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Let's play nice!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Kim your point was well taken, supported by most, and it just makes sense. There are only a finite # of parts available why not use them on real cars.

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simply, the repros with those date correct parts bring more money

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Kim, you cannot play nice when a post gets deleted then suddenly re-appears from nowhere! Nothing taken personally either https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif. BTW I don't smoke. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif While working for a very prominent street rod & custom car builder in 1997 I learned a valuable lesson. The $300k street rod we were building was getting a ZL1 for motivation, not just any ZL1 but one from an original ZL1 Camaro! I tried to convince him not to use that engine as to the value of it. That is when he proceeded to remove all the numbers and casting flash from the block with a die grinder! He told me "now it is ready to be sent to the polishers." That was when I learned that these rare parts do not mean a thing to anyone outside our little world of musclecars. Since then I have changed my way of thinking, the person that is willing to spend the money will get the stuff he wants no matter what it is going to be used on no matter how rare it may be.

Frank, I had friends at that show and they all say when the awards were given out the COPO body was 2nd and then the crap hit the fan. They thought that was an injustice to the owner of the Yenko. I do not know if they fixed the problem at the show or after but your car did get a $15 award for a $60k restoration. From what I understand from a friend of mine that came up from TN was an entrant at that show, your car was in the Vintage Race Car category when he looked at it or something like that and got moved into the Supercar category sometime after judging ended. So to me the COPO body DID beat the Yenko like they announced at the awards presentation. This post will probably get deleted like my other one did earlier because it doesn't stroke everyone the same but I don't care. Nothing against your car as freinds of mine that were there said it was a nice restoration and they thought you got beat just like the Yellow L89 that didn't win. But my point is that just because a Yenko shows up at a show, no matter who's it is, it does not automatically qualify for an award. Supercar kid said it the best, [ QUOTE ]
<font color="purple"> If you're upset your real Supercar got beat by a clone at a show, then you should likely go home and shine on your Supercar until it's as fluffy as the clone, or reconsider what the $4 trophy the clone took home instead, really means to you.
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[/ QUOTE ] I myself could give a ratsass less what happened but this shows the club made a mistake and got caught by the participants at the show...............RatPack..................

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How the hell can an unfinished car be judged anyway ??

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Sounds like someone did not have their facts correct. Originally I thought this was firsthand information that was based on facts...oh well.

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i don't enter car shows anymore becouse of the politics involved it just makes me mad when an inferior car beats mine over some judges preference. However i will enter charity car shows as proceeds go to a good cause. Why should i put my $100k car in a show so that they can charge me for stanchons, power, carpet, etc., and then charge people $10 at the door that i don't share in, for a CHANCE to win a $20 trophy. It's a lesson in futility, i have better things to do with my time and money. Not saying i will never enter one again as you never know what the future holds, but for now i'll let other people enter. I know alot of great cars that are sitting in gargages that never get shown for this same reason.

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"This post will probably get deleted like my other one did earlier because it doesn't stroke everyone the same but I don't care"

We have not touched your post but feel free to do your posting elsewhere since you seem sure we are the Gestapo. This is kinda like the guy that is sure we are against him since he is too stupid to figure out how to login.

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If the $15 trophy is no big deal, then why did you even bring this whole thing up?

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Good point Marlin!

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RATPACK,

I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WERE TWO AWARDS CEREMONIES, BUT AT
THE ONE THAT I WAS AT, MY SON'S CAR CLEARLY GOT SECOND PLACE IN THE SUPERCAR CLASS. THERE WAS NO CONTRIVERSY AT ALL. THE SILVER COPO BODY WAS NEVER JUDGED.... IT NEVER LEFT THE SPOT THAT WAS PUT IN TO GO THROUGH THE JUDGING LANES, AND THE JUDGES NEVER CAME OVER TO LOOK AT IT FOR THE PURPOSE OF JUDGING IT. SO HOW COULD IT PLACE ???? I REGISTERED MY SON'S CAR, AND IT WAS ALWAYS IN THE SUPERCAR CLASS. GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT. I WAS THERE FROM FRIDAY THRU SUNDAY AFTERNOON, WITH THE CARS, AND WITNESSED WHAT WENT ON.

