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Not to mention the cost of the restoration done on most of these cars. I'll bet many would be lucky to break even. It would scare a lot of people if they knew the actual costs involved in a top notch resto. The cars that are big dollar today were probably out of reach of most people in '69 as well when you looked at price AND insurance. When I bought our COPO Chevelle I didn't have to climb over a line of people to get to the front of the line. Same with the COPO Camaro that Nurse Chev-Olds had. It sat for quite a while. I was just fortunate to have a decent paying job and the bank was friendly. Last year we finished a '72 Lemans Sport 400 4 speed car. It has all the good muscle car options and gets more attention than our L78 Chevelle. Take the blinders off folks. There are lots of very nice alternatives out there, and the prices can be very attractive. As in the late '80s, it is a good time for investors to be in the Muscle Car business and they are. On the brighter side, it puts a lot of money back into circulation. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/laugh.gif

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Wrong, BJ is making people play by their rules.

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Only if the seller decides to play

If you don't like the rules then don't play the game. If you think Jackson is a crook then don't give him your money. But if you get "greedy" and want to take a chance at getting more money for your car at auction then go ahead and pay to play the auction game. If you pay to play at B-J then you must play by their rules.

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Hey Kieth
If you are getting more looks from your 72 Lemans
maybe you will sell the copo chevelle for a reasonable price EH!
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I recently fully restored my L78 70 chevelle to the build sheet. I have had this car for almost 24 years and this project became an obsession to restore. I spent huge huge dollars and 7 months of full time work spent on the car
to totaly restore it. Yes Part of the reason that it scost so much is that I threw away many of the origional parts from the car not realizing
at the time how valuable they would become. Many car buyers at he BJ auction neither have the time or the
skill to take a car and rebuild it so they buy it all done
by one of us. Just look at the prices of last year to this year.If you had money to invest in an HP car last year
and then sold at BJ you would have made a great return
on your money. NOt like your stocks Too few rare clasics cars for many new found clasic lovers. How do you stop it! build more clasic
origionals again from the car companies. Or ??????.
Lets start with a copo 1970 Nova black on black 4 speed
with no council, got to be a 427 or a L78 for $ 3600.00 Canadian EH!
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I don't know about you guys, but I thought alot of cars were sold way under the cost to restore, did you?

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What's with all this Craig Jackson bashing? No doubt Scottsdale is THE place to sell a car. No other event will net a seller that much money for a car. If after commissions, you have more in your pocket than if you had advertised in Hemmings, who cares what Craig puts in his pocket?

These guys who are in the business of buying and selling classic cars will always attract the huge money. Let's look at this on a smaller scale - I could have my RS/Z advertised for 50k and get 20 tire kickers and 5 guys who want to try and beat me down to 45k. Peter Klutt (Legendary Motor Car) comes along and buys it off me for 50k, puts it in his showroom with a 100k price tag and sells it in a month.

Wealthy people who are not nearly as knowledgeable as us look for someone they can trust. Like it or not, Craig Jackson is one of them.

Hylton

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What's with the Peter Klutt bashing? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

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Where is that damn Graemlin holding the Mr70 or Rick sucks sign? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif

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Hey! Clarify the "Rick sucks" sign before we get carried away here!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif
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I kind of like the chubby guy with no vowels in his name...Hnchw or something like that....gazunteit

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I kind of like the chubby guy with no vowels in his name...Hnchw or something like that....gazunteit

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....you gotta ask yourself, do you need a website like this? Naaaaaah

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This is what comes up when I type "Rick sucks".

http://www.usask.ca/psychology/foren...2004Photo2.jpg

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Hylton...you NEED thos place....Hnchw very much ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

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Consider this; and im sure many of you could agree, when you are in the market for a collector car of any kind the hunt for said car has alot of expenses attached. First of all you have endless hours of serching for the right car, and most of the time it's no where near you so you have to make travel arangements that may include flights, accomadations, rental cars, food, etc. Than when you see it you may find it's not what you wanted or not the right price and move on. You may have to do this several times before you find the right one. Once you do than it's the transportation, taxes, insurance, etc. that comes out of your pocket by the time you get it home. Than there is the enevitable WRONG things done to the car that you have to modify to your personal preferrences. So by the time you find that 100K car you might be into the car for more like $112k. So is that what it's worth now??, or just to you?
OR
You could go down to the auction where the sellers bring the cars to you. There you have a wide selections of many cars to choose from with some of the due dilligents work already done for you. The owners are there for you to talk to and compare cars, the transport, insurance, and various other car related companys are all right there, hotels, food, refreashments, etc are all right there, and if the right car is not there you only have to wait a few months for the next auction to come up. So you have to pay some added expenses for someone to set that up for you and he does this in a fun and entertaining package that makes an EVENT out of it for you and all your friends to boot, in the long run you would have spent that money anyways.
So whats the big deal???, if you don't see the big picture than don't go.

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You gotta ask yourself........do you need this thread to keep going? Naaaaah.

But do you want this thread to keep going? Naaaaah!

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You gotta ask yourself........do you need this thread to keep going? Naaaaah.

But do you want this thread to keep going? Naaaaah!

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