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So they really did have factory screw-in studs and pushrod guide plates! That's something I've always wondered about. I know many people don't think Camaros were even built after 1969, but I think the 1970 Z-28 is undoubtedly the best Z-28 ever built. Maybe even the best "factory-built" Camaro of the era. Those 67-69 302 CID Z's just lack the torque of that wonderful LT-1. That LT-1 was one of Zora's babies and he loved it as such. So, we have the best, original example of the best Camaro, IMHO, ever built. And it's a Rally Sport! I'm insanely jealous.

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Bob, I would hope that the Chicago media is alerted to the story, homecoming etc etc.

Would help the gate for the show ?????????

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http://www.1970z28camaro.com is up and running. I will add more stuff later like text for some of the detail shots.

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I think your videos of starting the car with door buzzer going are great!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gifIt really brings back memories of working on cars in the 70's with those irritating noise makers!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Great job with the website!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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How the heck am I supposed to get any work done at the office today, Charley?

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Bob, I would hope that the Chicago media is alerted to the story, homecoming etc etc.

Would help the gate for the show ?????????

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You better believe it! A "reunion" is planned! Check out the MCACN website for a Press Release on Charley's car.

This incredible Z will be the very first car that will be scrutinized for Vintage Certification at the new show.

Bashton

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Chickened out on leaving the orig oil and filter on the car, drained the oil and changed the filter. Obvious from paint on edge of drain plug gasket that pan was painted with plug installed. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/390602-002.JPG

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I had to register to say two things.

1st CONGRATS ON THE FANTASTIC FIND!

2nd Please tell me you used an oil that is high in zinc. Most modern oils do not have enough zinc to protect a flat tappet cam. I would hate to see a cam lobe go flat and possibly destroy that engine. This is the main reason why I joined. I am THAT concerned about that oil you used.

Awesome website Charlie...!
 

Thanks for sharing it with the world. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Knowing Charlie he a supply of the old oil back in the day.

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Patrick. I think I filled it with Mobil One and added some Marvel Mystery Oil. It will probably sit most of it's life so about the only other thing to add is something like STP that clings to the walls real well. Suggestions ?

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Sell it to me..

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Patrick. I think I filled it with Mobil One and added some Marvel Mystery Oil. It will probably sit most of it's life so about the only other thing to add is something like STP that clings to the walls real well. Suggestions ?

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Charley....how about Z Max? The demonstrations that I've seen on TV are pretty impressive, the stuff is actually absorbed into the metal. I'm thinking about adding it in my 70 Z along with the older version of Rotella with the high levels of ZDDP. Anyone here have an opinion one way or the other about Z Max???

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The time you have taken to put this web site together is greatly appreciated. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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Charlie, great site! This will be a big help as I restore my 70 LA built Z-28. If you get a chance, can you post dimensions of the original stripes using a tape measure much the same way the assembly manual shows, for others that want correct stripes on their 70 LA built Z-28's.

Thanks, Paul

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I just spoke to an engine builder last weekend that swears by Comp Cams oil additive to make up for the lost ingredients in most of today's oils. (i.e. Zinc, etc.)

link to product info

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I just spoke to an engine builder last weekend that swears by Comp Cams oil additive to make up for the lost ingredients in most of today's oils. (i.e. Zinc, etc.)

link to product info

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I would not use the sybthetic oil at all. Most modern synthetics have no additives that are necessary for older engines with flat tappet cams as they were primarily designed for moderm engines with roller valvetrains and such. You want an oil with good "cling". I would recommend Valvoline VR1 race oil and a bottle of Comp additive. Fortunately, in this case you are dealing with a car that even though it's relatively old, the valve spring pressures are modest and the parts are already mated. I guess one area that could be a potential hazard is if a lifter stuck in the bore and failed to rotate. That would flatten the cam in no time.