P.S. THE RESTORATION WAS MORE THAN $60K

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Frank, I had friends at that show and they all say when the awards were given out the COPO body was 2nd and then the crap hit the fan. They thought that was an injustice to the owner of the Yenko. I do not know if they fixed the problem at the show or after but your car did get a $15 award for a $60k restoration. From what I understand from a friend of mine that came up from TN was an entrant at that show, your car was in the Vintage Race Car category when he looked at it or something like that and got moved into the Supercar category sometime after judging ended. So to me the COPO body DID beat the Yenko like they announced at the awards presentation. This post will probably get deleted like my other one did earlier because it doesn't stroke everyone the same but I don't care. Nothing against your car as freinds of mine that were there said it was a nice restoration and they thought you got beat just like the Yellow L89 that didn't win. But my point is that just because a Yenko shows up at a show, no matter who's it is, it does not automatically qualify for an award. Supercar kid said it the best,

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Well... let me set this straight once and for all. I am the OWNER of the silver copo car that was in the middle of a resoration. I DID NOT enter the car to be judged, we simply brought the car to the show to show the progress of the restoration. I brought it there for the people to get a closer look at what really goes on in a full restoration. So please get your facts stright next time you make a statement about something that you dont even know about.. you WERNT EVEN THERE, your FRIENDS were.. so maybe you should ask them again.

I was there with Frank and his son and they CLEARLY won.. my car was NOT even registered for judging. So please next time.. go to the show and see for yourself before you come online and start rambling on about something you have no clue about.

Good Day,

Fran

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"This post will probably get deleted like my other one did earlier because it doesn't stroke everyone the same but I don't care"

We have not touched your post but feel free to do your posting elsewhere since you seem sure we are the Gestapo. This is kinda like the guy that is sure we are against him since he is too stupid to figure out how to login.

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Sam, After 4 different PM's from members here asking to pull your attachment I will do so and request that you dont use it any further. Please keep in mind the below the below that members agree to when they register here on the site.

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I believe you deleted your own post RatPack.

Feelin like a good 'ole PA AssWhoopin yet?
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You know Marlin I just had a look and Ratpack...you did delete a post at 930 this morning...what the hell is going on here ? Sounds like Vettefest all over again....don't accuse one of us of deleting a post . In hindsight I bet you wish we HAD deleted it since it makes you look like you don't know what the heck you are talking about...that water must be getting heavy !

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Fran, this post started off from some guy complaining about a real Yenko getting beat by a clone and I only elaborated about how politics can come into play at shows. My freinds don't lie, and neither do other people that I have discussed this with in length that have nothing to do with Frank, Joe, or B.W. Whether it was judged or not,there wer more people than just my freinds that heard the COPO body was the second place car and the crowd didn't like it. Like you said I was not there and it is heresay and I do not know what was said and I don't care. What it comes down to is this, to win an award you better be on your best game or you will get beat no matter what you own. Case proven here. The best car won which was the Olympic Gold car and maybe when you enter your car to be judged it will win.

Frank, get over it. You are beating a dead horse. We can sit all day and go over it a million times "he said: they said", I am not playing that game.

Charlie, my post was deleted this morning when I looked to see if there were any replies and then it showed back up sometime after 9:00 this morning. I never said you were the Gestapo as that would be considered by some as a terroist threat. There are posts of mine that are missing from the discussion of the Copper &amp; white striped Baldwin/Motion 1973 Camaro that was recently found. (the link to that is listed below) The deleted posts were comments I made about Joel Rosen no longer verifying cars when I called him about one that I had found. Tom even replied to my posts and said that Joel was still doing them but I know what I was told when Joel answered the phone. Tom's posts have even been edited/deleted also pertaining to mine.

I know that there are some members/moderators/owners of this site and other sites that I subscribe to that do not get along and that is fine with me. I try not to participate in the childish antics that go on between the sites because it does no good. However, when a post is deleted just because the truth is told and the forum/site moderator does not like to be told the truth then that is censorship to its fullest degree. To me they do have the right to remove a post only when it involves a discussion(s) that are turning slanderous or into something that is not relavent to the hobby. I support all of the sites the same whether they like each other or not. Ok I am off of my soapbox now so everyone can go back to doing whatever they like.........

That comment about not knowing how to log in is funny though https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif.....I will give that one to you.........RatPack......................

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WOW this makes a long friday go by fast it is like a soap opera.

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Yeah kill each other! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

(I feel like a Roman watching the gladiators! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif)

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Bob, the orginal post was deleted this moring when I looked at it at 9:00 Eastern Time. I received two phone calls telling me it was missing and they were correct. When I got back from the tire store it was there along with the bashing post of Frank. So I made a reply around 10:30 Easterm Time and then deleted it a few minutes later so I could re-word it so what does it matter? The original post is back up.................RatPack.............

