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Darren,
Here is a link to the Blue Turquoise Z/28 we sold. The car was amazingly (is that a word?) original. Only thing missing was the smog equipment but the pump bracket was still on the car.

http://www.camaros.com/bluez.html

Rick H.

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Very cool Rick! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT

Heres an interesting car, the bid has been at 36k for two days, the guy is hoping to get around 125k, just don't see it happening, but at least he left a #

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Oh, and the Z-28 is finished at $148.099 it's been taken off as it is no longer for sale.

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WOW ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif

That Coronet R/T is a rare bird ! I don't think that I have ever seen a '69 B-body with a luggage rack ?? Notice how it is in front of the butt-stripe ? My 70 Charger SE 500 has a luggage rack, and that is rare, but a '69 Coronet .... WOW. And it is a correct B-body luggage rack too ! As they are unique, and different from the E-bodies, which are more popular. Neat car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Hmm so are we going to see this one at action this winter? "Now's your chance to own the car that was seen on eBay! But this time there is no reserve!" Seems like an attention getter action to me. Now the seller needs to have it featured in a few magazines this summer or fall.

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Just to add a little bit to the stripes thing here is a picture of a Z/28 we just sold and it had original paint. The car had been off the road since 1975 and was found in a barn in PA. We believe the stripes are original to the car.

[/ QUOTE ] Jeff, your Z looked to be an outstanding original car, but I don't think the tailpan stripes look original to it. It's hard to tell in the pics, but it looks like the small surrounding stripes are applied with parts store pinstriping tape. Notice the thick/thin surrounding pin stripes edging the wide stripes on the tail pan. I think the hood and decklid stripes are most likely unmolested, but it looks like someone simply extended them onto the deck edge/tailpan. I'd bet any money those thin stipes around the outside were tape, but again JMO. Great car in a great color. I'm surprised AT wasn't more popular back in '69, it looks great trimmed in black.

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Who's Jeff? Anyways, I'll take that bet. That is not tape. When I got about 4 inches away from the car I could tell it was paint and not tape. Those stripes are painted on, including the small stripes and are very old. Now granted, they could have been added very early in the life of the car but who knows. When we sold the car we never claimed the stripes to be original. When comparing both cars, the stripes are painted pretty close to identical including the deck lid strip underneath the spoiler. I find it interesting that both cars are X33D80 as well.

But here's the kicker. We must be doing something wrong because he got $150,000 for a car that has obvious correctness issues (nice battery cable clamps) and we sell an original unrestored Z/28 for $25,000. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

Times, they are a changing.

Rick H.

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If you look close at the baby blue car the stripes are not the same as the car you sold Rick. On the baby blue car the stripes go all the way to the glass on the rear deck...

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Dennis- Check it again. That is correct for a vinyl top car.

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OOPS! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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What he said. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif I had to look twice myself.

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Sorry Rick, didn't mean to mixing up names up again. I looked at the pics again and I can see what you're saying. The close up of the trunk opening shows only a single 1/4" outlining stripe, not the "double" stripe as I had believed I saw in the straight-on tail pic. Even being painted on as nicely as they were, a person has to assume they were added unless there is some sort of documentation or owner history to back it up. They do warrant a closer look on a car that original for sure. It's an interesting car stripes or no stripes, and a deal at 25 grand IMO. Heck, I'd rather have a 55 Azure car anyday over some *special -- Carolina Blue. Again, just my opinion. Welcome to the site.

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No problem on the name mixup. I've been called worse.
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The car was a steal and if I had the extra money I might have have bought it myself. I have a soft spot for the 67 so to me it was just another car.
The new owner got a very nice original car. Something you just don't see everyday. It would be cool to find out the stripes were original.

Glad to be aboard and hope I can add to the site.

Rick H. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Rick -- do you know how the new owner is going to restore the Z? Is he going to paint it with or without the extended striping?

-Dan

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Not sure yet what his plans are. I do know that he plans on doing a full resto on the car and he might start next spring. He has been in contact with us about some NOS GM sheetmetal.
I would like to see it restored the way it is now. Would be interesting.

Rick H.

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But here's the kicker. We must be doing something wrong because he got $150,000 ....

Rick H.

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Doubt it. He didn't get squat for the car. It was a shill auction.

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Benny are you just assuming or do you have information about the auction? Looking at the bidding, the buyers seemed to be reputable and numerous.

Please don't put out a strong acusation with out merit.

Thank you https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

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Thanks for posting what I was thinking. Show us the proof! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

Rick H.

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That R/T is a knockout---
That Carolina Blue Camaro keeps the variety going--Legendary Motors did a segment on a '69 SS 396 Chevelle in this color /black int--------------- looked https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif-----IMHO

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Guys,

Let's use some common sense here. Why would someone who had a rediculous bid of $148,000 for a 1 of 1 Z/28 end an auction 2 days early? Don't forget, the auction ended early with only $1,500 away from the reserve. You might say that someone offered the guy 10k more to end the auction early but having said that, if you were the seller, wouldn't you take the auction to the very end to see what you could get. Anyone here see the car or knows the buyer?

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I didn't think common sense applied to E-Bay !!!

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Benny,

I have to agree with you. It sure doesn't seem right to end an auction of this type early but we do not know the details. Perhaps someone made an offer to the seller that he thought was a good deal and acted on it or on the extreme other hand maybe the auction was bogus. Yes this auction could have been done to advertise the car... set a high reserve and have associates bid on it. We don't know without further details.

