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Well as far as I'm concerned you are entitled to your opinion and I'm entitiled to mine..The original post was never meant to be "outing" the owner and as far as I can see his name is never mentioned..Ill finish my involvement in this thread by saying this..Let's take a look at the car...It shouldn't be that hard and if I'm wrong I'll certainly publiclly apologize..It is somewhat funny that most of the negative comments regarding this thread and me "outing" a car come from the same geographic region...isn't that where some of the people that were exposed to this car are from???

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Greg,Kim...I have no idea what car this VIN belongs to...nor do I really care...,my intent was simply this...if there are going to be posts allowed that bring info like this up it should be done even handed...and I was referring to the post by Zedder that was deleted...I never met or talked to Zedder but no one ever had the chance to either jag the guy off for posting bogus info or discuss what merit the post had. And it gave the appearance that because the car in question was owned my a great guy who is on the board it was deleted so as not to embarass anyone...even though the info may not have discredited the car at all...it just looked crappy that it happened and more care should be taken and more thought should be taken ...total bullshit presented to this audience ,when discovered,should be deleted and explained why it was done...but that should be a last possible resort...I am sure in hindsight if it was allowed to go forward it would have straightened itself out for all concerned. The way it was done created a lot of ill will and suspicion...and this place should have stayed above that...JMO...

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Belair and Jeff..I agree 100%...I think it is not only healthy to discuss these cars openly, but to encourage others to do their homework..As far as "Zedder's" post I wish the moderators would re-instate it. I certainly am not in the clique here, and while I thought the info on the Yellow Yenko needed posting, I'm sure "Zedder's' post was just as relevant. Sorry if it looks like any favoritism..If anyone knows "Zedder" please have him call me at work at 800-669-5834 RE: a LS6 Thanks

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Greg The problem I have you have talked about a car you have NEVER seen Period. The car was tubbed SO WHAT alot of cars that have been restored were. BFD I personally would rather restore a tubbed than a rusted to the Door Handle. Also you did mention a name that's BS https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

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"Maybe some guys need to be called out", and, "the truth will always come out". Those are YOUR words Greg, and, the way you presented the rumors on this car would sure lead a reasonable person to view it as an "outing". As far as your conspiracy theory about the region of objections to your posts, I have no idea what car or current owner you are posting about. I don't really care who owns it. It's the rumors & innuendo that I find objectionable.

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Kim, Are you saying some of the guys here that rip every ebay car have seen them first in person???? Why is this particular yenko taboo??? Greg seems to have alot more info on this car than most have when making accusations on ebay cars....

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I mentioned that a guy named Mick bought the car from Mike..I mentioned that he wasn't concerned about the body..those are facts as I know them..One of the most revered people on here is who mentioned the car in a PM in the first place as having been owned by Mick and having been restored by him..the name this person gave later turned out to be the current owner..You are correct I haven't personallly seen the car..However quite a few others (that are extremely qualified)have and their opinions are the car is a rebody at least from the firewall back..Let's cut the BS here...The easiest way to prove me wrong is to get the car..get the photos of the resto (most shops take them to document work), get me the bills showing the purchase of the parts needed to take it back stock..I think again some on here want to "protect" their little cliques...Have you seen the car and can tell me that it is the original body shell, the original roof, etc.??

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Kim,

Are you saying I have never seen the car??? I suggest you look at the friggin license plate in the picture...I raced against the car, cruised with it, looked at how extensive the work was done..how many 8 sec cars do you see made into stock appearing cars..Gheee I guess that is one reason Bill P. made #1 look stock..it would have been sooo easy to do right?? IMO maybe it has more to do with who you are friends with then whether I brought this car out into the open...BTW..Chuck makes a valid point..have you seen every car you've ever commented on??? What about Ebay...ghee others here don't hesitiate to crush someones car unless of course it is a "vauled" memember of the SYC.. then it is hush hush. When is the last time I showed up at a show and had an original owner call me out on a restamp? I guess someone forgot about that..At least I have a rather intimate knowledge of the way this car looked prior to its' "reincarnation." Maybe "Christine" left a 1958 Chrysler profduct and took residence up in a 1969 Yenko???

