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I guess what I am trying to determine is is that your car was assembled exactly as a L78 4-speed pacecar originally; fulfilling the order line that GM intended at the time, then your car just became the "MULE", if you will, to be the one or so to get the inside engine changes... It is obvious by the 03C timeline about the actual assembly, of course! I am always fascinated(sp) on how these cars were approached!

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Protecto plate that was in the glove box. Yes it was built as a 375 hp 4 speed. Before anyone claims fake...I took the pic with a mirror so it could be read. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/166253-P1010004.JPG

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For the question on if the addressograph is there... https://www.yenko.net/attachments/166327-P1010007.JPG

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work order https://www.yenko.net/attachments/166338-tn_pace.jpg

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another https://www.yenko.net/attachments/166340-tn_pace001.jpg

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Charley, of these 3 cars that you have had. This 67 pace car, the #3 1969 ZL1 and the hemi head 1969 Z/28. Which is your favorite and why? Or is there a better one that you have owned?
Mark Sheppard

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I dunno. Probably none of those because they can't be abused on a regular basis and I like driving my stuff. My favorite has probably been my red 67 Pro touring Camaro. Ask me again tomorrow and I will probably have a different answer.

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Charley, of these 3 cars that you have had. This 67 pace car, the #3 1969 ZL1 and the hemi head 1969 Z/28. Which is your favorite and why? Or is there a better one that you have owned?
Mark Sheppard

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Would this be the Cortez Silver/black rally striped 69 Smokey Yunick Hemi Z, now owned by Gary Holub? I know Gary, and we have discussed his Yunick Z before.

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No. Mine was a Yellow RS Z with yellow houndstooth.. Garys started life as a plain Z28 just like mine did.

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Since there were only 5 Smokey Z's, I figured that this "might" be the same one.

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There were NO Smokey Z's. There were several engines and even more sets of heads and intakes that were built by Chevrolet and sent to Smokey for evaluation but no cars were ever built. There was a auction at Smokeys a few years back and the engines got sold. The silver one in the magazine was just a Z28 that Reggie Jackson put one of the engines in. All the lettering on the car and headrests has been added lately by the current owner. The cars are nothing more than neat engine stands. Mine was built by Dave Tinell for Carl Dwiggins with another engine from the same auction. Reggie still has a complete engine on a stand. I think Dick Bridges might have also had a engine installed in a car.

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Yes I know and agree that there were no Smokey Z's. I was referring to the Yunick auction where the engines were sold and eventually got installed into a few Z's. I have always called them Yunick Z's, even though he didn't do any modifications on the cars, just own the engines at one time.
I am aware of Jackson installing the Hemi into Gary's car. It's a shame that Yunick never got around or was interested in installing the Hemis into the Z's himself.

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------Al Maynard also had a silver 69 Z/28 with one of the Yunick engines. I saw the engine out of the car and then installed in the car at a later date. Dont know the configuration of the rest of the car, 4-wheel disc, etc. I havent thought about that car for quite awhile, and am unsure where it resides today.........Bill S

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Al Maynard's Pace Car---- https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif https://www.yenko.net/attachments/166552-aynard.jpg

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I'd guess that's the same as this car (see attached). What are the details on Al's car? 427 powered?

-Jon

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350 ----------------------- https://www.yenko.net/attachments/166597-aynard22222.jpg -sorry for the hijack

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Thanks, Joe. Hey Charley, does the pace car's protect-o-plate show signs of being glued into a booklet at one time or has it always been loose like that?

-Jon

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Yes it was glued to something and then torn out. Al Young did not think it had a protecto plate when I asked him about it but I found it in the glove box.

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My 68 L34 has a factory 3:07 posi.I think the 3:08 was for the sb. Don't know if it was the same in 67.

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Hey Charley,

Do you know that your Pace Car might be the 1st production 375hp Camaro? If I am not mistaken, Grumpy's '67 is 195XXX, and his was supposed to be the 1st. Maybe Kim can confirm this, as I forgot to write down the vin on the car at Kansas City last spring, but I thought it was 195xxx.

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Did not know that...

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Ken, I found my papers from that weekend. Kimble's Car VIN # is 197055 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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The back-up 396 pace car has a lower VIN than Charley's. The VIN number itself does not prove or disprove anything. The cars did not necessarily come down the assembly line by order of VIN. Any of these first three L78 cars is extremely desirable regardless of which one was actually built first.

-Jon