I myself was going to write a post about the possibility of the buyer having friends post fictitious bids to pump the price of this car but looking at who the bidders are there sure seem to be credible buyers in the crowd (as well as some brand new E-bay accounts). But if there was even just one real buyer in the crowd then the price is a realistic one. Someone being willing to pay that price.

All of it is supposition in this case because it all occurred below the reserve. An auction like this leaves more questions than answers. If the action had occurred above the reserve and the car sold then there would be no questions. It would have been bid for at a price that the car would have changed hands at. I could put a toothpick for sale on Ebay with a $30,000 reserve and have friends bid it up to $29,999.... would it then be worth the $29,999 just due to the fact it got to that level on an Ebay auction? You tell me.

I do not know this car, seller or anything else about this auction. It may well be 100% honest and someone did bid it up to $148,000. I would welcome someone who has any facts to post them. The only point I am trying to make is 'caveat emptor'. Know what you are buying and what it should be worth. If you are buying something of this high dollar amount on an online auction contact the seller see the vehicle and do the homework.

Reality is merely our percieved view of an occurance. This perception can be altered thru illusion. Did we see a $148,000 Z/28.. hummmm... did we??

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I didn't think common sense applied to E-Bay !!!

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Amen brother!

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I just heard from a guy who just heard from another guy that the car did sell in that price range. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/Charley.gif

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Reality is merely our percieved view of an occurance. This perception can be altered thru illusion. Did we see a $148,000 Z/28.. hummmm... did we??

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Good point. It's just like the yellow Xram car at B-J, everyone with an X77 Xram car thinks its worth 116k. Either they don't know or tell you that that sale fell through. Now people see this Carolina Blue car at 148k and just like that, their car is worth 148k. This sort of thing only help the money hungry and not the pure hobbyists.

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The valuation levels of the real cars are becoming pretty scary.About two years ago Chris B at TRM was selling an LA 69 RSZ cross ram/JL8,Cortez/black vinyl top,just about every option availible was ordered,and had docs..I waited a day too long and he sold it to a collector in the N.E. for the asking price of 75k.My freind and I figured out it had to have been the same car another teenage friend bought from the original owners mother in 1978,it had been sitting in a sub garage on Wilcox ave in Hollywood with four flats and an inch of dust.He persuaded her to let it go-for $700.00.There are no more free lunches https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

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LA 69 RSZ cross ram/JL8,Cortez/black vinyl top,just about every option availible was ordered,and had docs..

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Wasn't this car just featured in a magazine? I can't remember which one.

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Why would someone ...end an auction 2 days early...only $1,500 away from the reserve.... wouldn't you take the auction to the very end to see what you could get.

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Ever hear of the old proverb "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush"? Hey, I'm as amazed as anyone here, but I just don't find the scenario all that implausible https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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I'm the quiet redneck that says nothing but- the car is now back on e-bay listed by the infamous scam artists overseas. How guliable can people be to fall for these scams??

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I have ended quite a few auctions before they were finished,,, the old "bird in the hand" I have known several folks that have let em run,, just to end up with sum 16 year old on the other end with no intention or means to buy a mo-ped let a lone a 20-50K car,,, JMHO

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I sent them an e-mail--waiting for a reponse

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For those wondering what a scam auction looks like...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...;category=6161

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I called the phone number listed in the first auction and left him a message. Too bad there in no way to catch these scammers and put an end these things.
James

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Looks like the scam auction is history https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Just got a response to my e-mail, Thought it was pretty amusing--Crooked, but amusing--Here it is as worded and spelled-----
Hello and thank you for contacting me
I will tell you a few words about the car
First of all the car is fully restored and looks just like in the pictures.
It is in imaculate condition and has no schrach on and hasn't bee involved in any accident.
The motor runs very well. This is a classic car that has a lot of the original parts and thr tires are almost new.
The title is clear, it is not a salvage one.
The car belongs to my brother. He died two weeka ago in a bike accident.
The car is now in Paris, France as my brother lived there. I am now here as i took care of the funerals.
Because i can't carry all his things back home i am selling them.
I am willing to sell it and shipp it to any of the UE countries or to US. I will not ship to any African, Asian or Eastern European countries.
I know that the price is low but i have no use for the car and I want to gat back home as soon as i sell it.
I want to sell the car asap so I am willing to pay the shipping fees nomatter of the location.
I require a deposit of 3000USD, with the balance when the car arrive at your shipping door.
The total price i hope to sell this car is 9,000USD
I will ship using KLM 3-5 days, by plane to the nearest airport. From ther a truck will bring the car at your door.
The moneys a reservation for the car.
First one who makes the deposit willbe the buyer. I need the deposit to be sure you want the car and in order to proceed with shipping and all the additional export taxes.
I wait your further questions and will provide any infos you need.
Thank you
Regards!

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That is pretty much the same generic email that they send out on all these scams. "The Car" could be a $150,000 Z28 or a $200 Gremlin. Email them back and ask some basic questions about the car that anyone that knows anything about cars would know, like what the firing order is https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/laugh.gif.
James

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Why is it in all these scam e-mails, the guy can't spell, dosent he have spell check?. I wonder if its the same guy all the time?, becouse the story is always somewhat the same. Not only that but if anybody with half a brain would notice that he has a pile of these scams going at one time. If it's the same guy, why can't e-bay put a stop to this?.I notice that they take these scams off pretty quick