The only difference in this post and a soap opera is we do not get any Emmy Nominations or awards for this https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif..............

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RatPack:

I'm sitting here looking at the Admin log for the bulletin board...this latest one (there are 4 others saved) goes back to 03/31/05 05:55 PM...what they do is track every edited thread, deleted thread, moved thread, and virtually every other move on the board. And I can tell you with absolute certainty, that your *conspiracy theory* about anyone here deleting your posts is as absurd as you arguing about the happenings at an event with someone who was there and someone who owns the car involved, all while you're info is 2nd or 3rd hand...at best.

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Let's just all get along. Now were playing nice. thanks guys. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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This post will probably get deleted like my other one did earlier because it doesn't stroke everyone the same but I don't care

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[/ QUOTE ] When I got back from the tire store it was there along with the bashing post of Frank. So I made a reply around 10:30 Easterm Time and then deleted it a few minutes later so I could re-word it so what does it matter? The original post is back up.................RatPack.............

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This issue of a moderator deleting your post seemed to be a big deal earlier today - now, it doesn't matter? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Hey Charley,No problem, just trying to bring down the tension on this thread..I have a pretty good friend who carries on his arm a tattoo he recieved in the Auschwitz deathcamp. as a survivor he is a daily reminder of an incredibly horrible time so as you can see Im pretty sensitive of anyone who may have a problem with an old photo or such...like I said, just trying to break the tension a little by playing off your words...I appologize to anyone who was offended...
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Luv a good Mystery-----Thanks for the ending Fran--

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I keep reading the title "FAKE YENKO BEATS REAL YENKO". Who cares,he still has a fake one and the other one is still real. It should actually be flattering that people spend huge bucks making a Yenko Clone. Lets just get along, trophies and such don't mean SHI_ in the end.

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when a post is deleted just because the truth is told and the forum/site moderator does not like to be told the truth then that is censorship to its fullest degree.

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I think it's clear now that your post was never deleted and even though you had information from your friends who don't lie information you received was wrong and probably shoul'nt have been posted...I'm sure the cars were all very very nice...what are the judges supposed to do call it a tie for everyone ? People need to quit whining over judges decisions and trying to blame people for not scoring higher than another car. It's just a car show.What do these people think there are SYC spies running around trying to make sure all the 4 dollar trophies go to members ? The only cars in question I have seen are the ones from Brians shop when they were at Vettefest...they are beautiful...never saw any of the others in person but I would bet they are all knockouts...so why the sour grapes ? What is it bragging rights or something ? Come to the SCR..no judging..we won't pick your pocket and hell we will even let you attend other car shows without being ridiculed and thrown out of the club !!! How refreshing is that !

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Ratpack, you are correct, one of your posts is missing in the thread about Motion cars, and here is what our log shows happened to it. In order the log shows- when deleted, IP address (I removed that), what action was taken, who made the post, who deleted it, and which thread it was in.

<font color="red"> 07/05/05 10:31 PM (IP address) DELETEPOST Rat_Pack 71 Unknown: U Rat_Pack;Re: Here are some neat cars!! </font>

For the record, here is the last one you deleted. <font color="red"> 07/15/05 09:30 AM (IP address) DELETEPOST Rat_Pack 71 Unknown: U Rat_Pack;Re: Fake Yenko Beats Real Yenko in show </font>

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif put a fork in this one Rick...

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Show's over!

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Hope its OK that I'm bring my lousy COPO clone to the OUTDOOR show (SCR8) cause I've already bought air tix....Car will be driven down from central Illinois......
I'll park in furthest back corner, so not to offend anyone with my incorrect misdated parts.........

Chuck

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Huh? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

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Wow.

I missed all the fun

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please do

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

Hey man, was that really called for???????

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How about everyone just settle all this on the track at SCR8 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Enough of the stupid bickering.

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How about everyone just settle all this on the track at SCR8

Enough of the stupid bickering.

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What happens when the fake yenko whops the real one??

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How about everyone just settle all this on the track at SCR8
What happens when the fake yenko whops the real one??

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Big deal, after the race it will still be a REAL Yenko..

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I beg your pardon?

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I beg your pardon?

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Gemleeus,
Are you telling Chuck to "please do" bring his car to the outdoor show or "please do" park in the farthest corner to avoid offending anybody?

-Sam