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Charley Lillard 12-28-2003 03:35 PM

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This is just a reminder to those involved in this discussion to post your disagreements in a Civil manner if you want the discussion to continue. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif[/img] We all hate Pontiacs here anyway but we do like watching this Train Wreck. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Charley.gif[/img]

copo9566aa 12-28-2003 03:37 PM

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Chuck Brumfield [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Steve_Hoog 12-28-2003 03:40 PM

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"Pontiac sucks"????????????

Charely do you own a Ford?

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copo9566aa 12-28-2003 03:48 PM

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Jim Stewart and Milt Schornack [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Steve_Hoog 12-28-2003 03:53 PM

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Tripower rulz!!! And whoever started the rumor that they are hard to tune or keep tuned, has never worked one.

Copo and his pictures [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif[/img]

copo9566aa 12-28-2003 03:55 PM

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Jim Stewart and the 63 Catalina [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Steve_Hoog 12-28-2003 04:00 PM

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This Jim Stewart looks just like a modern day actor, I can't remember his name but.

Copo I wonder if these old mechanics even care that they were there in all of this, what an awesome thing it had to be. I was just born in 63, only thing I was concerned with, fresh diaper and milk.

Ford lovers [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif[/img]

copo9566aa 12-28-2003 04:03 PM

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Royal Pontiac Detroit Hot-Rod Show at cobo Hall Not COPO [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

copo9566aa 12-28-2003 04:06 PM

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Steved
I have no problem with Ford and Shelby [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
But my favorite = MOPAR [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

copo9566aa 12-28-2003 04:16 PM

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Royal Racing Team ads.

Steve_Hoog 12-28-2003 04:22 PM

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I don't really hate Ford, I just love to beat them at the track. I enjoy nothing more than a 5.0 pulling up to me at the line.

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Charley Lillard 12-28-2003 04:27 PM

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Closet 73 Super Duty owner.

copo9566aa 12-28-2003 04:27 PM

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I don't really hate Ford, I just love to beat them at the track.

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Steved warning with a T-bolt [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Steve_Hoog 12-28-2003 04:44 PM

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In my limited racing expierence, the one thing I continually had trouble with were Corvettes. There is no scientific basis for that, just coincidence. So I bought and built a Vette.

Thank goodness I have never had trouble with Ford's!!!!!

I would be more than happy to own an early Fastback Pony, or a Demon, or a Cuda. Some day, when I've had everything else I want.

OH MAN, an old Willy's with a Hemi!!! Can't forget about that one.

Belair62 12-28-2003 05:06 PM

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Copo I wonder if these old mechanics even care that they were there in all of this, what an awesome thing it had to be.

[/ QUOTE ] These guys were probably like anyone else ....earning a living...a little magazine exposure was probably cool.How could their arthritic hands,busted up knuckles and hernias know that 40 years later there would be lunatics poring over every move made back then and tried to make historical sense out of it !!!..they would have dressed better if they knew !!

GOAT72 12-28-2003 06:28 PM

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Jim Stewart and Milt Schornack [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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Roger (Copo9546aa),

All of your photos are amazing! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Do you mind me asking where they came from?
Do you own them?
How can I get a copy of that CD?

Thank you for posting them.

(BTW, I used to write for an entertainment company in Montreal. Are you in that city?)

~GOAT72

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/CharleySucks.gif[/img]
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

GOAT72 12-28-2003 06:32 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
This is just a reminder to those involved in this discussion to post your disagreements in a Civil manner if you want the discussion to continue. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif[/img] We all hate Pontiacs here anyway but we do like watching this Train Wreck. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Charley.gif[/img]

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Charley,
I'll try to ignore the opinions of our own self-appointed "Minister of Information".
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
~Goat72


copo9566aa 12-28-2003 07:06 PM

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Goat72

The pics is from my many old Magazines collection .
I'am just starting the CD about Royal and Bobcat. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
I like scanning working and sharing old mag pics with
other members of Yenko.net. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]
My Location (estimate) MontrČal, QuČbec ,Canada... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Steve_Hoog 12-28-2003 07:15 PM

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I'm not one for wearing clothes, normally. But that almost looks like a Snap On break over bar laying on the radiator support, least they had good taste in tools.

copo9566aa 12-28-2003 07:19 PM

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Pontiac's baddest made better! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Steve_Hoog 12-28-2003 11:35 PM

