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OH HECK YEAH Sweet mother Mary I want RAV with THOSE Glasco manifolds!!!!
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im pretty sure they were 1st gen bird manifolds for std deck blocks.Tom
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Tom
The manifolds with the heat shields, ok on for the 303 but why the heat shields? Do you suspect they had serious plans of 303 production engine? Wouldn't have been much point in developing heat risers for racing? Here is what Gary sent: [ QUOTE ] Here are a few pics of my unrestored "useless" 69 RA5 TA. Sorry the manifold pics don’t turn out very good, but not much room to get the angle on the camera. It might look better if I jacked the car up and took them from underneath it. [/ QUOTE ] http://www.empgmc.com/race/garysravat.jpg Full Size http://www.empgmc.com/race/garysravdt.jpg Full Size http://www.empgmc.com/race/garysravbt.jpg Full Size http://www.empgmc.com/race/garsravct.jpg Full Size |
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You guys are right,no way hot rod manifolds fit gto.I dont know which ones Mullikan had on that Judge,i remember he said he moved the motor over to one side half an inch,and he might have notched the frame .
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John
Mullikan's is the GTO that Gene Ingle first owned from our dealership, but is it the one Purely PMD restored with the shift lighted hood tach? I think I've figured this out before but forgotten. This Judge that Purely PMD did aslo had the correct A body manifolds, as Pete McCarthy used it for picture illustration in his book. Sincerely, Steve |
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the 303 engines were setup with a smog pump,they were REALLY trying to get the 25 engines by SCCA.Tom
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Tom I can see that, sounds logical.
I just got off the phone with Ramair Restoration, they scan the donor manifold digitally now so there is no harm to the original what so ever. He said normal tooling starting type price is $12,000 but that is for several thousand casting type molds. Since RAV would be only a few dozen at best, the mold material may be less expensive. Again this is just rough guesstimate on Paul's part, but he will do it. He also said he has a set of the 303 manifolds and acted surprised when I told him what they where. HAHA Everyone should read Yenko forum, then they would be up on this stuff. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif |
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Speaking of the Ram Air Restorations manifolds, has anyone ever seen (or tried) the 3" round port RAIV versions for the 67-69 Firebird? If so, do they actually fit?
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Steve, I swear, you could be the star of CSI. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif
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Most are from other people, so I can't take credit. I just like solving puzzles.
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Ok, you can be the "Columbo" of this site. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
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Ok but I don't smoke cubans.
I suppose to normal people like myself, "a few feet away" would be like taking something from one side of the double wide to the other. But when you work at a parts plant that is over a mile long, maybe 300 yards is "a few feet away". http://www.empgmc.com/race/01b.jpg |
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Hey Muldur
Can you put up the Blueprint for Area 51? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif |
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That is pretty cool stuff.....
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Pic of the RAV block stampings in the mag Andy sent me, it would be a 69 block.
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Since your talking about RAV stuff, did anyone hear buy that RAV piston that had "RAV" and describing text silk screened on the top of it on ebay about Oh... 4-5 years ago? I don't have the picture anymore. It looked to be a desk-top item, but not sure if someone made it up or not. I was wondering if there was a story behind it.
https://www.yenko.net/attachments/109904-RAVRodBlank.jpg Paul |
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I've posted this once but want to bring it back now, has new meaning with the drawings. This is the Pontiac MI plant as visited by our former employee, Roy Phillips.
http://www.empgmc.com/race/rpat.jpg Full Size Note: “our” is in no way claim on my part to ownership of the dealership. I just work here and don’t even have a title. |
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This is the Black Judge from earlier in the thread as it is today running in Kansas City.
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That's a cool overhead you can see it was about 2 blocks away from the assembly line.
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The place must have been mind blowing to see, imagine car bodies on the third floor taking up over 2 football fields. WOW. To get around in all the buildings must have been difficult; I can see why a straight 2 block shot out in the open may seem like right out the door. It looks like they may have staged the transport trucks right outside #49 and there was a 2 block type road straight to the engineering building. That’s just a guess. These were samples from a fax; I will have hard copies and a more complete layout in the mail within the next days which will be cool. And there may be some more detailed accounting of how it ran.
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Tom you might appreciate this, the home made intake for the Black car.
http://www.empgmc.com/race/ravintake1t.jpg Full Size http://www.empgmc.com/race/ravintake4t.jpg Full Size |
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RAV Exhaust Manifold Tally Sheet, who has a set.
303 F type: 1. Tom 2. Gary 3. Lance 4. Ramair Restorations 400 F long branch: 1. For sure but don't know who has them (photographed in 69 Hot Rod and Pete's book) A body: 1. Glasgo's old set 2. Mulikin 3. "maybe" Purely PMD car if it's not Mulikin's Probably more out there, wouldn't be surprised that George Delorean would have some and several other people in the Michigan area. |
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now if you want to dig,find out who has RA V factory 2-4 intakes!And correct carbs!ANY model.Tom
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You tell me what pieces Kevin Yash and Pete McCarthy (or who has the stuff he photographed) have and how many to look for and I'll see what I can come up with.
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well I will help with a couple,Nunzi and Wade at BOP each have a tunnel ram,Randy Williams estate has a flat one,I have a 303 X ram,Stve Van Dyne sold another.There is 4.I dont actually KNOW where there is another tall dist for the X ram and the intake is not useable without it.Did you get your HPP yet?Tom
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I would be willing to bet that most of these un accounted for peices are in the Michigan area, last year when I was calling people ALL kinds of confusions were coming out about who took what out the back door. If I took notes, I don't remember what I did with them. I think Yash had the line on some of it. Tracking the peices down wasn't my mission, so I didn't take as much care with the information as I should have.
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Wow, this has really turned into a Pontiac party! Break out the cast rods!
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif Tom, do you know about the 69 RAV Trans Am that was out in California a couple years ago, and was recently sold to Joe from the Parts Place back here in Illinois? Here's the original 69 GTO RAIV prototype air cleaner. A little overkill, huh? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif |
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Bruce Logan had a real 69 T/A with a RA V engine,he also had a clone convert.He sold them a year or so ago.Never saw them,when I started talking to him the motor was not in the car.He lived about 10 miles from me.Tom
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Tell me what (Barry Martin/aka Sonic Motors) still has?
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Mike
Now your breaking out the good stuff... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif Tell more about the mule 69 if you get a chance, please. |
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Bob Mullikan and the Purely PMD RA5 Judges were 2 different cars.The pmd car had GTO manifolds,Bobs had manifolds,but i dont remember which ones.Bob had the balls to put his on the track,the pmd car had pics taken next to the dragstrip,but never on it!
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I'm not sure what this was for or even where I got them, hope I haven't posted yet. Some one may know what they were for?
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BTW,Bob was from Wisconson
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Tom
I didn't get my HPP yet, but some one I know did. I understand congratulations are in order. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif I did get my Feb/Jan 2005 Pontiac Enthusiast and about fell out of my seat when I read Jim Wangers article. Steve |
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I know the T/A is on the cover and there is spread on the V motor,still have not got mine.Tom
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