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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The team at Muscle Car Restorations in Chippewa Falls, WI. does great work....They usually always have a car or two at MCACN.
My powder coater does a lot of the same as in this article.....just as he does the front rotors....I have him do the same with the rear drums.....again this is more for the driver car....but I have also used the same procedure with judged cars....no point deductions. I like to eliminate the possibility for any and all rust ever returning. Not an easy task. This article is 100% correct it is ALL IN THE PREP WORK! Dan </div></div> I have printed out all the pages (And all the pics from the green Chevelle) so I have some reference as I pick a powder coater. Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Why am I not surprised [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]
YOU WILL FIND THE RIGHT Powder Coater.....and have a beautiful original frame. Dan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Dad picked up a tow bar and lights, and a couple carts to move items around.
Early before work I will measure up to make brackets to mount to the frame. Ryan https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-img_3546.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...2-img_3547.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...3-img_3548.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-img_3549.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...5-img_3550.jpg |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
How far is it from the Igloo to the house [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]
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If it was me Id find a friend with a trailer.
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Not far, I will follow along. Probably 20 minute drive going real slow.
Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
If you are using the same truck you came to MCACN, If possible.....reverse your trailer hitch receiver.....you want the ball as low as you can get it.....with your frame being much lower. Hope it works.
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you are using the same truck you came to MCACN, If possible.....reverse your trailer hitch receiver.....you want the ball as low as you can get it.....with your frame being much lower. Hope it works.
Dan </div></div> Good point, we have an offset receiver, will use it to lower the ball. Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Tow bar was a bust:-(
The wheels of the chassis would turn full left or full right but did not want to follow the truck!!! Dad is as stubborn as I am........ (Tenacious) so he pulled all the caster shims out of one side of the upper control arms and stuck them in the other side to exaggerate the following effect.... Nope. Then two of us stood on the front end and he used Rachel araps to pull the suspension lower closer to ride height.... No joy..... Pushed it back inside and waved the white flag for tonight! Ryan I am open to information, Google hasn't offered me any wisdom yet.... |
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Ryan spend $75. And rent a tow dolly from well here Uhaul
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Looking good buddy!!!!!
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Like I said earlier, find a friend with a trailer.
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Changing plans to get the frame power washed and returned home......
Need to wrap this up as Santa is coming soon and we need to focus on that!! Plus my parents are heading south soon with the truck:-) Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tow bar was a bust:-(
The wheels of the chassis would turn full left or full right but did not want to follow the truck!!! Dad is as stubborn as I am........ (Tenacious) so he pulled all the caster shims out of one side of the upper control arms and stuck them in the other side to exaggerate the following effect.... Nope. Then two of us stood on the front end and he used Rachel araps to pull the suspension lower closer to ride height.... No joy..... Pushed it back inside and waved the white flag for tonight! Ryan I am open to information, Google hasn't offered me any wisdom yet.... </div></div> Bummer. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img] When I had my drag car's front end aligned, they put a whole bunch of shims in the rear of each upper control arm. Whenever I let go of the steering wheel after making a turn, the wheel would nearly rip out of my hand to return to center. |
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A power wash will be a fun and wet....bring a change of sox and shoes [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Sometimes you can make friends with the local tow company, and offer them cash to move it when they don't have any service calls or priority work. Should be able to get a break and they'll move it with a flatbed. That's how most mechanics get their huge toolboxes moved.
I used to do that when moving my last project car around, for $75 it wasn't worth going to get my friend's trailer, hook it up, winch the car up, bring it home, then go return the trailer. |
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You have to be able to lock the steering box to temporarily fix the front wheels into a non-steering capacity. Without the column/steering wheel in place, that is hard to do. You can try wrapping chains around the drag link/idler arms to limit movement. Otherwise, without the body weight to force the wheels to follow their caster settings properly, it will fling the front wheels in either direction.
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Flat towing sucks. I did it when I was 17 with an old GS and almost ripped the bumper off when the front wheels crossed up during a turn. On Lankershim Blvd, in the San Fernando Valley, during rush hour. You can almost picture it in your mind....
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Thanks for the feedback guys!!
