAINT 922

ACC W P X M35 2455

Bob

x Baldwin Motion 07-19-2008 02:01 PM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
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quite simply put..

there are zero 63 chevyII's with a factory installed V8

also vin's were not installed on 1963 chevyII power plants...

just engine suffix code and assy date...

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couldn't you get a trim tag and build sheet for this? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Verne_Frantz 07-19-2008 06:40 PM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
Bob,
It is not common at all to see a number like the 2455 on the ACC line. It is not a typical cryptic option code. From my experience with these cars, I"d say that is a COPO or F&SO order number.

As I stated before, information compiled by CHEVROLET CORP indicates 3 V8 '63 Chevy-IIs were factory built. Those are real documents.

Verne https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif


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