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Pete, I have one of those intakes too, but in better condition, and with the oil splash shield. I tried to sell mine some time ago with no luck. Very, very limited market.... The casting date on mine is 1-15-63, just before Daytona https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...tz/bottomw.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...tz/tOPVIEW.jpg Note: This is not an ad!! Verne |
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A friend of mine who owns a complete Mystery Motor told me that the exhaust port configuration (geometry) is close to identicle to the current Z06 engine. Pretty amazing.
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[b] Found a bunch of stuff
- - Daytona - 1963 - don't you just love the parking lots!! - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/Day69046.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/Day69044.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/Day69045.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/Day69043.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/Day69048.jpg - THE MYSTERY MOTOR - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/Day69049.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/Day69050.jpg - |
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[b] Smokey's new driver Johnny Rutherford
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[b] Ray Fox / Junior Johnson move on from Chevrolet
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The Clements
- - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/Day69047.jpg - What's wrong with this picture?? |
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Great pics as usual Dog...is the what's wrong picture the fact that it's the '64 Mercury in the photo and not one of our beloved Chevys?.
Love the six lug hubs/wheels on the '62!. Nice gas price...30.9 a gallon!. And very cool the 'Mystery' intake Verne...is it a used piece? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif. ~ Pete https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif |
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Great pics as usual Dog...is the what's wrong picture the fact that it's the '64 Mercury in the photo and not one of our beloved Chevys?. - That's it!! |
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Pete,
The intake I have shows signs of being bolted to an engine, but I can find no evidence that it ever had water in it. Verne |
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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...5/Day69045.jpg [/ QUOTE ] Note that the black '63 box-top Galaxie has 427 wheel covers! FE birds on the front fenders too. |
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Check the price of gas at far right: 30.9 cents!
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Bill...they misplaced the decimal! It's supposed to be 3.09! LOL https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif
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[b] Couple more Race Shops
- Holman Moody - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/nf002.jpg - Bud Moore Engineering - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/nf003.jpg - |
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Here's a few shot's of a Mystery Engine i took at Smokey's Garage Sale just after he passed away..The BellHousing read (Adios Chevelle Curtiss Turner Feb 1967 BeachRace and Atlanata 67 ).Check out the lower part of the housing ..It had a tri power intake and a TI tach drive Dist and Alum heads ...
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WOW!!!! Do you remember what it went for?
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C1SS,
I don't think those photos are of a "Mystery Motor". First of all, those motors were not sanctioned to race in anything in '67. Chevy never made a 3x2 intake for one (although Smokey could have made anything). There were no aluminum heads or water pump ever noted for that engine. I've never heard of a set of 4-tube headers made for that engine. Nascar required factory exhaust manifolds in '63. IF you look closely at the front of the intake, it doesn't have the same shape as the mystery motor. (scroll up and look at the shape of the intake I posted and compare) It all looks like a MK-IV to me. Just my opinion. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gifVerne |
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The big sheet of paper attached to the front of the motor "claimed" it to be a Mystery Motor. Take it up with Smokey when you get to the other side .... These are just some cool shots of real race history.
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Yes, anything that was in Smokey's shop is and was a treat in racing history. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif
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[b] Back in the early sixties when NASCAR was still in its infancy there were no big promoters
except for the France family. The race results were not published in any of our local papers and forget about television or radio coverage. But it was different back then - if you wrote away to your favorite driver, or garage, or even NASCAR - someone would almost always respond. My Mom and I had a scrapbook, and we wrote away to everyone. Hell, even "THE BEST DAMN GARAGE IN TOWN" took the time to reply and gave us a new lead to boot! - - - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa012.jpg - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa018.jpg - - NASCAR would send you shots of your favorite drivers Joe Weatherly & Fireball Roberts were my favorites! How could you not cheer for a driver named Fireball? - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa017.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa016.jpg - |
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[b] If you wrote to the tracks they would send you anything from flyers to bumper stickers
to rule books! - - That's a bright yellow bumper sticker - sorry it would not scan well. - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa019.jpg - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa023.jpg - - (The bumper sticker was too large for the scanner!) - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa024.jpg - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa021.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa022.jpg - |
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[b] Drivers took the time to personally respond to cards and picture requests -
Note Lee & Richard's autographs on the front! - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa020.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa028.jpg - - Buck & a young Buddy Baker - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa025.jpg - - Fred Lorenzen responding to a get well card after a bad accident - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...35/aa029-1.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa030.jpg - |
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[b] Newsprint coverage was very limited in NY, we had The Illustrated Speedway News but it was mostly local stuff. (Though I did see a NASCAR GN race at Islip in '64- All the cars barely fit on the track - Richard Petty won)
You had to subscribe to the NASCAR Newsletter to get all the scoop! - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa014.jpg - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa026.jpg - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa027.jpg - - Check it out - Ned Jarrett won $1100 for winning the race at Old Dominion Speedway - A lap ahead of everyone else!! - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa015.jpg - |
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DAMN Glenn..........You're blowing me away!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
You saved EVERYTHING!!!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif Verne |
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Great stuff!
