Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

Dumb and Dumber ? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

If the car were YS 8042 and it fell in line with the other YS numbered cars of YS 8043 which is Vin# 482858 then YS 8042 "could" have been too late a production to be Grotto blue. That color was dropped in Early (calender year) 68 in favor of Lemans Blue. Lemans blue and Corvette Bronze were introduced at the same time and YS# 8037 was Corvette Bronze. (Just something to think about)

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

We can speculate all we want or Omar could just chime in and give out the vin or fill us in instead of staying mad in the background.

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

True Charlie... Oh so true.

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I would think in 1968 cars were converted just like 1981. Cars were pulled from stock and converted without real regard to build date. If a customer wanted a certain color it would be pulled and converted from the pool af available cars. There are 67 Camaros converted in early 68. Cars would not be converted as they arrived...BKH

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All the BS with this car aside....a 540 in a Camaro https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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Is there really that much logic behind the YS #s? For example, look a this list:
YS8023 412891
YS8024 377575
YS8025 240776
That is quite a span of VINS for three cars with consecutive YS #s. Are there any explanations for how the cars were numbered. Was it like suggested in an earlier post, the cars were converted based on customer demand for color, etc.? If this was the case, it must have been a 67/68 only practice? In 69 the cars were no longer "converted", right? They came as COPOs at that point. And I guess that is why were there cars "left over" that sold after the 69 model year?

I know, I am a little slow but catching on? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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I have been hearing that the trim tag on these cars are different. So what is so diff on them?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

Racefan, As was noted earlier, these cars were ordered in batches but not converted until sold. The '67 & '68 Yenko cars had a much larger variety of dealer installed items available, so it made sense to wait until the car was spoken for before converting it. The '69's are COPO's, and obviously have the 427 factory installed, however, those that are sold out of Yenko are usually different in some way. When we find a unique Yenko car, odds are that it was sold new at Yenko - they didn't seem to worry about the warranty issue as much.

So, there shouldn't be any consistent logic to the YS# compared to the VIN, Body or Build #'s.

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

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In 69 the cars were no longer "converted", right? They came as COPOs at that point. And I guess that is why were there cars "left over" that sold after the 69 model year?

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This wasn't exclusive to '69...the majority of the '68 Yenko Camaros started as COPO cars (suspension, speedo, carb), but not all of those cars got converted to 427 power. Brian Henderson (BKH) was probably the first to put that puzzle together... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

Did the 68 COPO cars come with 15" wheels like the 69's? Does anyone know when during the 68 model year the COPO options started being used by Yenko?

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Good clarification on the COPO status of these cars. I didn't clarify my thoughts well enough, I was only referring to engine. Pretty cool stuff! So, is there really any legitimate hope of finding YS 8042? That car could be any VIN and any build date, couldn't it? A generic question... does anyone have hard suspicions about this car or is a truly a total mystery? For example, does anyone have knkowledge about this car but it is not verified, thus not written down? In other words, is there a possibility that the car we are talking about COULD YS 8042? Any thoughts on where YS 8042 might be or colors/options? I realize that there isn't anything documented about 8042, but is there speculation/folklore about it? Even if the informatioin exists but no one wants to give it out openly...how about just an acknowlegement that SOME info does exist?

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

There was a 68 copo, non converted yenko camaro at vettefest this last november. I heard they would not judge the car because they are mis-informed about these cars existence. Roger

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

You heard wrong...it was judged in the Spinner Concourse...

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...and I may as well add the rest of the story too....the car scored a Silver Spinner on it's own merit...but apparently the guy who restored it,the owner and the rest of the 3 or 4 groupies decided that there had to be a conspiracy by the SYC to sway the judge and score the car low... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif...I'm sure a judge values his integrity more than that.. this garbage went on for weeks since they didn't have much else to talk about.Shame of it is the car was very nice...probably not exactly what the judges were looking for...I heard some of the issues from people who attended but no sense in bringing any of it up here...seems like personal attacks are the flavor of the week with these clowns..but we can handle it...I know I can for sure. It's always easier to blame others and come up with mysterious excuses when you don't do well...that why it's much better around here without the few guys that only wanted to start [censored] here...this site is where the real car guys are...not parts whores,not people who just want to make money off you or flip a car or make up some far fetched stories about the history of their cars to try and increase their value...but real people who love their cars no matter what they own.I'm glad I'm here.

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Well said Belair. The $hit talk DOES need to stop. Here is my principle regarding the internet. Have the balls to say what you type about someone to there face. You WILL eventually end up running into them face to face someday...........

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Difference is Frank...I'm still not ignorant enough to use names....this crap should stay private but sometimes you gotta take a stand in public....period. End of story...personal attacks just don't cut it and deserve a response.

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

Belair and Frank need a hug ?

