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very brittle stuff after 39 years. This broke off the other side as I was wiping it off...arrgh. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/387962-tn_003.JPG

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STOP WIPING!

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif Just as I suspected. Nothing but Black Print! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

I'll speculate this is the same as the other OE filter since I see no indication of stripes, and definitely no print on what could be the back.
Thanks Charley. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Unbelievable car. Thanks for the trip back in time. Also, thanks for posting the details.

Phil Woj.

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Trying to get to the bottom of this oil filter question, I'm trying to compare a Repop filter on Right, and what I hope is a NOS filter on left.
Hate to admit what I paid for the NOS one.. Let me know what you think.

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I thought the white,bottom embossed & sometimes found with or w/o w/black script filter was commonly installed during engine (break in) assembly at both Flint & Tonawanda,while the nearly same filter,but now w/blue script like yours on the left above,was available OTC and retail back then.And possibly quickly replaced the break in filter during dealer prep before the new owner picked it up too.
Charley's car may be the only one left that can answer this question..

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I might as well remove this one and clean the undercoating off it so we can see what it actually is. I also think I will cut it open and see what the paper looks like after being in oil for 39 years.

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I think your right the production filter will be different from the over the counter filter, they still do it today no need for all the silk screen on the production filter.

Charlie, Don't do anything drastic, clean yes remove and cut open I wouldn't, the paper is fine.

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he's just pulling your chain!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Cutting it open is a wise move Charley, since you ran it without an oil change. That will tell you a lot about the condition of the internals.

I only wish I could have the opportunity to document such a rare unmolested original '61-'64 as your car. I've gathered many bits & pieces from several cars, but not had the pleasure of spending unlimited time on one true original. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif
Verne https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Charlie, One more thing, How about a VIN on the filter flange. looks like it might of got undercoated also.

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif NO! NO! NO! (you goofball) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Let me check with the owner of the one I spoke of and see if he minds if I post a couple of pictures of his. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Who can post the pictures for me????????????? Let me know and I'll e-mail them to you. Assembly line oil filter off of 70 L-78 removed with 500 miles on engine.

Oops misread the previous post. Dennis go ahead and post them. Saves me from digging it out and photoing it.

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I look forward to seeing those Don.
Feel free to send them to me at [email protected],if Dennis doesn't post,& I will.

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Jack, I believe it is a LA built car like mine, so it should have the VIN stamp on the pad next to the assembly date.

Paul

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Thanks Don. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif I'll have them up tonite. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Don just sent me these with this explanation..

Rick, this filter was removed from a 1970 L-78 Camaro that showed 500 miles on the odometer.I personally took it off the engine in 1988.A friend of mine had bought the car which had been converted to a race car.The L-78 had been removed when new and replaced with a L-88.I replaced all the race parts with the stock original parts which had all been saved.The oil filter was removed as we had the engine disassembled cleaned and re-assembled.The oil filter was stuck so tight that the only way I could get it off was with a punch through the body and a hammer.This was prior to the time when replacing an oil filter was not a big deal.If I only knew then.......................

Take note of the embossed wording on the bottom of the filter.Air filters weren't the only ones with this verbiage.
Don

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Cool. Those are even better than the pix I have. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Don Stowers speaks of the infamous 500 mile 70 L-78 he resurrected many years ago..............

Another woulda, shoulda, coulda, kept or bought that car....

(sigh!!!!!!!!!!!)


Cant recall if Citrus Green or Green Mist ??????? Anybody know who, what, where on this 70 SS L-78 ????? Never mind, another thread..............

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Was a nice 61 degrees outside today so I had the Z out, started it....Squirted a bunch of Marvel Mystery Oil down the carb while at a high idle. Basically oiling everything up. Even the exhaust. Also dropped the oil filter. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/388537-tn_032.JPG

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. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/388538-tn_036.JPG

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. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/388539-tn_037.JPG

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cleaned the undercoating off https://www.yenko.net/attachments/388540-tn_042.JPG

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. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/388542-tn_043.JPG

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. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/388545-tn_039.JPG

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. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/388546-tn_038.JPG

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It actually looks ok inside from what I can see so it is going back on. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/388547-tn_040.JPG

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. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/388548-tn_027.JPG

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WoW!...that filter really does look nearly brand new.
Thanks again Charley,Don,Norman..







..and Doris. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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Awesome Charlie, Thanks, Did you put it back on??

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That is the correct assembly line filter. Brian Caudell used to reproduce them, they had the right B/W screening on the side but were not correctly embossed on the bottom. It is good to finally see the real one. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Awesome job Charlie,what did you use to get the undercoating off with?

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lacquer thinner

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I would have thought that would have compromised the paint finish after all those years but I guess not.

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Under coating will come off with Mineral Spirits or even WD-40, and the paint will not be affected.

Paul

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Plain old Kerosene, some soft brushes and a little patience. Can't beat it! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Yes I put the filter back on after filling it with Marvel Mystery oil. I had also used a ton of in the carb and the inside of the exhaust shouldn't rust anymore because I have red oil on the ground mixed in with the condensation. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/388829-tn_002.JPG

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I found a couple spots on the car were it was touched up with a brush. It appears the paint got chipped when they installed the front and rear glass trim. I'm guessing the factory did the touch up. I had asked Norman and he said he never did and touch up. If he had he would have also done the door ding that made him park the car. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/388830-tn_005.JPG