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Dog427435 11-10-2007 01:36 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car
 
Kim
I have had that number plate since about 1980/81 -
I did not renew it to the current style blue & white NY plate a few years ago as its much more lax in Pa.
That car has seen action from tracks on the Island to Cecil County, but mostly on the street.
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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...0Chevy/C30.jpg
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Dog427435 11-11-2007 07:19 PM

'68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
Hopefully the final word on this!




Believers & Non-Believers:
I noticed that there seems to be a controversy over the shot of daylight under the front wheels of the '68 Baldwin-Motion A/MP Camaro taken on Sunrise Highway. Non-Believers doubt the ability of the Camaro to actually pull the wheels on the street.

Since I'm the guy who took the photo with a real camera (Nikon FTN) and real film (Kodak TriX) and still has the negatives, I can assure you that this is the real deal.
It was during dyno-testing and Joel Rosen or Billy Mitchell backed it off the dyno and on to the street.
There were two passes and both times the car hooked up and yanked the front wheels. The headers were open which explains the "smoke" under the front of the car.
The car, sponsored by Motion Supercar Club and CARS Magazine, went on to set a number of NHRA National Records and drive Grumpy Jenkins crazy!

It was the poster car for our "Win On Sunday, Sell On Monday" program which established Baldwin-Motion
as the premier builder and marketer of niche market musclecars. And, we still are!

And no, neither Joel nor I have a clue as to where this car is today.
Enjoy,
Marty


Martyn L. Schorr
PMPR, Inc.

mockingbird812 11-11-2007 07:22 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
Most excellent! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Dog427435 11-11-2007 07:26 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
[b] Here is a copy of that shot from Marty, which is much clearer!

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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...iseHwy1968.jpg
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MosportGreen66 11-11-2007 07:29 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
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[b] Here is a copy of that shot from Marty, which is much clearer!

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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...iseHwy1968.jpg
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No Photoshop here... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

mockingbird812 11-11-2007 07:38 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
Car looks to be nice and stiff https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif . What was done to accomplish this? I don't see a roll bar in this photo.

4274speed 11-11-2007 07:51 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
From National Dragster,For Sale National Record Holder Dennis Ferrara's A/MP 68 Camaro SRD Prepared,Practically New-Will run under A&B/MP Index and Record.Best of 9.31@ 146 MPH A/FD Commitment Forces Sale Complete or car only $4500 Fresh 432 Pro Short.....$2500 Ran 7.82 in A/ED 9.30 A/MP After 9PM Call Dennis Ferrara (516) 543-6XXX

x Baldwin Motion 11-11-2007 07:53 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hopefully the final word on this!




Believers & Non-Believers:
I noticed that there seems to be a controversy over the shot of daylight under the front wheels of the '68 Baldwin-Motion A/MP Camaro taken on Sunrise Highway. Non-Believers doubt the ability of the Camaro to actually pull the wheels on the street.

Since I'm the guy who took the photo with a real camera (Nikon FTN) and real film (Kodak TriX) and still has the negatives, I can assure you that this is the real deal.
It was during dyno-testing and Joel Rosen or Billy Mitchell backed it off the dyno and on to the street.
There were two passes and both times the car hooked up and yanked the front wheels. The headers were open which explains the "smoke" under the front of the car.
The car, sponsored by Motion Supercar Club and CARS Magazine, went on to set a number of NHRA National Records and drive Grumpy Jenkins crazy!

It was the poster car for our "Win On Sunday, Sell On Monday" program which established Baldwin-Motion
as the premier builder and marketer of niche market musclecars. And, we still are!

And no, neither Joel nor I have a clue as to where this car is today.
Enjoy,
Marty


Martyn L. Schorr
PMPR, Inc.

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so, whats cooking now? humble pie or crow? and who's eating it? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Kim_Howie 11-11-2007 08:31 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
That answers what I wanted to know. I'm wrong OK
I love that picture!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Dog427435 11-11-2007 09:40 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
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From National Dragster,For Sale National Record Holder Dennis Ferrara's A/MP 68 Camaro SRD Prepared,Practically New-Will run under A&B/MP Index and Record.Best of 9.31@ 146 MPH A/FD Commitment Forces Sale Complete or car only $4500 Fresh 432 Pro Short.....$2500 Ran 7.82 in A/ED 9.30 A/MP After 9PM Call Dennis Ferrara (516) 543-6XXX

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Is this the same car? -Ferrara ran under Motion sponsorship for years but-the ad shows SRD prepared - this would be SRD Race Cars (now S&W Race Cars) out of PA.
I thought all chassis work, etc., was done by Motion on this car??
Either way let me have those last three digits of the phone number - I'm interested in making an offer!

55chevy 11-12-2007 12:23 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
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[b] Here is a copy of that shot from Marty, which is much clearer!

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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...iseHwy1968.jpg
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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

55chevy 11-12-2007 12:40 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
Anyone have any color pictures of this car? Here's a pic someone posted on another site.. Look whats driving by in the background. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...1177642810.jpg

Dog427435 11-12-2007 03:58 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
Great picture
Note the stock SS hood!