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I love you man... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

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Some day it would be really great for everyone to "bury the hatchet". I recently did just that with a good friend and I feel a whole lot better about it and myself. This hobby is too great and too big for there to be so much controversy over these cars. We are all hobbyists and enthusiasts and are all here for the same reason. Both sides (as well as others) throw punches but somewhere along the line people need to take credit for their mistakes, don't look for blame, shake hands and go on and continue the hobby. These cars are all here for our benefit and for the benefit of our kids to learn about the history and heritage of these cars. If we expect our kids to take a side, we have failed. I have accepted and taken the blame for my mistakes and still wake up feeling great every morning. Its time the others do the same and enjoy the hobby. Both of these sites have a ton to offer and the cumulative information between the two is staggering. Someone has to make the first move......... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif
Rick

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

I agree with Frank Rick, and Belair. Now, back to the topic. Is there any folklore/speculation on YS 8042? I would guess that some sort of story (either confirmed or unconfirmed) has crossed paths with people on this site? Is there a car ou there that the owner claims it is 8042 but cannot be verified, rumors of a fiery crash, anything? I am intrigued now!

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Rick...I too have done that many times in life...but there is no incentive anymore. I have talked to a couple guys who I have respect for...and had some huge laughs off line ...hell we shoot jabs and laugh offline a lot !!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif But next time you turn around it's the same old crap. I think the Pied-Piper over there would be pissed if we became openly friendly again !! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

Does anyone know when the COPO option first became available in 68? Because that would be the only way to get the 140 speedo I assume. Now if this particular car is a color that was discontinued before the end of production and the COPO option didn't show up until the later stages of 68 then is there really an overlap where you could get a Grott Blue car with the COPO option? It just seems odd that Don would have ordered an RS/SS houndstooth COPO car without someone specifically requesting it.

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

That seems logical on how to get the 140 speedo. Except you forgot one important way......out of someone elses'car. In looking through catatlogues it seems as though the repop industry isn't making these, true or false?

Problem is, I don't think anyone knows for sure that a car like that was not specifically ordered? I am not saying that this car IS a missing Yenko....I am just trying to figure out how anyone knows it absolutely cannot be. But, honestly I guess the burden is not in disproving a car it is in proving it. So, maybe I just answered all of my own questions?

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

I had a Grotto Blue 68 Yenko, YS8013 so that answers your Grotto 140 speedo question.

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

Howie the 68 Yenko's had the Magic Mirror trim tag. not the standard one.

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I had a Grotto Blue 68 Yenko, YS8013 so that answers your Grotto 140 speedo question.

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Charley, I assume your car had the COPO package. Thanks, that helps eliminate that angle.

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Thanks James, I thought I was being left out. Two questions and NO answers. I need a HUG. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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I was waiting to hear that answer too !!! Also..didn't Firebirds come with the 140 speedo ? Are they the same ?

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

birds had a 160 speedo, though I cant understand why https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

One thing I will say is the 140 speedo in the car LOOKS legit... I have seen repros before that were made from 120 speedometers and the lines between the numbers were incorrect... this one looks the way a real 140 looks, but thats not to say there hasn't been more than one style of repro either... its a weird deal, If the car is indeed real I just can't figure out why you'd hide info that would prove it if you wanted to sell it for top buck. Looks like a cool car, and I wish the big mystery would be solved.

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It appears that the trim tag would prove if it was a COPO car with the 140 speedo so it shouldn't really be a mystery now. Has anyone seen the trim tag on this car? If it is a realy Yenko, it's just a matter of which one.

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

On December 15th of 67, GM issued a zone letter indicating four colors were being dropped from production and four new colors were being added effective January 2nd 1968. The blue that was discontinued was "Fathom Blue" as they had just introduced "Lemans Blue" into the mix. They did not discontinue Grotto Blue and it was still in production until the end of the production year if I stand correct?. Here is a copy of the letter Jeff C. posted showing the color changes in early 68.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...veJan21968.jpg

This should clear up the Blue issue in the Grotto.

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

The auction ended last week without the reserve being met.
Why not wait until comes up for sale again to keep this thread going?
Also, wasn't the Corvette 160 mph speedo interchangable with the '68 F-Body?

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.... We are all hobbyists and enthusiasts and are all here for the same reason. Rick

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It's nice to think that, but, it's not true. Those that are true hobbyists and enthusiasts are here, the others - well, they have found a home. Notice how long it's been since this site had a meltdown?

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.... We are all hobbyists and enthusiasts and are all here for the same reason. Rick

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It's nice to think that, but, it's not true. Those that are true hobbyists and enthusiasts are here, the others - well, they have found a home. Notice how long it's been since this site had a meltdown?

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Not trying to stir the pot, but Marlin that is not an accurate statement. How many people here have flipped a car for a profit? A lot. People on all the musclecar sites have flipped cars for profit. I'm not saying everyone is doing it, but there's a lot of people buying low and selling high and acting like they're in it for the hobby.

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

Point taken, moving on.

To my knowledge, nobody has a pic of Omar's trim tag.

Re: 68 BB Camaro with 140 Speedo, Yenko Hood on Ebay
 

Regarding this 68 Camaro, would this be the only known Yenko with houndstooth interior if it is a real Yenko? If this is a real Yenko, that's a pretty sweet combo with that interior and RS/SS. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif