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Thanks to James(firstgenaddict) for riding with with me yesterday. We used to cruise around in the car 20 years ago and was a trip down memory lane. I'm going to fess up to 27K
I was walking @ 26K and he offered to flip for the other $1000 and I lost thus the 27K figure. I don't mind disclosing this because it's NOT FOR SALE!!! how about some input good or bad. thanks for the input. This proves these cars are still out there. This car has not been driven 200 miles in 15 years!!

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Nice looking Z/28, that is doing what they were built to do, run on the road. This is a very attactive car, a great color, and the cost is right in the acceptable range. Heck, a restored plain jane first gen is now going for that price. Ten years from now, you will look back and never second guess yourself. Just build up a 302 motor now, while you can still find them at a reasonable price. There are real MO motors out there, or CE blocks. Who knows, maybe the orginal block is still waiting to be found. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

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I would get with the original owner ASAP. See if he can locate ANY type of documentation. While build sheet POP etc would be great, it can't hurt if he has some early pics, old inspection receipts, old insurance papers, etc.. Every little thing will help, especially with a 68.

Because you know the history, and you know it is a Z/28, I don't think the price is out of line. Does it still have the original tire decal in the glove box? I believe only the Z came with 15" tires in 68.

Congrats.

Lynn

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Yes the tire decal is still on the glove box

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I believe only the Z came with 15" tires in 68.

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Correct, 15X6 rallys

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Years ago I bought a 67 with a 427 engine that the owner told me was dealer installed.I was able to locate the original owner and asked if he had any old pictures. He had several pictures of the car with the dealer paper plates and a couple of the engine with the 427 decals. The pictures were taken on the day he got the car, were poloroids and had the date code on the back. Never hurts to ask.

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I hope I did not offend anybody by giving a low estimate. After looking at these pictures, this looks to be a very nice car and I hope you enjoy it. I am still a firm believer that there are times when its appropriate to pay a little too much for the right car because over time it always works out.
Mark Sheppard

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I think it's appropriate sometimes to pay more for a car simply because you want it! It doesn't have to come down to an IRR calc, because how do you put a 'fun' value on a car during your ownership. Just enjoy it https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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You didn't do bad at 27, its a cool looking car too...Throw a set of Wide Tread GTs on it and it would really have some eyeball... I love the blue guts, nice to see something other than basic black.

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I have a set of 15x7 torque thrusts I've been saving for several years. It also needs some detailing underneath- new brake and fuel lines, gas tank, u-bolt and bushing kit, and maybe some subframe bushings. otherwise I'll be @ the next cruise in for sure.

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Seeing the photos have me convinced its real. While documentation always helps the value, especially with a 68 Z/28, I'm guessing now that you have it back, so you'll probably never sell it. That alone should be worth paying a premium for it.

I had a chance to buy back my first Camaro two years ago. The guy wanted $12K for it (I had sold it for $1500), and knowing its history, and previous rust issues I dealt with when restoring the body 15 years ago, I new it was a stretch at what he was asking. (Original motor and tranny was gone; he changed the interior from parchment to black; and he painted it powder blue with medium blue runway stripes.) I almost bought it, but instead picked up a much cleaner Camaro for less money. Of course I now have three times that into it ... but then that's a different story.

Had my first Camaro been a Z/28 or an SS instead of just an RS, it would've been much harder to buy it back at any price. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

I say keep the 327 in it for now. It makes it a much more dependable "driver".

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The car looks good. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Does anyone know if the shifter boot and plate is correct in pic #7 ????? It's always been a non console car, even back in the 80's it didn't have a console. I bought the tilt steering column years ago, so it's not a tilt car originally.

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..you did just fine on that deal....just look at the "Clone" cars that people are paying even more for....
..that car is beautiful https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Yes the tire decal is still on the glove box

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Without the factory 302 and Muncie, this is perhaps the only way to ID a true 68 Z28 excluding original documentation. I actually clear coated the original glove box tire decal on my Van Nuys car to preserve it. Like everything else, they're being repoped too.

Although many will disagree, I'am sticking by my origianl statement:.....Without the factory motor/tranns its no longer a 68 Z28.

Got my bullet proof vest on guys......shoot me!

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Clean it up and bring it to Kevin Whitaker Chevrolet on the 13th of this month. If I'm home I will be there.
James

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Seeing the photos have me convinced its real. I say keep the 327 in it for now. It makes it a much more dependable "driver".

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You can tell it's real by looking at the pictures?? I would be curious to know how.

Obviously not by the non-original 327 or the non original shifter. What tell tale signs convinced you?

Ok, the tire decal is in the glove box. Which tire decal?

The owner clearly stated the motor was not original and the Muncie was not matching and he wasn't sure of the rearend, the rally's are not correct.

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A quick description is as follows: wrong engine-327 that looks correct- m-21 Muncie non matching##- I believe the correct rear but not sure. On a 1-10 I would call it a very nice 8 or very nice driver. The car is very solid no hit car original sheet metal with the exception of patch panels on the drivers side only. The car is not detailed underneath just spray bombed black the interior is very nice original and it does have 15x6 rallies but I don’t think they are correct.

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Now, a set of pictures proves it's a real Z/28?

Rick H.

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Does anyone know if the shifter boot and plate is correct in pic #7 ????? It's always been a non console car, even back in the 80's it didn't have a console.

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Yes, from the picture they look right. I'd have to see them in person to determine if they're original. Both are available in repop now.

You might want to unscrew the black and chrome top plate and flip it over. Originals have a cast-in part number, Repops don't.

Hope that helps.

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Although many will disagree, I'am sticking by my origianl statement:.....Without the factory motor/tranns its no longer a 68 Z28.

Got my bullet proof vest on guys......shoot me!

[/ QUOTE ] won't shoot you, just disagree with that, lets say someone has a X33 69 car and it also has a 327 engine, you're statement means that this car isn't a Z28 anymore just a modified 69 Camaro or how about a legit copo car with a 454 instead of an original 427??? same difference.
In your defense I can relate to your feelings on people trying to pass fake cars as legitimate cars and rest assured this isn't the case at all. I felt like this was a good site to get an honest opinion on the car which is what I'm getting good or bad. What about all the cars with re-stamped engines??? Would you not rather see a car with an advertised 327 than someone claiming to have a "302" only to learn 3 years later it's not??? I'm assuming your car is a numbers car but what if----- it was stamped before you bought the car???
Either way I'm thick skinned so no biggie just enjoying the input

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Can you post a picture of the trim tag? Also how about a picture of the 4 piston calipers and 2 piece rotors. The master cylinder is wrong so that doesn't help.

Alternator doesn't have the deep groove pulley so that's not correct.

How about a picture or posting of the radiator tag?

What timing decal is on the core support?

I would like to see something a little more convincing besides pictures of a nice Blue 1968 Camaro non original motor SB 4 speed car with white stripes.

Rick H.

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I'll be more than happy to post the pics but I've promised the family a trip to Gatlinburg this weekend( even invited my mother in law to smooth this car thing over).
On a little different note, a lot of people got of track with this post. I'm not trying to convince you guys it's a real car, I know it's the real deal and I'm going to enjoy the car even if it was a 6 cyl. I was curious what it was worth and have enjoyed all the input over the last few days.
Sure it would be cool to find the build sheet, pop, anything to validate the car and without anything it's almost if not impossible to prove anything on a 1968. Every item to validate the car that was just mentioned can be bought today even though there are select few that can tell the difference but not many in some cases. Don't hold your breath until I post up and say "LOOKIE WHAT I FOUND,THE POP IMAGINE THAT" I'm only interested in preserving a little piece of my past and have fun doing so. Who knows what will become available in the future only time will tell???
I wonder if Central Chevrolet in Clombia has kept any records that old?? I'll call and see, I doubt they did.

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As someone who just paid "too much" for a car just because they wanted it sooo bad because it was just like their first cool car, I completely understand where your coming from and I'd say from your story alone you did good https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

Believe me, if you get half the enjoyment I've had just looking at my car you won't regret buying it one bit.

Congrats and good luck with your new toy https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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[/ QUOTE ] won't shoot you, just disagree with that, lets say someone has a X33 69 car and it also has a 327 engine, you're statement means that this car isn't a Z28 anymore just a modified 69 Camaro

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The heart and soul of any first generation Z28 is the original high RPM 302. Without it, its just another modified Camaro. Not trying to be ugly here, but I prefer my F-Bodies with the factory drivetain intact. Reckon I've become a purist but I do enjoy nice modified cars.

I'am no expert, but I've been messin' with Camaros for over 35 years. I'am happy to say that my Van Nuys car is not a restamp.

If you like your 68, enjoy it!

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Your post is titled "1968 Z-28 what's it worth???? please help"

In order to determine what it might be worth, first you must determine if it is in fact a true 1968 Z/28. There is a HUGE difference in value between a legit Z/28 and a plain Camaro. You could be talking between $50-$100K difference. That's big.

I'll be honest, I just don't see the validity of the car with what has been posted so far.

Enjoy your car, it's a nice looking Camaro and looks like fun.

Rick H.

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I haven't read the whole thread, but if it has the orig.rear end: Bv Bu or better, a long with the 4 leaf springs, it's more likely a Z than not.I'll bet $50 this car has a single 3/8 fuel line going into the tank and the muncie speedo exit.

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$50 to 100K? Does anyone know of a '68 Z that's actually sold for $50K or more, other than the ragtop or an SCCA race car? Where is the market right now for a mid 90's restored (mostly NOS parts) #2 condition car with full original drivetrain and POP/dealer invoice? A friend of mine is thinking of buying back a car he restored and asked me for advice on market prices. Thanks.

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I haven't read the whole thread, but if it has the orig.rear end: Bv Bu or better, a long with the 4 leaf springs, it's more likely a Z than not.I'll bet $50 this car has a single 3/8 fuel line going into the tank and the muncie speedo exit.

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If some one will pm me and tell what to look at I'll check. It does have 4 leafs per side and shouldn't the cable exit closer to the center of the firewall if a Muncie car?? It will be 1st of the week before I can post anymore pics. If there are any super top secret things to check send me a PM rather than post on here to prevent more fake cars from being built.

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Redneck. Central Chevy sounded familiar to me and I pulled the documents on my 68Z. That is where my car came from. Is it still in business? Thanks, Bill D

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$50 to 100K? Does anyone know of a '68 Z that's actually sold for $50K or more, other than the ragtop or an SCCA race car?

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A 1967 Z/28 with non-original motor recently sold for $75,000. Jon Mello just pulled his 1967 off the market after considering an offer over $100,000.
A documented 1968 Z/28 should do just as well as the 1967. The one in question here was bought for $27K so doing the math is easy.

Rick H.

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Redneck. Central Chevy sounded familiar to me and I pulled the documents on my 68Z. That is where my car came from. Is it still in business? Thanks, Bill D

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This Central Chevy was in Columbia SC. and no they're no longer there I called today

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Thanks, that is the same Central Chevrolet, in Columbia SC

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Rick H. I have to think that a 67 Z has at least a $25000 premium over a 68 on a properly done car. The highest dollar sale on a 68Z that I know of is $65000, but would like to be proven wrong.

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Bill,
I would think that any 68 Z depending on rarity of options, condition, originality, documentation, etc.. can do just as well depending on certain criteria. I agree that the price would be somewhat less but I would be basing that on the few numbers of 1967 Z/28's produced. 602 compared to 7199.

If an original 1967 Z/28 is pulled off the market at $100,000 because the owner is told by a respected authority that it is underpriced, then what would a similiar 1968 model be worth? Let's say the aforementioned 1967 is underpriced by $25-50K then deducting the $25k premium from the same 1968 model in like condition would put the 1968 close to the $100K range.

A lot of factors come into value but I believe the 68 Z/28 can bring high dollars as well.

Rick H.

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Not to sound flippant, but extrapolating values based upon the nicest surviving '67 Z in existence doesn't seem prudent. That car sounds like a curve wrecker as far as establishing values of the rank and file. Also, all things being equal, I don't believe '68's could ever equal '67's or '69's for that matter. They truly are, and will probably always be, the underappreciated middle child of the marque. The fact that they're so hard to document only makes it worse.

BillD, thanks for telling of the $65K sale you've heard of. Can you tell any more about that car? Low mile survivor or killer resto? Anybody else have real money knowledge of sales of good cars in the last year? I know one of the board members turned down $40K for his after some soul searching not too long ago (was that you BillD?). I'd like to hear some others before I talk to my buddy.

Thanks again.

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I'll bet $50 this car has a single 3/8 fuel line going into the tank and the muncie speedo exit.

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At least half this bet would be pretty much a sure thing. All 67 and 68 Camaros had a single fuel line. All V8's had a single 3/8" line and all L6's had a single 5/16" line. Only the 69's (and later) with Rochester 4 barrel carbs had dual fuel lines.

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I'll be more than happy to post the pics but I've promised the family a trip to Gatlinburg this weekend( even invited my mother in law to smooth this car thing over).
On a little different note, a lot of people got of track with this post. I'm not trying to convince you guys it's a real car, I know it's the real deal and I'm going to enjoy the car even if it was a 6 cyl. I was curious what it was worth and have enjoyed all the input over the last few days.
Sure it would be cool to find the build sheet, pop, anything to validate the car and without anything it's almost if not impossible to prove anything on a 1968. Every item to validate the car that was just mentioned can be bought today even though there are select few that can tell the difference but not many in some cases. Don't hold your breath until I post up and say "LOOKIE WHAT I FOUND,THE POP IMAGINE THAT" I'm only interested in preserving a little piece of my past and have fun doing so. Who knows what will become available in the future only time will tell???
I wonder if Central Chevrolet in Clombia has kept any records that old?? I'll call and see, I doubt they did.

[/ QUOTE ]It's worth a try,a previous owner to my L78 contacted the dealer(Long Beach Chevrolet)in witch the car was sold out of and was able to give him copies of an old sales journal with the vin#, the salesman's name and the name of the guy who financed the deal for his son. Good Luck https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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"Don't count it and don't believe everything you hear. Documentation for U.S. cars will not happen.

Rick H."
And you know this because you looked through all the GM files personally ?

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It won't because all the files are long gone and shredded. Ask a US dealer what they do with their paperwork after 15 years. GM did the same. Nothing was copied onto microfiche as GM Canada did.

Id like to offer to take what ever pictures you guys want of my 1968 Z/28 I owned in 1974 but I'm thinking that a clone could be made from them https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif. So in that case, prove you have one with some paperwork and I'll take em. Let me know what parts of the car you want taken.