Ironically, Fireball Roberts was badly burned in a 1964 crash and died of pneumonia in the hospital several weeks later. Joe Weatherly died at Riverside in 1964 when his Merc slid hard into the wall and his head actually hit the wall. From this crash came the window nets we see today. |
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Earnhart was my all time favorite - see what happens when I root for you!
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[b] Couple old articles relating to the 500
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On June 1-3, at the WINE COUNTRY CLASSIC at Infinion Raceway, Vic Edelbrock showed off his new HOLLY FARM POLTRY 63 CHEVROLET. Do you suppose it is the old Fireball car??
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Up until a year ago there were 2 clones known to exist. Junior himself owns one. I think it's been established that the original car no longer exists. I'm not sure where the car you saw came from. It could be Junior's or Floyd's or a new one.
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Off topic, but there are two of the NASCAR Superbirds left in existance. One is in the Petty museum, the other belonged to a relative of mine (and driver), Ramo Stott, until a few years ago. A collector in Ohio (I believe) now owns the car. Original engine-- VERY complete car. I have some video of it running that I can send someone if interested. Send me a PM.
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The one in the Petty Museum -
- - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa053.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa052.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...7435/aa054.jpg - |
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The Petty Museum Superbird is not an original Nascar Superbird. It was never even used in competition. It's a clone that was put together by the Petty's in the very late 70's out of spare parts they had lying around because Richard thought he should have one since he thought then that they were a piece of history.
There is a real Petty Superbird that is the only survivor out of the 2 he had that year in the hands of a collector in Virginia. It's supposedly unrestored and the guy built a special room in his house especially for the car. The same guy also has the 1984 Pontiac "200th Win" car. |
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[b] Starting line up for the "500" and a couple articles on those bad Chevy's!
- - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...evy/a028-1.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...evy/a024-1.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...evy/a027-1.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...evy/a026-1.jpg - |
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Mopar Steve,
I thought the Petty "200th win" car is in The Smithsonian. At least when I was there in the late 80's it was shown as the real thing and not a clone for display purposes. http://americanhistory.si.edu/collec...amp;objkey=127 ------------------------ Chris 1966 Yenko Stinger YS-070 1967 Yenko Stinger YS-199 Southeast of Disorder |
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Great photos, just amazing history on these cars. Did you ever see the Bubba (Marion) Farr 1963 car as well? I know out of the 5 1963 mystery motor cars that qualified his was by far the slowest due to 427 reliablity issues. As I recollect the only 1963 427 Chevrolet that finished had been Smokey Yunick/Johnny Rutherford who placed 9th place at Daytona. I'm sure he would of won had it not been for that back stretch wipe out on turn #2. I think AJ Foyt ran the car afterwards briefly for Smokey. I recollect Rex White having head gasket/cooling issues with his '63 as well, and Junior's waterpump went out as well. I'm not sure what happened to teammate GC Spencer's car nor Bubba Farr's either during the 1963 Daytona 500, great photos again, thanks.
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Raj,
This is from a friend of mine who is a NASCAR historian: Rex White is shown as finishing 14th at Daytona and still running. Smokey's car is shown: 3/17 driven by AJ on at Atlanta--- not finishing (Trans)......6/2 driven by Banjo Matthews at Charlotte---not finishing (diff.).....7/4 driven by A.J at Daytona firecracker 400---not finishing (engine).......9/2 driven by Buck Baker at Darlington--- finishing 10th........ 10/3 driven by Bobby Isaac at Charlotte not finishing (crash). There may be others I missed. Rex White switched to Mercury at least by 7/4. The G.C Spencer/Ray Fox car is listed as out (engine) and the Bubba Farr/W M Harrison out (fuel pump). Verne https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif |
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[b] Came across this article in the May 1963 issue of Hot Rod
Check out the Prestolite battery - - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...tos/Imp516.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...tos/Imp518.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...tos/Imp519.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...tos/Imp520.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...tos/Imp521.jpg - http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...tos/Imp522.jpg - |
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