Re: GM announces the 2009 Camaro
 

The rumor is yes.

Re: GM announces the 2009 Camaro
 

How disappointing would it be if GM gets cold feet and scraps the Camaro before the first fiberglass panel is molded? Guess i'll have to go to Joel with the kids college funds https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Re: GM announces the 2009 Camaro
 

I just looked at the new Camaro picture again. Hoping to change my opinion...nope. Man that thing is butt-ugly.
doesn't look enough retro for retro, and as a new style is not fresh at all it looks dated and cobbled together.

Maybe GM can borrow the guy who designed the mustang to design the Camaro too.

Re: GM announces the 2009 Camaro
 

I guess I'm in the minority here but I like the design. I could do without the opening above the grille but, other than that, I think it looks good. It has a lot of potential be made to look as retro as you want it to be or you could leave it as is.
I am disappointed with GM in that they always seem to take too long to come out with their cars and other makes get the jump on them. The GM Execs need to grow a set and take a chance every once in a while. Maybe they're gun shy since they obviously took a chance with the GTO and that ugly "Asstek" and they were both flops for different reasons.
If they don't price the new Camaro out of the average person's range I think we may be surprised at how well it does; I know I want one.

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Yuk. GM didn't want to retro the Camaro as Ford and Chrysler are doing for the boomers. I may get myself a Hemi Challenger. GM missed the boat as they did in '64 with the Stang.

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Re: GM announces the 2009 Camaro
 

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I just looked at the new Camaro picture again. Hoping to change my opinion...nope. Man that thing is butt-ugly.
doesn't look enough retro for retro, and as a new style is not fresh at all it looks dated and cobbled together.

Maybe GM can borrow the guy who designed the mustang to design the Camaro too.

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I don't think it's being marketed as a "retro" car, it just a new generation camaro with some cues from the past. Therefore it won't make a difference when (if) it comes out. Toyota may own GM by then https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif,.........who knows.

Then i guess it would be the new Camalo!

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Wouldn't it be the Camarillo, then? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Where's the build plant gonna' be....have they clarified that today too? .
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~ Pete

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I understand it will be built in Canada at the Oshawa (sp) plant, which will be upgraded.

Re: GM announces the 2009 Camaro
 

I have heard that too.

As I understand it, the deal that GM struck with the Canadians in the late 90's that resulted in more favorable terms for GM and more concessions by the Canadians was mostly based on the fact that as long as GM made Camaros it would be done soley at the St. Therese plant for a specified number of years. Once the production stopped in 2002 there was specualtion that a legal mess would start if the Camaro came back and was made in any other plant but St Therese.

The matter was further complicated when that plant was torn down and demolished in the past 24 months or so. GM feels that since the plant is no longer there they were not obligated to return production to Canada. On the other side, the Canadians feel that they have an agreement in place with GM and would be prepared to seek restitution from GM if they resumed production and it wasn't in a Canadian plant.

I read an article about 18 months ago that went into this. I will try and dig it up and post it here.

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Aaah that's just great! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

Just what we need to see - possible litigation and union
problems to slow down the introduction of the '09 Camaro.

Where do we get off this train? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif