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You wont shop there because the way they treat people, but you dont mind selling to them as your best customer??????????

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This is why I like this site. I posted this same thread on alot of the sites I visit and I'm getting hammered as being this and that. All I wanted to do was get some conversation going not only on Wal-Mart but major business in general. We could have these same arguments about oil companies too and maybe we will when a movie comes out. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

I really don't feel the need to reply to other peoples feelings and beliefs, to each their own. Who am I to critisize anyone. Thank God for the USA where we can make the decisions we want and express our thoughts and feelings openly. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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i am not an independant operator. i am a delivery driver that is told what i must do if i want to stay employed. i do however get a certain $ percentage of what i sell. if i don't like it i guess i can can walk but i figure i like a roof over my head and food in my stomach. they have a right to exist just like every other retailer. i have every right not to shop there as a customer. 30 years in retail\wholesale i've seen some crazy things. but these guys take the cake. i gotta eat like everyone else. mike

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Chuckie, Why are you defending WalMart so much or are you just being the devils advocate. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif Whether we like WM or not it is not going to go away. I believe they sell products for less because even the Chinese (cheap,low grade products) have a lesser grade of product. I think WM buys the Chinese throw aways in some cases. JMO. It seems that way. Shop where you want to shop. There are no factories left in this country anyways. Its pretty much over for us with factory production as we once knew it. My grandkids will never here or use the word factory I bet. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18298972/

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You know, I'm not quite sure who to blame for the idea that as a nation we could base our economy on consumer spending, while we produce nothing.Was it the Republicans who made the folks in those double wides with the attached porches, that with enough plasma screen tvs, gas grilles, Nascar CDs, and 160 channel dish network that they were really "upper middle class"?
That unions are bad because they value senioity over personal initiative, so it's harder to suck your way to the top. And as flawed as they are, until we all decide to treat each other with respect, and fairness, it's better than having to deal with a friggin idiot on a power trip.
Or perhaps we blame the Democrats. Slick Willy supported NAFTA. And as much as GOPers hate to admit it, he was very good to business. Lotta stuff went to China under his administration.
But I guess in reality, we can just blame our selves. That's a tough one.Hard to just blame Wally world when the major lending institutions have sold out to foreign investers. Your home loan through Citigroup is most likely held by someone with a last name of middle east decent, or Mandrin.
Amazing. We won WWll, not because we had better equipment, or superior soldiers. We won because we had GM, Chrysler, Ford, International Harvestor, McDonnell Douglas, etc. We out produced the other side, and as time passed, our equipment did surpass the Axis. We made our own steel, and had craftsmen, welders, tool, and die makers, patternmakers, pipefitters. Skilled workers who had, and worked with pride.
How do you suppose that compares with being a Walmart greeter, where you wear the flag on your shirt, and don't have a clue why.
Maybe when the Chinese get tired of sellin us stuff, and just decide to take the place over, about the only thing we can do is throw hot Starbucks double lataes at em, and some Dunkin donuts. With a little luck they'll all die of high cholesteral before the take over the whole country. Then we'll have to get some illegals to clean em up I guess. Sorry for the rant.

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I'm kinda glad I'll be dead in a few years. This Country is doomed.

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We have been given up for dead as a country several times in the last few decades. Great depression, Communist red scare, Jap's buying everything in sight in the 80's now Wal Mart and the so called "Global Warming" scare where we spend Billions to go green while the developing countries continue to have zip for regulations.

Big government and regulations is the real problem. Ask any small business owner. These are the same poor folks that are likely hurt by Wal Mart's tactics.

We will get through it. This is the greatest country ever!
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We have been given up for dead as a country several times in the last few decades. Great depression, Communist red scare, Jap's buying everything in sight in the 80's now Wal Mart and the so called "Global Warming" scare where we spend Billions to go green while the developing countries continue to have zip for regulations.

Big government and regulations is the real problem. Ask any small business owner. These are the same poor folks that are likely hurt by Wal Mart's tactics.

We will get through it. This is the greatest country ever!
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I "Agree"........and it will happen thru "Self" Thinking individuals........and not the Sheep (Cheap) mentality.......

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Jap's buying everything in sight in the 80's

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Keep in mind that it was we Americans who sold the Japanese everything in the 1980s. We'd sell bin Laden a fully loaded 747 if we could keep it out of the news.

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What about certain ethnic eateries and pizzerias that abound everywhere,that employ only certain countrymen and women[some on visitation,and some illegals id be certainly willing to bet since smiling and nodding is the extent of thier english skills], take away most locals business [who have to pay more overhead and taxes] ,dont provide proper healthcare,unemployment benefits,and who send all thier earnings back to thier country instead of spending it here[usually tax free of course]. Most buy food only from thier own country . They take local businesses ability to earn, and ddont buy food from the US in many cases,and dont spend thier money here,its normally sent back to thier country where a dollar goes much farther for them .And of course they dont need healthcare,Uncle Sam is nore than willing to provide that for them while they are visiting.Go to a large buffet[since they have the largest effect on local businesses] and see 150 people come in for lunch in an hour,and think to yourself that if this rstaurant wasnt here these 150 people would have to eat somewhere else locally and that would create 15 jobs for our kids wanting to cook,waitress or clean tables to get through school.

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Jap's buying everything in sight in the 80's

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Keep in mind that it was we Americans who sold the Japanese everything in the 1980s. We'd sell bin Laden a fully loaded 747 if we could keep it out of the news.

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Bill, that is some big A$$ can of worms you are dumping on the table!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif Yeah, I'm a pain in the a$$ that way!

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WOW Mayor, Some very good points of view! Since the Unions have died out pretty much so has health care, pensions and workers rights. (my opinion) The working man has pretty much lost a voice in the work force. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif If the people couldn't blame labor, who would they blame? NEVER themselves or management! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif Not us, it must be those workin stiffs, thats why the plant is shutting down! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Sammy..........The "Cheap" crowd is forcing "Cheap" into the Business community and Guess who pays the Price for "Cheap".........Again.....Instant "Cheap" satisfaction has "Long" term results..........Not an "Easy" problem to resolve.......But the world we grew up in has changed....

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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You know, I'm not quite sure who to blame for the idea that as a nation we could base our economy on consumer spending, while we produce nothing.Was it the Republicans who made the folks in those double wides with the attached porches, that with enough plasma screen tvs, gas grilles, Nascar CDs, and 160 channel dish network that they were really "upper middle class"?
That unions are bad because they value senioity over personal initiative, so it's harder to suck your way to the top. And as flawed as they are, until we all decide to treat each other with respect, and fairness, it's better than having to deal with a friggin idiot on a power trip.
Or perhaps we blame the Democrats. Slick Willy supported NAFTA. And as much as GOPers hate to admit it, he was very good to business. Lotta stuff went to China under his administration.
But I guess in reality, we can just blame our selves. That's a tough one.Hard to just blame Wally world when the major lending institutions have sold out to foreign investers. Your home loan through Citigroup is most likely held by someone with a last name of middle east decent, or Mandrin.
Amazing. We won WWll, not because we had better equipment, or superior soldiers. We won because we had GM, Chrysler, Ford, International Harvestor, McDonnell Douglas, etc. We out produced the other side, and as time passed, our equipment did surpass the Axis. We made our own steel, and had craftsmen, welders, tool, and die makers, patternmakers, pipefitters. Skilled workers who had, and worked with pride.
How do you suppose that compares with being a Walmart greeter, where you wear the flag on your shirt, and don't have a clue why.
Maybe when the Chinese get tired of sellin us stuff, and just decide to take the place over, about the only thing we can do is throw hot Starbucks double lataes at em, and some Dunkin donuts. With a little luck they'll all die of high cholesteral before the take over the whole country. Then we'll have to get some illegals to clean em up I guess. Sorry for the rant.

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Well said.

"We have seen the enemy and he is us." (From an old "Pogo" cartoon by Walt Kelly.)

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We have been given up for dead as a country several times in the last few decades. Great depression, Communist red scare, Jap's buying everything in sight in the 80's now Wal Mart and the so called "Global Warming" scare where we spend Billions to go green while the developing countries continue to have zip for regulations.

Big government and regulations is the real problem. Ask any small business owner. These are the same poor folks that are likely hurt by Wal Mart's tactics.

We will get through it. This is the greatest country ever!
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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I "Agree"........and it will happen thru "Self" Thinking individuals........and not the Sheep (Cheap) mentality.......

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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The Regulatory Beast

Any folks that are truly concerned about the loss of our manufacturing base (as I am), need look no further than your nearest state or federal office for the following;

Environmental Protection Agency
Occupational Health and Safety Administration
Internal Revenue Service
Department of Transportation
ECT. ECT. ECT.

We have quite simply allowed ourselves to be regulated out of our own jobs. Wal-Mart is one symptom, not the problem. With the current trend of our country's "race to the bottom" for low prices, "economics of scale" i.e. the Wal-Mart model, will dictate that we farm out our national defense needs to China or Iran, thereby saving the taxpayer money. If we're lucky, we'll have no strategic value to anyone by then and we can rebuild our manufacturing base. A strong manufacturing base is not only economically desirable, but essential to our national security.

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We have been given up for dead as a country several times in the last few decades. Great depression, Communist red scare, Jap's buying everything in sight in the 80's now Wal Mart and the so called "Global Warming" scare where we spend Billions to go green while the developing countries continue to have zip for regulations.

Big government and regulations is the real problem. Ask any small business owner. These are the same poor folks that are likely hurt by Wal Mart's tactics.

We will get through it. This is the greatest country ever!
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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I "Agree"........and it will happen thru "Self" Thinking individuals........and not the Sheep (Cheap) mentality.......

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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The Regulatory Beast

Any folks that are truly concerned about the loss of our manufacturing base (as I am), need look no further than your nearest state or federal office for the following;

Environmental Protection Agency
Occupational Health and Safety Administration
Internal Revenue Service
Department of Transportation
ECT. ECT. ECT.

We have quite simply allowed ourselves to be regulated out of our own jobs. Wal-Mart is one symptom, not the problem. With the current trend of our country's "race to the bottom" for low prices, "economics of scale" i.e. the Wal-Mart model, will dictate that we farm out our national defense needs to China or Iran, thereby saving the taxpayer money. If we're lucky, we'll have no strategic value to anyone by then and we can rebuild our manufacturing base. A strong manufacturing base is not only economically desirable, but essential to our national security.

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And don't forget the Lawyers that sue for every little thing that also drive up the "Cost" of doing business in the U.S..........Do you think in their short term goal of getting as much as they can from Litigation that they care if they drive Corporate America out of their own country to do Business elsewhere?? (Look into how John Edwards made all his Money)......As I said Earlier.....This is a very difficult problem to solve in a Free Enterprise Economy...

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Man Kwizz, You Hodges and Schonye for President!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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You should have heard him before his vacation..https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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China has a population of just over 1 Billion people, and about as much real estate as the lower 48 states. The level of poverty is staggering compared to the USA, and the communist government is just now loosening up enough to allow a middle class, thanks to our demand for cheap products.
Keep in mind that the reason for China's "one child per family" rule is to prevent the inevitable population explosion. Women are second class citizens, hence the export of girls for adoption by Americans. The reason for bringing this up is that there will soon be a critical shortage of natural resources to support the growth and modernazation of China. The price of oil will double to $200 a barrel as we are outbid by China with our own money that bought all that cheap stuff. The people there are tired of riding their bikes to work, and GM is now building cars for them. They can't make enough steel or concrete to keep up the pace of modernization. When they run out, they will not have the materials to expand the infrastructure they need. Nothing like driving to work on a dirt road.
Now substitute the name India for China. Guess what, they will have the same problems, except that they have more people with less government, so corruption is even worse than China.
As the Chinese like to say, "May you live in interesting times". https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif