Re: 1969 Douglass Yenkos
 

Steve,my response was not directed to you but the discussion in general. The offer on my COPO Chevelle was a fine offer but you are correct.Its not the money.How would you replace any one of these cars.I don't think I will have trouble getting my money out of it when I do decide to sell . Just thought we should bottom line the thread and move on. I don't see any consensus on it and most will probably always feel a Yenko is from Yenko.We can all choose what we want to believe.Whether any of the evidence suggested reflects in the values, the market will have to decide. I don't own an asterisk car so it won't affect me personally. I hope they all go up to 500k next week.

Re: 1969 Douglass Yenkos
 

Ok, I just want you all to know I will be sleeping in the dog house tonight because my wife just called and asked, "Why aren't you home yet... you said you were leaving over an hour ago!" [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/mad.gif[/img] ... I couldn't tell her I was reading this series of posts.... and yes, for whoever asked about 5 pages ago, "You mean someone's actually reading this?!"... I "have" been reading this great discussion... every page... every word.
Goodnight everyone.... I hear it's going to be cold out tonight. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

Brrrrrr....
Ken

Re: 1969 Douglass Yenkos
 

Belair...Yours IS the Asterisk car...............

Re: 1969 Douglas Yenkos
 

It was meant to be a joke 69rsss350. Sorry to offend you...BKH

Re: 1969 Douglas Yenkos
 

Brian, I took no offense, I just think peoples names should not be made fun of. It is kinda personal, know what I mean? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

Re: 1969 Douglas Yenkos
 

Marlin says:
I feel that the source of the car is exactly what defines a Yenko. Maybe that statement is what summarizes this whole discussion. I feel the source defines a Yenko, do you feel that the marketing package defines a Yenko?

Marlin,
I'm missing something. So a Nickey ordered and sold elsewhere is still a Nickey, a Harrel ordered and sold elsewhere is still a Harrel, but that's not true for a Yenko.
Yenko was marketing an image and a package. If you walked into Douglass in 69, you'd see a double COPO complete with all the Yenko decals. Sure would look like a Yenko to me, esp since that's what they were selling. People at all the Yenko distributors didn't ask where the car was originally shipped to. They asked 'That a 427? Cool!'

Interesting story about Berger and Douglass. Wow, talk about reaching.


I'm altruistic (at least relative to this topic), but I am really starting to realize this is about $$. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif[/img]
At least I changed the title of the topic.....

Re: 1969 Douglass Yenkos
 

Belair,
You are an Asterisk. I just thought that you meant the thread was only about $$$$.00 which it is not, at least not to me. The auction on the other hand is mostly about the $$$$.00. Its alot of fun too, usually. I just hope that Mr. Gasser has a bigger suit case than he brought for the last Douglass COPO*Yenko Which ran across the block.

I thought that this was over months ago, but it isn't there are still some underlying issues which need to get hashed out as they will most certainly come up again. I am not the trying to manipulate history or rewrite it to my satisfaction, just acknowledge that which took place.

I have many people who share Yenko/Super Car Stories with me about the cars which were lined up in front of Douglass Chevy and eventually street raced down North Ave. Not one person has ever made mention to me that they were anything but Yenkos nor asked who the MSO was made out to.

Here in Chicago and the Suburbs most people only know that they were Yenkos as that is the way they were advertised and anyone in the Know who was in the market either went to Nickey, Nickey ,Nickey Chevrolet, Ordered a Baldwin Motion, Built it themselves or Drove it off the lot from Douglass Chevrolet.

Heck there are still some who won't even acknowledge that there are a whole bunch of unfound Gibb Sold Super Cars converted by Dick Harrell.

The mighty sYc Dealer network which maintained many, many dealers sold 198 Yenko Super Camaros in 1969. Jacks accomplishments with his direct order as well as his portion of the 198 are paramount to Yenko History here in Chicago as well as anywhere in the country.

Re: 1969 Douglass Yenkos
 

It is not about money to me. It is about maintaining an accurate history of the Yenko cars. This is why the Mecum ad bothers me. It advertises a white Yenko Camaro as a "true Yenko" but it is well documented that Yenko choose to build his 1969 Yenko Camaros in only 6 colors and white was not one of them. It should be clearly stated that this car was ordered by Douglas and striped by Douglas and was not done by the normal Yenko process. Mecum should not call it a "true Yenko" because that description does not inform the reader of the controversy that this car is not on the Yenko vin list. It is up to the individual to decide if they consider it the same as the other Yenkos. Some people do not consider it a "true Yenko" and some do, and the ad should reflect this. The ad is misleading and corrupts Yenko history.

Re: 1969 Douglass Yenkos
 

The difference in these cars is clear. A Harrell car was converted by Harrell and his crew regardless of were the car was sold. Most of the time Bill Allen was the supplier. Allen did not do the conversion. The Nickey/Thomas connection is advertised as such. No mystery there. Berger did their thing etc, etc. If Douglass skipped the very first rule of getting the cars from Yenko Sports Cars, clearly this is not a Yenko. It does not matter that the cars are 9561/9737 cars to me. Douglass was not in my opinion the clear manifacture of these cars like Harrell or Bill Thomas. I have one 9737 COPO from Prout that I am doing now along with Shor's Douglass. The Prout is not a Yenko, but it seems there would be an argument from the Prout owners that since their cars are 9737 cars it could be a Yenko. Douglass bypassed the system and later seemed he could not sell the cars without the stripes. The Douglass cars are very unique and desirable to many, I just cannot accept any Yenko connection. This whole argument would not even exsist it Yenko was to be the sole distributor of the cars. He and Gibb got the ball rolling with Chevrolet by laying down the groundwork for special hi-performance chevrolets starting many years before the Camaro's came along. Yenko was the inovator for these cars. Every COPO owes him that...BKH

Re: 1969 Douglass Yenkos
 

Looking at all of these posts I will be bringing a lot smaller suit case..... [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]