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I am done with this thread...If anyone wants more info PM me or email..it is useless to waste bandwith any longer on this car...It is whatever it is...

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You see now it's getting to be bullshit...you made your point and that's great..there will always be people who hang together and know each other in these boards...hell I'll even admit to knowing Charley...favoritism has no place here though...I'm guilty of it too sometimes...but this board has grown a whole lot in the past year so we should all try a bit harder on sticking with the facts and staying neutral too....but no need to be nasty...wait 5 minutes and re-read before you hit the "send" button.

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Edited. I was thinking that Grag had never seen the car but now know he has.

Anyway Im getting my popcorn out.

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Chuck The things we talk about(RIP) on e-bay are things we see in the pictures. The wrong carb,wrong alt, wrong valve covers. I don't remember any body stating wrong body !!! Greg is wrong on this.

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I have NEVER seen the car !!

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WHAT'S THIS CALLING ON A RESTAMP. YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT, IS THIS MORE SECOND HAND INFO. THAT CAR I KNOW AND HAVE SEEN IT.

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This is the last post from me on this thread..I spoke to someone tonight that more or less confirms the cowl back rebody...but the VIN and cowl tags weren't moved from their original locations on the original cowl or dash..Just don't want anybody thinking anything highly illegal was done on this car. The car is what it is..enough said..let's talk about something positive...Anybody found/bought any cool cars lately???

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My understanding is the car in question had another back half spliced on at the floorboard area. That does not involve removing or restamping the vin so it is not illegal. You might not like the car but by the law I think it is OK....... I remember posting a couple years ago about a certain ZL1 being a rebody. I got chewed out by the owner for the post and at the time he did not know it was a rebody. I thought everybody knew about it. In hindsight I probably should have told him privately but at the time I didn't even know he bought it. He did manage to unwind the sale. Not sure what point I wanted to make but I don't think there is a easy answer. Yes it would be great if all we needed to do was post that we are thinking about a car and get everyones info on it but that also alerts everyone about the car being for sale. Tough call.

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I don't understand the "but then it alerts everyone to the car being for sale" comment? Is there some sort of elite group who gets first crack at these cars and that is why a person like me can't seem to get one EVEN if I have money in hand?! The alerting people of a car possibly being for sale is the WORST POSSIBLE EXCUSE for not alerting someone. I was feeling all warm and fuzzy about this earlier.....but now I have a dander problem again! Someone please help me!

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Phil, where are you from in Iowa? Schonye

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hhmmmm. This is a very interesting thread to say the least.......One must question the motives of the poster to bring such a subject to light. This is not something that is usually just "brought up" everyday........

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Tom, Rob, Charley and gang...sorry to post this but I've been nice way too long...

Frank...all I can say is get a freaking life..crawl out of Rick P.'s shadow and stay out of my business...I think I said what my motive was..to relay some info about a car...If you or your petty, egomanical (that means he has a big ego Frank..don't want the big word to scare you...) friend have anything to say to me then step up and grow a set...Otherwise leave me alone..I think enough people know by now how you stuck you nose somewhere it didn't belong (that would have been in a matter that in no way concerned you or had anything to do with you..)trying to come to Rick's rescue where he stuck his foot in his mouth at Vettefest and I called him out on it..It wasn't your issue, but yet you made it "yours." Therefore I and the rest of the world would appreciate if you crawled back under the rock you came from and if you don't have something germane to say..keep your mouth shut.

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Phil, I think Charley is just saying that when somebody asks for information about a car that could possibly be a Yenko, COPO, Dana, BM or other supercar, everyone that reads the post will be sending emails, making phone calls or getting a military satellite positioned to find the car and try to buy it before you will ever get an answer. So if you do find a car, make sure nobody knows anything about it or it's whereabouts before asking for help. Or you might find something sharp sticking out of your back! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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Greg I will not start a flame war with you on this site but I along with several others here have concluded that you are an unstable person.

Fellas I could but will not post on this site several scary and weird PM's and e-mails that Greg has sent me. He is obsessed with certain people here and continues to drag others in to fulfill his vendetta with them. I am pretty cool with a lot of people on this site and most know that I do not "stand in the shadow" of anybody. If you have any further comments direct them to me offline.