Mr70 11-12-2007 04:00 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
Nice color capture of the past!

x Baldwin Motion 11-12-2007 05:39 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
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That answers what I wanted to know. I'm wrong OK
I love that picture!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif Now..... about those Volkswagons!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Kim_Howie 11-12-2007 06:50 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
Hey I said I was wrong, what do you want my first born!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

PeteLeathersac 11-12-2007 07:22 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
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Hey I said I was wrong, what do you want my first born!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

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No...just your Gibb car!.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif



And great pic Ed!.
Any good news from the weekend sale...if that's even possible?.
I took a look at the auction site cars listed...just couldn't bring myself to cruise any tools or personal stuff..

~ Pete
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

Kim_Howie 11-12-2007 07:29 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
I dont think so. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

DarrenX33 11-12-2007 11:23 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
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[b] Here is a copy of that shot from Marty, which is much clearer!

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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...iseHwy1968.jpg
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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif Did you get that full size? Would make a great desktop. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Kim_Howie 11-13-2007 12:05 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
Antbody notice the 4 door Rambler in the other lane, it looks like it has air under it's front tires too. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Charley Lillard 11-13-2007 12:07 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
Put down the beer.

Kim_Howie 11-13-2007 12:10 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
OK I thought about it Pete. I would rather give you my first born!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

Seattle Sam 11-13-2007 12:17 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
Anybody else notice the two slot-looking things under the front bumper - what are those? Looks like the old 4-4-2 cold air intakes maybe..

ORIGLS6 11-13-2007 01:00 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
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Antbody notice the 4 door Rambler in the other lane, it looks like it has air under it's front tires too. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gifYou just don't quit, do ya? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...moknMirorz.jpg

Kim_Howie 11-13-2007 01:47 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
Sam that's stock on 67 & 68's factory air dam

Seattle Sam 11-13-2007 02:30 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
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Sam that's stock on 67 & 68's factory air dam

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I apologize if I'm being dense, here is the area I am looking at

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...airdamarea.jpg

and here is a 68 Z with front spoiler

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...8Z28airdam.jpg

They don't look the same? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Thanks

ORIGLS6 11-13-2007 04:07 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
Looks like some 442 kinda stuff to me too. Didn't B/M offer a cold air system?

Xplantdad 11-14-2007 03:23 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
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Antbody notice the 4 door Rambler in the other lane, it looks like it has air under it's front tires too. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gifYou just don't quit, do ya? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...moknMirorz.jpg

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Hey Dennis...my picture of your car doesn't look like that... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

x Baldwin Motion 11-14-2007 03:42 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gifYou just don't quit, do ya? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...moknMirorz.jpg

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Hey Dennis...my picture of your car doesn't look like that... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Is that a bottle jack and a smoke machine?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

say it ain't so ... VW wheelie's and smoke

Born30YrsLate 11-18-2007 04:10 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
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Anybody else notice the two slot-looking things under the front bumper - what are those? Looks like the old 4-4-2 cold air intakes maybe..

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Here's an article on the ram air set-up...
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...EESBARREL1.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...EESBARREL2.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...EESBARREL3.jpg

Born30YrsLate 11-18-2007 04:14 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
...and then some more on the car/motor...
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2..._68RaceCar.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...68RaceCar1.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...68RaceCar2.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...68RaceCar3.jpg

Dog427435 11-25-2007 06:59 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
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Anyone have any color pictures of this car? Here's a pic someone posted on another site.. Look whats driving by in the background. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...1177642810.jpg

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[b] I know I have some pictures of this somewhere - but none I can find!
The OUTA' SITE was campaigned by Champman Automotive and driven for a time by Terry Hedrick.
Here are a couple shots of some very similar cars taken at NY National.

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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...evy/syc017.jpg
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Seattle Sam 11-25-2007 09:21 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
Thanks Fred - good article! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

What was the Motion part number for that ram air setup again? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

-Sam

firez 01-05-2008 08:11 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car
 
Looking at that wheelie I remember back in grade 11 math class in 1972 staring out the class windows watching muscle cars coming in and out of the parking lot during class. Guess thats why I had a 51% average in class. I drive by the school often and just smile when I look at the parking lot and think back to the day. The school had a 50 year homecoming last year and all the car guys from school 35 years ago showed up in the cars they own today. My 68 Z,2 -427 vettes,mustangs galore,440 cuda,roadrunner,and some early novas.

Salvatore 01-05-2008 09:24 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car
 
I do the same thing you do. Always thinking about the old days. You drive by several places. Closed up gas stations and factories, etc. and remember seeing what was parked in the lots as you drove buy or left school or work each day. My old memory is always working. I do this https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif to jar it loose at times. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

firez 01-05-2008 10:26 PM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car
 
Yes those were the days,39 a gallon for high test and a set of slicks for under 100 bucks, and then we had to grow up.

Dog427435 03-05-2008 01:07 AM

Re: '68 Camaro A/MP race car -TO THE NONBELIEVERS!
 
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Anybody else notice the two slot-looking things under the front bumper - what are those? Looks like the old 4-4-2 cold air intakes maybe..

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