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noticed the corner spoiler i took off has a diamond shaped insignia with the letters AOS & what looks like a numerical number 1 under it then it say's LT.3990475. got the pre-delivery sheet & it states options & say's AIR SPOILER. Gutting the interior today to look for a build sheet.
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Thanks for the positive feedback on my car. As for future plans, I'm leaving it as is for now. I'm not going to put it back to factory original. In response to the earlier comments about the rear spoiler, the tall 3-piece did not replace the 1 piece until April 1971 (my car was built in February 1971). The following comes from an email between Mad Mike and myself discussing the subject. "...Prior to to April 1971, the tall spoiler had to be requested, most easily, via the COPO 9796 to insure the correct spoiler went on the car, otherwise GM would have slapped whatever was in the bin on the car (the 1-piece spoiler). Since it was requested, the build sheet might give this away. It would still say D-80, but the code in the specific box may indicate the COPO number, or it may be hand written on the sheet to put the other spoiler on. GM knew what COPO 9796 was, it didn't expire just because 1970 ended. After April 1971, it became unnecessary and irrelevant (RPO D-80, regular production order). Prior to that, if someone wanted the cool tall spoiler, all someone had to do was drop the COPO number, and it would start ringing bells. Without the build sheet, it is impossible to prove or disprove anything, since anyone with a drill could install a spoiler." This should clear up any confusion. [ QUOTE ] I do not think anybody is confused. RPO D-80 was the box to check in 1971 You say so above. If personnel at the dealership or in the zone were confused in early 71 with the new product that is possible. This however is fact: Chevrolet was out of the Factory backed T/A racing support at the end of 70. COPO 9796 as an engineering order was also finished then. I did not speak to anyone with a web site on this - I spoke in detail with Vince Piggins in 1985 about COPO 9796 and he was very clear that the need for a COPO ended when the 1971 year started with the RPO change. Author Gary Whitzenburg also has a couple of pages on the 70 COPO T/A Spoilers in his book "Camaro challenger to Champion" Published around 1980. Have a look. You still have a great car! Phil https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif Jeff [/ QUOTE ] |
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noticed the corner spoiler i took off has a diamond shaped insignia with the letters AOS & what looks like a numerical number 1 under it then it say's LT.3990475. got the pre-delivery sheet & it states options & say's AIR SPOILER. Gutting the interior today to look for a build sheet. [/ QUOTE ] That is the maker of the end cap. They were all made by AO Smith Co. You have the Left hand cap there. The rest is the Part #. Phil https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif |
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I agree with Phil on this one. It looks like D80 was RPO by then and the invoice notes exactly how the RPO would have looked on the window sticker, which is not how it would have looked as a COPO #.
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gutted the interior,even pulled the headliner down didn't ruin anything ,but also didn't find any thing .even took out the gas tank.any other suggestions as to where i might possibly find the build sheet? under the carpet & interior panels was so beautiful it was if it had just came off the assembly line.had many musclecar nuts stop by throughout the afternoon who had heard i was pulling the car apart, just couldn't believe the condition everything was in & that i was actually pulling it apart.
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Typically Norwood cars did not have them, for some reason they were discarded.
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"COPO 9796 and he was very clear that the need for a COPO ended when the 1971 year started with the RPO change."
so..then any car from july 70 and newer had tall spoiler as a regular D80 rpo and not a copo. \ |
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Sorry, Here is a copy of my long lost 71z's original window sticker showing the RPO D80 option. By the way if anyone knows of this car I would sure like to find it. Long story on its history.
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"COPO 9796 and he was very clear that the need for a COPO ended when the 1971 year started with the RPO change." so..then any car from july 70 and newer had tall spoiler as a regular D80 rpo and not a copo. You are real close. '71 model year started concurrent with the short UAW Strike that year as 70 production shut down at the end of August. Strike was timed for the '71 roll out on September 14, 1970 as I recall. Phil https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif |
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How about the performance options on this one...D80, M22, 4.10 gears, and the car is still around to go with it. Hopefully it will be coming out of a long hibernation very soon. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif
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I just got a call from my good friend and he gave me the good news that he's finally got a deal done on this super cool '71 Z28. It's a local original owner car that was ordered from a nearby dealer that's still in business. Mulsanne Blue/black stripes/black standard gut M-22 with special order 4.10 gears. The kicker is it's supposedly all #'s matching and shows only 14XXX on the clock. The original owner mentioned having the protect-o-plate, and you've seen the above post of the genny original window sticker. I think he said the car's been painted, and has had new carpet and door panels put in because it got some water damage at some point during it's long slumber, but otherwise it looks like a '71 Z28 that's been hiding since the mid 70's. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif
I'm supposed to go see the car tonite. I'll get spolier and build info when I see the car. Anything in particular I should pay close attention to? Second Gen Camaros are not my specialty, but this one sounds like it should have plenty of original markings and such in place. |
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Dennis Thomas from Springfield,IL has his multi award winning 71 Z-28 featured in the newest Chevy Rumble along with Don Stowers 67 Z-28. Dennis who hangs out at www.nastyz28 is going to be one of the most knowledgeable 71 Z-28 guys around along with Bob Routt and others.....
Send me PM at [email protected] for Dennis's Email....... Chuck S |
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I got a chance to see the car tonite and it's definitely a sweetheart, legit low mile Z. The story goes the original owner purchased the car from Vietnam through his good friend who's father happened to own a local Chevrolet dealer. All his friends back home had purchased brightly colored Mopars and he wanted something different. He wanted something light, fast, and Chevrolet...so naturally he picked the Z28, and demanded the M22 heavy duty gearbox, D80 spoiler package, and 4.10 gears so it would be sure to get going for street/strip racing. A few other select options, like the super rare NK2 "Custom Steering Wheel" and an AM radio were about it. Dressed in Mulsanne Blue with black trim it's definitely a pretty cool Z28.
It's unfortunately been repainted about 12 years ago, where I'm sure alot of originality was lost, but it seems to have been backtaped leaving much of the original Mulsanne in the jambs and under the decklid. The trunk has been resprayed in an amateur attempt to fluff a trunk that likely looked tired after years of sitting in storage, but the good part is the sheetmetal is unheard of on a car that spent it entire life in these parts and the floor pans even show original red oxide showing through the peeling undercoat. It also appears to have been 'black rattle can' detailed underneath at one point, but all in all the car is 99% complete. https://www.yenko.net/attachments/165368-FullView.jpg |
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Here's the M22, and even though it's impossible to photograph, the VIN stamp is present there too 71N568609. Also I noted a PIC05C I think...anyone decode that?
https://www.yenko.net/attachments/165380-M22.jpg Also, on the rear pass axle tube I tried my best to scrub the grime free to read what I think was G1052E ??? Does that make any sense? I was expecting to find CB. |
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Tube stamp
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The starter appears to have been hammered on once or twice. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif
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PIC05C:
P=Muncie Plant I=is actually a 1 for 1971 C=Month,March 05=Day assembled 5th. C=M-22 transmission G1052E: CB should be in front of the letter "G".This would be typical. CB=4:10 Posi G=Assembly plant,Detroit Gear & Axle 105=Day assembled,105th day is roughly April 15th. 2=Shift E=Eaton Posi |
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Original red oxide primer peekin' through. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif You NEVER see this on a PA car.
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This steering wheel is an interesting story in itself. The original owner wanted the optional NK4 "4 spoke steering wheel" he saw in his December '70 issue of Motor Trend that showcased the new for '71 models. He must have mistook the NK2 "custom steering wheel" option for what he though he wanted, because the car was built and delivered with this rare NK2 "custom" wheel. The grain is perfect, since he removed it soon after taking delivery of the car and had the 4 spoke NK4 installed. Only 621 Camaros got this oddball NK2 "custom" wheel.
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Here's the Motor Trend and sales brochure he looked at to decide what he'd order while overseas. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif
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Some of the other hard to source goodies that the original owner was smart enough to hold onto all these years. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif
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Even the inserts that go into the manifolds are here.
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Thanks for sharing!
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It's this kind of stuff that really does it for me. The original owner thought the black rubber shift knob was lame, and literally switched it out on "day 2" for a T handle. This textured rubber knob has about 5 shifts of the M22 on it. Perfect grain, impossible to find NOS, and luckily saved alongside the car all these years. Now who's got the heart to remove the T handle that's been in there all this time?
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04E build date Anyone know what that little 13 is all about?
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I'm chasing a 1970 green/green Z28 automatic that has been in the original owners hands since 1970. Nice car that I've not been able to secure yet. This green car reminds me of the one owner car.
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Eric you have any other ext shots of the car??? the paint work looks pretty good from here... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif any trunk shots of the spare tire???
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