Here is the note I left for Dad, but he didn't get it till he already had a full head of steam for using the tow bar. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-img_3590.jpg We tried to rent a trailer but the local place didn't have any till Monday, so Dad went early and locked the wheels from turning and at lunch time Dad towed the chassis and I followed him to Dad's friends shop for power washing. Dad power washed the chassis in the afternoon and I met him after work to monitor the chassis towing as he drove home. All went well, no exciting "Gas Monkey garage Drama" we only drove about 40kph, as the geometry was so bad on the front end from shimming and especially as the front end is all the way up due to lack of weight. I wouldn't recommend this process but the cost of the tow bar and lights was the same cost as renting the trailer for a day so I am ahead:-) My plan was to use the tow bar after chassis restoration to bring the chassis back to the igloo to put the body back on. I think I still will do this as we can improve the geometry so the front wheel follow better. I added pictures of the "Junk Ship" and the freshly power washed chassis. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-img_3570.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-img_3571.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0-img_3573.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-img_3575.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...2-img_3576.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...3-img_3577.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-img_3578.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...5-img_3579.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...6-img_3580.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-img_3581.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-img_3582.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-img_3583.jpg |
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More chassis pictures.
Ryan https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-img_3584.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...2-img_3585.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...3-img_3586.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-img_3587.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...5-img_3588.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...6-img_3589.jpg |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Good deal Ryan.
You're in good hands with a dad that's so dedicated to help you get the job done. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] Now onto the frame disassembly. |
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Looking good! Chipping away more and more every day keep it up!
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
We are having such fun!!!
Now that the frame is closer to home Jamie can be more involved. Dad and I are closer now than ever before, since we renovated my current house 5 years ago, working to exhaustion every day for six months we really get each other now:-) Ryan Project is on hold till after Christmas:-) Unless I get a dog house to live in:-) |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
"Project is on hold till after Christmas:-) Unless I get a dog house to live in:-)"
Com'on, egg nog and a wire wheel go well together on Christmas morning. |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the feedback guys!!
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-img_3570.jpg </div></div> You guys are having way too much with this. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] |
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We are enjoying it more than I ever imagined!!
Egg nog and wire wheel......... how about cinnamon buns and soda blaster:-) Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
"Project is on hold till after Christmas:-) Unless I get a dog house to live in:-)"
__________________________________________________ __________________________________ Ha, that did not last long....you know what I am referring to. I would be out there after hours....for hours [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] Dan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Nice
I think I'll have to do the same thing...with transporting my 71 Cutlass frame when the time comes. |
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I wouldn't recommend this method:-(
If I had to do it again I would probably rent a dolly that the front tires sit on. Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Flat bed is the BEST method.....too many things can go wrong with all of the above.
Dan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Agree, I had a very short distance to travel so not a biggie but trailer would be cool
Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
invest in a relatively cheap 16 or 18' open trailer, you can always sell it when the project is done.
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This is probably the best plan.
Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Great progress and I miss the times my father and I spent working on projects.. I can honestly say I envy you.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great progress and I miss the times my father and I spent working on projects.. I can honestly say I envy you.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>
You hit the nail on the head!!! Dad is like a machine, he is working on the car in his sleep and wakes up ready to go!! Dad and Jamie removed the exhaust, driveshaft, Z bar, transmission mount bolts, engine mount bolts, carburetor, etc to prep the engine and trans to be removed. I brought home the engine hoist again and we pulled out the engine and transmission and then separated the transmission. The M22 is a 10 spline same as my M20 which is great, this means I can swap transmissions in future fairly easily. Then we took a trip to the igloo to gather any and all tools, jacks, car parts (except the big chunks of course) and swept up to leave the igloo in good standing:-) Ryan https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...6-img_3612.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-img_3613.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-img_3614.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-img_3615.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0-img_3616.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-img_3618.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...2-img_3620.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...3-img_3621.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-img_3622.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...5-img_3624.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...6-img_3625.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-img_3626.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...8-img_3627.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-img_3628.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0-img_3629.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-img_3630.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...2-img_3631.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...3-img_3632.jpg |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Off to work:-)
PS: Dad and I talked last night and he is excited to drag my car to and from Chicago, as long as Nick Morocco will be at MCACN!! They became instant ("besties") friends at our L89 display last year. TTYL Ryan </div></div> Nick visited us at MCACN briefly, and picked up my M20 for rebuild. He has started gathering the parts to freshen up the transmission. Looking forward to shifting gears!! Ryan |
Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
better seal that car up to keep the mice out. maybe put some type of repellent in there too. plenty of home brew ideas to keep the visitors out..
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Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
Well done Weavers [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
Dan |
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