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x Baldwin Motion 07-20-2008 10:38 PM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...poNovaSSTT.jpg


stevesnovasite thread on this copo 63 nova

wagonman 07-20-2008 11:21 PM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
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Just polled a few owners of 63 Chevy II's built in Oakland. Seems they all had 4 digit numbers at the end of the ACC line, and all different. One owner said the dealer had the number from his car as the stock# on the sales agreement. It also seems transmission code M35 was the only actual RPO code they used on the cowl tag. All the rest are single letter codes. It may be of interest that Canadian built Chevy II's had the actual RPO codes on the cowl tag, sometimes including the engine. The ACC line on my L79 read M20L79A81. The A81 was the rare, bucket seat headrest option.

Bob

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here is the tag on my Oakland built 63 super sport factory Air car.....and it does not show a/c on the cowl tag....i purchase this car from the original owner in 1989 so i know it's indeed factory a/c.its a irmine white car originaly.much of the car is still original..

back seat
headliner
drive train
rear package tray cardboard
dashpad

etc...


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...k/100_5879.jpg

JayR 07-21-2008 12:47 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
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here is the tag on my Oakland built 63 super sport factory Air car.....and it does not show a/c on the cowl tag....i purchase this car from the original owner in 1989 so i know it's indeed factory a/c.its a irmine white car originaly.much of the car is still original..

back seat
headliner
drive train
rear package tray cardboard
dashpad

etc...

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My 63 Nova SS convertible also has factory a/c. It was built in Willow Run and doesn't have the a/c noted on the cowl tag, either. For whatever reason, you seldom see any factory a/c Chevy II's with the option noted on the cowl tag.
Bob

wagonman 07-21-2008 02:31 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
good deal bob,

i also have a factory a/c 63ss covert.77k original miles. i know it may sound like bs but it's true. i have had that car since i was 9 years old!

my first car,and will be my last(i will be buried in it if i have the chance)met my wife with it when i was 18.she saw me driving around town for 3 years or so before we finally met. yes i was driving it before i was legally licenced.i was on a first name basis with pacifica's finest

givin to me by my dad..i know the vin number by heart!

rafbody 07-21-2008 06:31 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
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i know the vin number by heart!

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Is it just me or do a lot of us know our vin numbers by heart?

wagonman 07-24-2008 04:57 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...Family/1-1.jpg
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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...y/Family/2.jpg
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what exactly are these docs?

engine production numbers?

Verne_Frantz 07-24-2008 08:03 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
Just read the first 6 lines of each page. It's perfectly clear what they are. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

wagonman 07-24-2008 09:36 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
can i edit the previous persons post....?

wagonman,yes these are engine production numbers as described..


oh ok then..

this really does'nt seem to be strong evidence that it ever made production in a vehicle.

these seem to be only engine production numbers not vehicle production...perhaps they were ordered for a dealer for a dealer install.perhaps bill thomas had something to do with this....

dealer installs did happen in late 62 early 63

JChlupsa 07-24-2008 09:52 AM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
I would say they were made. Do you have totals of the other engines for 63 Chevy IIs and do they match the paperwork above? If they did I would say the 3 would be reconized as just what the the bottom of the page (2) states, Any Chevy IIs being assembled. Stranger things have happend such as only 1 68 Z28 Convertable

Verne_Frantz 07-24-2008 07:12 PM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
The totals listed above are indeed for production vehicle installations. An example would be the 21,513 327 engines installed in Corvettes. That happens to be the total production of '63 Corvettes. Flint and Tonawanda engine production exceeds all the totals above by quite a bit.

Verne https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

442w30 07-24-2008 07:26 PM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
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Just read the first 6 lines of each page. It's perfectly clear what they are. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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I inferred the question to say, "Are these pages what they purport to be? Or is it someone with a good dot matrix printer?" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

PeteLeathersac 07-24-2008 08:51 PM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
The '63 Chevy-2 V8 production information is no doubt amazing on it's own but to be clear in what's been stated above, nothing has been substantiated to suggest the subject '63 Nova of this thread is one of the original V8 cars noted in the production documents..

To further clarify, Verne's mention of the 4 digit code indicating COPO or F&SO was in reference to what's been seen on full size cars only but reported to be common on tags of standard RPO equipped Oakland built Chevy 2's..

Also, of the V8 cars noted in the documents as produced, nothing presented indicates they were built as a Copo.. Could've been but we don't know this do we?.

Just thought it best these points were clearly understood before anyone considers the information here as substantiating the subject car seller's statements...or if this site and thread somehow end up being pointed out to justify these claims?.

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~ Pete
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x Baldwin Motion 07-24-2008 08:57 PM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
You're right Pete, I got overexcited thinking we may have a very rare find. Still no real proof this car is one of three. I did not mean to put Verne or his info on the spot. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

Verne_Frantz 07-24-2008 10:43 PM

Re: 63 SS Nova COPO ???????
 
Good to hear the clarification. I think we're all on the same page now.

As to the production documents, they were compiled and published in the '80s. They were retyped but the data was taken from original Chevrolet records that the author obtained with Chevrolet's permission.

I didn't mean to upset anyone with my answers, and if I did I apologize. I just thought the titles of the pages made it very clear as to the meaning of the data.

Verne https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif


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