Re: 70 RS Z28
 

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I think CamarosRus' question means, the stamped locations should have the same alpha numerics and number of digits since they were stamped at the same time using the same gang stamp....all EXACTLY the same. . So a genuine factory stamping mistake would be on all locations? . ~ Pete

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The partial VIN will be a smaller stamp text size.
70N123456

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I think you're referring to how the partial Vin stamp is smaller than the suffix/date stamp? . All partial Vin gang-stampings should be the same as each other since the same tool was used on each location. ~ Pete

Re: 70 RS Z28
 

You'd think so

http://www.nastyz28.com/2gcog/blkvin.jpg

Prob done at different locations.

Re: 70 RS Z28
 

Sample of a vette 1965 327/300
http://ww2.netnitco.net/users/rclark...e/padstamp.jpg

1965 vette
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...2/IM001941.jpg

It's unusual to find either an engine plant stamp or an assembly plant VIN stamp where the characters all have absolutely equal depth and definition; there were many variables involved in the length and wear of the individual dies, angle at which the holder was held, direction of the hammer blow, etc. Many restamps, however, are "perfect".

Re: 70 RS Z28
 

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You'd think so

http://www.nastyz28.com/2gcog/blkvin.jpg

Prob done at different locations.

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Good example w/ this '73 unit shown....I can't figure out how to include pics? . Anyway, all 9 digits are on this example engine pad shown so would be exactly the same on the rest of the stamped partial Vin locations. . If one of the digits was upside-down or missing it would be the same on all other stamped partial Vin locations. . With the subject thread car missing the first two digits, if genuine the other locations should have the same mistake. ~ Pete

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Same with this 68 Camaro. 2 sizes of stamps. So there are 2 stamping dies that are used.

http://www.chevy-camaro.com/images/E...partialVIN.jpg

Partial VIN is "18U199887"
The partial VIN can also be on the oil filter flange instead of on the pad with the engine code.

The 70 should be stamped on the pad and by the oil filter flange. Where the 68 may only be in one of the 2.

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Yes we know the engine/suffix stamp is larger....it's the partial Vin only that I'm referring to. . Aside from user quirks, all locations should be the same exact stamping, mistakes and all. . The subject car needs other partial Vin locations viewed to compare to the engine pad w/ missing digits. . Thanks! ~ Pete

Re: 70 RS Z28
 

sorry, got it.

Include pics?

get the http site and paste it after [img] site name here[/img]

Re: 70 RS Z28
 

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Also a partial VIN will be on the pad, IE 70N123456


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That is totally incorrect for a 1970 stamp. 70 does not indicate 1970.

The correct stamp would be: 10N567890
1=Chevrolet
0=1970
N=Norwood
567890=Sequence number.

Rick H.

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Same with this 68 Camaro. 2 sizes of stamps. So there are 2 stamping dies that are used.

http://www.chevy-camaro.com/images/E...partialVIN.jpg

Partial VIN is "18U199887"
The partial VIN can also be on the oil filter flange instead of on the pad with the engine code.

The 70 should be stamped on the pad and by the oil filter flange. Where the 68 may only be in one of the 2.

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Your example is very wrong.
The engine you posted did not come out of a 1968 Camaro. No Camaros were built in Lordstown, Ohio. That motor actually came out of 1969 passenger car. "HK" was used in 1969 to designate 350/300 with powerglide. The number before the "U" is a "9". "U" is for Lordstown, Ohio. Passenger cars were built at Lordstown.

Also 1968 Camaro VIN's started with 300001 and 1969 Camaro started with 500001. So that motor never came out of Camaro.

Also I have yet to see a 1968 motor with the partial VIN stamped in the rough casting by the oil filter.

Rick H.

Re: 70 RS Z28
 

oops
Also a partial VIN will be on the pad, IE 70N123456
I meant 1 where the 7 is. Blond moment.

The picture and info about the 68 was from a tag site. My only intention was to show the 2 different font sizes.

Re: 70 RS Z28
 

I just bought this car officially on tues. You can imagine how shocked I was when a friend of mine sent me this link. When I saw it was my new car being questioned I nearly puked!!! Until I saw the forum I was completely happy with my new baby. I have been looking for about 1 1/2 years for the right car and it always seemed to elude me. Some just plain went for too much or the one I really wanted at Legendary Motorcar in June I missed by 24 hrs. because I waited to phone them instead of E-mailing them immediately.To make a long story short, I thought I missed this one as well when it first went off e-bay. When my wife found it relisted I took it as fate. I jumped on this one. To my novice knowledge I was satisfied everything was proper. I once vowed to not buy w/o docs but somehow I felt secure with this one. Documentation always seemed to put the price up just out of my reach. BUYER BEWARE!!! No one but myself to blame for my now bleeding ulcer and baggy eyes. I want to make it clear I don not blame the seller in any way. I think some of you know who he is and I want to make it clear, every option was put before me to verify things and I opted for blind faith. Is there anyone who can share some insight to how big a mistake I've made or not made. Regardless, I intend to enjoy this car to the fullest. It's only money right! I can drive this puppy without fear of depreiciation. I intend on using AAAuto Transport to get it here. Cheapest, and most helpfull out of 40 phone calls. Any Red FLAGS on this decision? Hope to get more sleep tonight. Thanks, Gord

Re: 70 RS Z28
 

I think as long as u are happy with the purchase that,s all that matters https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif u and your family will have a blast in that car https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif.Anyone can pick apart even the highest quality car if they have the knowledge about the make or model heck its 36 yrs old,Think of it this way u could have paid twice as much for that same car at B.J https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif.

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It's not a 100% correct car but it's a nice looking car with a nice combination of options. It appears to be a real Z28 from the trim tag as well. The partial VIN stamp on the engine does not look original so you'll have to check down by the oil filter area to determine if there is a stamping down there to know if it's the original motor. It sure looks like a fun car that will stand out in a crowd.

Re: 70 RS Z28
 

Thanks for the positive replies. I intend on checking the bell housing flange the minute I get it here. I'm just hoping I didn't pay too much. Fromthe lokks of things at B-J I may have paid premium for a car that isn't what I thought it was. But it'll be a priceless learning experience to do more research in the future. I'm actually looking forward to the research I need to do to bring this one to "more correct" condition. Notably that hacked up air cleaner. Any one got the right one? I might as well spend more money while I'm on full tilt. HaHa.

Re: 70 RS Z28
 

Don't lose sleep if the Vin is a restamp. Great looking car! Love the color combination. And great options. Enjoy it.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
Patrick

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Have you contacted the seller about the restamp ?

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Hey Grusum....congrats on your car! . Aside from the suspect restamp, this baby looks great! . Go through it completely and make your decisions on what you find, redeck the pad #'s away if their bad, correct as many things as you can....and have fun! ~ Pete

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Get repop air cleaner...they are very nice...

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I did mention it to the seller's wife, she stated that they also learned of these posts, so they got a 'Camaro guy' to come look at it and he thought it was legit.

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I made shipping arrangements on Fri. I'll keep you posted as to what I find when I actually get it in my hands and investigate everything. Fingers are still crossed tightly.

Re: 70 RS Z28
 

It looks like the correct CTB block and other then the stamp it looks like a nice car to me . Enjoy it.