When you start a thread as stupid as this be prepared to get feedback. When you say something in a public forum it becomes everybodys business.

Oh and BTW choose only to say on this or any site what you prepare to say to ones face. We will see each other again.

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O.K. so now it's time to wrap this thread up....I think points have been made and cooler heads are prevailing...so lets talk about that little frickin key buzzer switch for a while...and why the hell did someone invent it ?

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I thought folks on this board genreally considered a "firewall back rebody" to be an "extensive restoraton" I remember a thread a couple of years ago that generally concluded that as long as the VINs (public and hidden) were not messed with, anything else was fair game.

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Frank,

First off there ISN'T a need to start a "flame war" on this or any other site regarding any differences that we have. The FACT of the matter is that YOU started in on Thanksgiving Day by sending me a PM in response to what happened at Vettefest between Rick Peters and myself. I called Rick out after I had kept hearing that he was spreading complete untruths about the green LS6 and myself. Even though he just knew me by my name (Greg),had never met me in person,and hadn't seen the car or the paperwork in over 10 years he still proceeded to tell people things that were completely untrue. I introduced myself to Rick as "Scott," which is my given middle name and a name he didn't know me by..Now is it my fault he proceeds to tell a complete "stranger" things he has no business saying and telling others that were there incorrect info to make himself look like he knows the car and me??? You then step in, in the interest of taking up for your little friend, on what the both you find to be a problem with me introducing myself using my middle name, on an issuethat you were neither a part of nor were you there you send me a PM..the bottom line is this..I don't like you..I think you stick your nose in where it doesn't belong..I saved all of your PM's and my responses to them..so if you want others to see them..Just say so..Your comment was meant to take a "stab" at me, as anyone that reads the post and understands English can see that...These are the facts:

1) Rick Peters didn't know the car or me yet spoke dergogatory about me and the car to others at Vettefest including a complete stranger named "Scott"
2)He hasn't seent he car or its' paperwork in over 10 years
3) He implied that I wrote the words "pilot job" on both buildsheets..He even went so far as to say to others at Vettefest "how do we know Greg didn't write that 3 years ago?" yet he had a copy of one sheet saying "pilot job" on it way before I even knew the car (he had a copy of the sheet in 1994 at least)..AND he knew the owner of the car before I bought it and considered him a "friend"
4) I confronted Rick and I thought we worked out any differences at Vettefest
5) YOU were neither involved in our ongoing "dispute" over the last 3 years..NOR were YOU present during any of the conversations at Vettefest
6) YOU decided to send me a PM explaining you thought it was "shixxy" what I did to Rick at Vettefest and then after I told you it wasn't your business YOU got beligerent.
7) YOU wrote a post last night trying to imply something..

As far as a this being a "stupid" thread..well I think you just showed your ignorance..I have had many people call me, PM me, thank me..I had the current owner thank me, as it wasn't info he said he knew (whether this is the case..who knos..)..I've even spoken to the "man" himself this morning..and we agreed to disagree on the car..Therefore why don't you and your "friend" get a life and leave me alone..

BTW..Instead of making a some half assed inneuendo about "meeting me again"..grow a set..step up and say exactly what you mean...I'll be more than happy to accomadate you or the golf club bar manager...This topic is over..

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Wow........you just keep making yourself look better and better.....keep going.......your are just doing yourself in. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/crazy.gif

First you tell everybody that you save every written word that you give and recieve.

Then you tell everybody that you pretend to be someone else...truly scary. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

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So do we call you Scott or Greg. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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We have been requested to unlock this thread. If things get out of hand we will either lock it back up or delete it completely.

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I say Delete it! What is the purpose of draging this on any longer.It should have never even benn posted in the first place.Greg NEVER got permission to BAD mouth his car to begin with....... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif
The "MOF"

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I was the one who requested it to be reopened,but Have reconsidered.
I agree with the Mayor,Delete it.Nothing more the Mudslinging will be added,and that accomplishes nothing. Appreciate the consideration though.