Re: If you could build an engine any way you wanted to
 

I built mine a couple of years ago. Simply the most fun I have had! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...508#Post416508

Re: If you could build an engine any way you wanted to
 

Love the chevelle!!!
I gotta get another car for all of my day 2 stuff.
cant go nuts on the w30 and I wanna boil the rear tires....
and the wife wants to learn how to drag race.
she said to make it fast and Loud to annoy the neighbors
the build is on its way.....slow but sure due to the
economy.....

Re: If you could build an engine any way you wanted to
 

I remember a family member back in the mid 80's with his 66 327 Vett with the side pipes and the pop it had out the exhaust. He tried to tell me that it was from fat pistons and still had to use 2 bottles of 104 octane booster to the Mobil 93 premium that it would drink.

I know I might get flammed for this but I was thinking for the someday 32 Furd Sedan highboy and always remembered the motor Spanky had in his 66. I thought it would be fun in my roadster, but I think the roadster deserves to be more mellow drivetrain.


It would start out as an old style 327 with a big stroker crank kit in it, like get 388 ci, then I heard rumors that Ohio Crank makes a bigger stroke yet. Put some big JE or Ross Pistons in it for 13-1s, a nice solid roller in it with the 3/7 flop to it, a set of either MoTown heads with some work done to them, or a set of GM castings with a ton of work done to them with a Vett alum intake with the oil tube up front, run short water pump, deep groove pullys with a factory idler pully, polished factory finned 60's Vett Covers and then one of the new Holley Fuel Injection kits running on E85 with a 63-64 Corvette Dual Snorkle air cleaner hiding it all. Run 2.5 ramshorns with the stock looking alt bracket kit on them after they been all hogged out and honed. It would either be detailed up with all stock colors but to the max (Chevy orange cleared and wet sanded, semi gloss black pullys, brackets, etc) and made to look all GM stock other than the wiring and injectors.

Mate it up to a Muncie style box with an aftermarket case and an overdrive 4th with a 3.00 something 1st gear while it would be spinning a Winters quickchange with 4 something gears.

I don't know about what mufflers yet...no Flowmasters, maybe some aftermarket Corvette sidepipe chambers reworked to run under the car so I have the same sound as Spankys 66 had. And since I'm still dreaming, run an ignition box with a 7800 chip in it, so I can shift at 7500 before the guns go off. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

Re: If you could build an engine any way you wanted to
 

I would put together a worked over 1970 LT1 350 engine. Then dyno it with every possible vintage aftermarket aluminum intake to see what one was KING of the Hill!

Re: If you could build an engine any way you wanted to
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Small block Ford. 331 stroker. TFS High Port heads. Super Victor. Pro Systems Holley somewhere in the 980cfm range. Custom solid roller. Dump the clutch at 8,500 rpm and let 'er eat. </div></div>

If you like small cubic inch high rpm builds, stay tuned, I've got something going together that you may find interesting [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would have to say that revving it up and dropping the clutch is my favorite way to drive my car. I subscribe to the philosophy of &quot;You should leave at the same RPM that you shift at&quot; and anything else is a compromise.

So my dream engine would be pretty much the same formula that I already have, just faster.

I have a stock L79 with an old X-Ram, Early Vertigate shifter and 4.88. Built when I earned $80 a week bought the car with the engine in the trunk. Two pistons were replaced during the re-build, and never even changed the oil pump. Have to thank my Pop for coming in under budget with the care in assembly that has kept this thing alive since 1992. Lots of 7k revs and missed shifts.

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/w...x/MalibuSS.jpg...
So today with a dream budget, I would want an early BBC - probably 427-, but still set-up to leave at 6k, rev on the streets and live with 88's. Early set of aluminum heads Dual-quads is a must, but would be indifferent on Tunnel Ram or Cross Ram.

I am confident that I am already pushing the limits of a stock Muncie box, so really I would want to make sure the trans stays together and the chassis twisting was kept to a minimum.

Yeah, so breaking out of the 12's in this kind of style would make me happy.

I like the way this leaves and the three point bar looks right at home!

I guess my dream build isn't a specific engine configuration, but more a philosophy on how I would want to race my car and expect things to live. Now that I say it, I don't think I answered the question very well.
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Nice</span> Chevelle, and you answered the question just fine. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: napa68</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I built mine a couple of years ago. Simply the most fun I have had! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...508#Post416508 </div></div>

That thing is off the hook! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Smokey;

No flaming here, and that's a neat mix of old &amp; new tech. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would put together a worked over 1970 LT1 350 engine. Then dyno it with every possible vintage aftermarket aluminum intake to see what one was KING of the Hill! </div></div>

Believe it or not, that actually may not be such a far-fetched idea!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VintageMusclecar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Believe it or not, that actually may not be such a far-fetched idea!

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I wanted to keep it semi-realistic.

Re: If you could build an engine any way you wanted to
 

Let's try another angle;

Two choices for &quot;raw material&quot;, a BB Chevy and SB Chevy.

What would be more interesting;

<span style="font-weight: bold">`70 style LT1</span>

--Built with period Day 2 parts? (Ported heads, bigger cam, vintage intake--maybe even a tunnel ram?)

--Built with stock parts but with some &quot;bag of tricks&quot; tweaks added? (think along the lines of &quot;Pure Stock&quot;)

--Built with stock parts but with every trick in the book thrown at it? (Think along the lines of &quot;F.A.S.T.&quot;)

<span style="font-weight: bold">`69 L72 or `70 LS6</span>

Same criteria as above.

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My vote is for the big block. It just seems like it is hard to get any real credit/respect for making a sbc fast. Even when a guy has a small block running faster than a big block, the popular opinion seems to be that he has a lesser motor. Not that I build things for other people, but I've been on the camp of having the faster sbc car and not getting the recognition for the win. It can take a little of the fun out of it.

Situation seems worse these days with the sbc getting little respect since everyone is on the LS wagon.

Realistically for me, I like a car that gets driven hard on the street and can run respectable times on the track. The BB does it with a little more style and probably a little less effort (meaning it will be happier on the street).

Remind me, stick or auto?

Re: If you could build an engine any way you wanted to
 

Trans can be whatever you want it to be.

The only imperative criteria is that it be predominantly based on &quot;old school&quot; parts, i.e. no modern aftermarket heads or blocks.

How would you build the big block?

Re: If you could build an engine any way you wanted to
 

I would prefer a BBC for my 65. My theme would be 1965-1967 speed parts. I would love to find an 396 with the siamesed cylinders, casting 3855962 I think. Would want a set of 3904392 L88 heads simply for weight but since we are dreaming, they would be date correct for my theme.

I would love to run without a hood, so an early TR2 tunnel ram would be cool. I know it would probbly fail the &quot;which one tested to make the most HP&quot; but I do like making good HP with parts that people tend to write off. I also happend to like the look of that intake and dig the fact that Grumpy Jenkins had done okay with it too.

A 4 speed makes my little 327 lots of fun, but I think I would enjoy a simple TH400 behind this beast. After-all building an engine that would keep breaking 4-speeds isn't very fun to drive
when you're broke down.

I also think it would be cool to listen to the hum of some old duplex fuel pumps, but admittedly and scare to kill the ones I have with the modern fuel. Does anyone run the Dupree/Autopulse pumps? I don't really even know if the fuel would kill them. Seems there are plenty of old SW 240a pumps running modern fuel.

http://www.saacforum.com/galleryc/al...8/DSCN5103.JPG

Gearing for me is 4.56 at a minimum, but there is something about 4.88's the seems to be right. I also like hearing form these guys who think you can't live with 88's on the street without OD. With a well tuned distributor and vac advance, I get 12 mpg with my 327 running dual quads (600cfm Holley's) a 4 speed and 4.88. Don't kow what to expect with a BBC for fuel economy, but crusing with the R's around 5 ain't for the faint of heart. The Jersey shore is only about 50-60 miles on the Expressway and I've traveled that plenty with my 88's.

There are a few &quot;newer&quot; items I find it hard to live without. I've always run a Holley Blue pump, which you just have to knw how to maintain it to get it to live. I also love my MSD to help wiht the dual quads. It's an old 7a fomr the 1970's but I trust it over just about all other systems. For a manual trans, the early Vertigate shifter is tops- anything else is...what do the young guys call it...weaksauce?

Some interesting thoughts here Eric. I would love to hear more on what prompted you to ask the question. Seems like you might have a SBC option bouncing around. I would love to hear more on that. One thing that I really like about a old smal block is the look before it went modern. No accessory holes in th heads. Nothing but an alternator. Clean and simple from a time when all sbc had forged cranks.