MB

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...Please tell me you used an oil that is high in zinc. Most modern oils do not have enough zinc to protect a flat tappet cam. I would hate to see a cam lobe go flat and possibly destroy that engine. This is the main reason why I joined. I am THAT concerned about that oil you used.

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Patrick,
I use ZDDPlus religiously in all of my flat-tappet engines as it has the highest zinc content on the market. In fact, I have been a distributor for several years now. If anyone is in need, let me know.

[email protected]

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...-I-Have-It.gif

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Maybe Charlie can get a forum just for his site?

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Patrick,
I use ZDDPlus religiously in all of my flat-tappet engines as it has the highest zinc content on the market. In fact, I have been a distributor for several years now. If anyone is in need, let me know.

[email protected]

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Rich....can you do better than 10 bucks a bottle? They sell for 10 bucks on their web site and Joe at the Parts Place also is selling for 10 bucks.

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What about GM Engine Oil Supplement (EOS). I understand it is high in Zinc. It better be, I'm using it in my Chevelle.

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Sure...$9.00/bottle for SYC members.

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What about GM Engine Oil Supplement (EOS). I understand it is high in Zinc. It better be, I'm using it in my Chevelle.

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Both Jeg's and Summit Racing sell EOS (#88862586) for $19.95/pint. That's is double what ZDDPlus goes for...and the zinc content is lower as well.

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Several of the oils from Amsoil meet or exceed the zinc/phosphorus levels necessary for flat tappet engines without any extra additives.

link to service bulletin

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I didn't say "can I buy it" :-)

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I run valvoline racing VR1 10w30 oil and a bottle of comp cams break in lube in my 406 as per my builders recommendation. I've got one of the xtreme energy hydraulic flat tappet cams in it with the high ramp rates/spring pressures and he said that was the best prevention for wiping a cam lobe. As others have mentioned, I would not run a synthetic oil.

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Truly amazing!
Thanks for all the pics. Solved some mysteries for me!

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Thanks...That was the idea behind the site.

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I agree, between this new site and all the pics of the 67 Z Charley posted has sure saved a lot of head aches for my son and myself. Thanks for all the time you take to help us out. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Anyone here have an opinion one way or the other about Z Max???

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Here's a link to one of Z-Max's numerous consent decrees with the Federal Trade Commission over false and misleading advertising; they're in violation AGAIN, and the current complaint is in litigation. When you sell something for 50 times what it costs to make it, you make lots of money to pay lawyers to keep the FTC tied up in court and off your back, and you can spend lots of marketing money (like paying Bruton Smith millions to call his new dragstrip "Z-Max Dragway").

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/02/zmax1.shtm

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Bruton ownes Z-Max.

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Very well put together website Charlie. Nice Photos etc.
GREAT!

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http://v8tvshow.com/content/view/852/1/

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Nice spot Charley. You did GOOD. Gr8 car!!!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Great video! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

...and like Sam said, you did GOOD Charley! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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Yup, a real natural for the camera!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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I'm sitting here with a '70 Z with a broken nose and I have to watch that? Can't wait to get mine fixed.

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Charlie thats great the way you sare the photos with everyone,your a real class act.great history within those photos.i wish someone would discover a 70 chevelle like that and share photos and history. maybe someone does have a 70 chevelle like that but does not want to share the info?
my favourite piece of history was that white and black pf-25 oil filter and all the mulitiple build sheets,cool https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Very, very nice Charlie!

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Just got back from the website. That really is a great car and you really did the Camaro Universe a great service by providing and sharing the pictures that you did. Most greedy owners would have locked that car away for bragging rights instead of sharing it like you did. The '70 Z-28 is one of the VERY few Musclecars where I actually prefer the TH400 version over the 4-speed. I just have some fond memories of driving them, clicking that horseshoe shifter and chirping those rear tires! Anyway.......kudos to you for sharing that time warp of a car.....it couldn't possibly have a better owner.

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That is spectacular.

Hopefully I can get to see it in real life one day!

MB