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Michigan public records:
Milton Franis Shornack
La Roche Drive West
Macomb MI
Born 07/08/1935

This was sent to me in a private email, if this is the correct person and information my calculator says... 68

55chevy 12-29-2003 02:04 AM

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GOAT, fill your name in on your profile buddy. It's just a common curtosy we have around here. http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...iggthumpup.gif http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...lins/beers.gif

GOAT72 12-30-2003 12:53 AM

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GOAT, fill your name in on your profile buddy. It's just a common curtosy we have around here. http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...iggthumpup.gif http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...lins/beers.gif

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Ed,
Yes, I am well-aware of this, but for now, I can't.
I am currently in negotiations with a publisher and a major film studio for rights to a property I wrote last year.

I can not identify myself My literary agency would become quite upset with me if word got out. This stuff is all copyrighted, but we needn't "share" it with the general public. http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...aemlins/no.gif

When the deal is done, I will gladly tell y'all who I am.

http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...mlins/grin.gif
~G72

Belair62 12-30-2003 01:09 AM

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huh ???? what stuff is copyrighted ???the banter between you and Bobcat ?

GOAT72 12-30-2003 01:53 AM

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huh ???? what stuff is copyrighted ???the banter between you and Bobcat ?

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Ha ha!
No! Belair, my written work is copyrighted and registered with the Writer's Guild!
http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...mlins/haha.gif

~G72

MrsBillyBobcat 12-30-2003 02:25 AM

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GOAT72

You need to identify yourself.

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Guys,

I mean no disrespect here, but I feel GOAT72 is being unfairly singled out. There are numerous users on here who do not have their profile filled out at all, and who knows how many are filled in with “bogus” information. He has everything filled in but his name. The user “pont406” (who has NOTHING in his profile) spoke up 3 times in the “70 Judge RA IV and V Cont.” thread and no one asked him to "identify himself". I noticed someone tonight who has been on here since 2000, has 785 posts and NO NAME in his profile! http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...ns/shocked.gif

I, for one, do not have a problem if someone does not want to use their “real” name. What bothers me, however, is someone registering MULTIPLE user names with false information. They then can make it appear that there are multiple people who feel the same way about something, or worse, can use their “other” name when they want to post something mean or nasty http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...s/rolleyes.gif. I am aware of an individual who has done this http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...ns/naughty.gif (and you know who you are!)

Rita http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...ns/burnout.gif

sYc 12-30-2003 02:33 AM

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Rita, point well taken. We are not picking on anyone, just trying to tighten down on a few rules. And, most times, when we ask someone to complete their profile, it is done by private message. If you know of someone who is abusing their priviledge to post, PLEASE let us know. We do the best we can, but can always use some help.

hvychev 12-30-2003 05:25 AM

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hmmm. Tom BTW where is your name in your profile??? http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...mlins/grin.gif http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...ins/tongue.gif http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...ns/worship.gif

GOAT72 12-30-2003 11:34 AM

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[quote
Guys,

I mean no disrespect here, but I feel GOAT72 is being unfairly singled out. There are numerous users on here who do not have their profile filled out at all, and who knows how many are filled in with “bogus” information. He has everything filled in but his name. <snip>
What bothers me, however, is someone registering MULTIPLE user names with false information. They then can make it appear that there are multiple people who feel the same way about something, or worse, can use their “other” name when they want to post something mean or nasty http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...s/rolleyes.gif. I am aware of an individual who has done this http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...ns/naughty.gif (and you know who you are!)

Rita http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...ns/burnout.gif

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Thanks, Reet!
http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...mlins/wink.gif
I could have just plugged-in a bogus name and misled Eric and his hidden supporters, Eric, Eric and Eric.

ONLY KIDDING!!!

Rather than simply being evasive and plugging an alias into my profile, I have simply chosen to remain anonymous for the time being.
My book deal should be signed in a week or two and then I will happily come out from behind the curtain.

Some people who have been polite (like Rita) already know who I am.
Just because I raise alotta valid points against Eric's incessant hatred for a single individual doesn't mean I'm
a hit & run member. It only means I have a few of my own "Royal Experts" at my finger tips.

By the way, I asked Milt how old he was last year and he said, "71" so I guess I'd better call him today and ask him again.
If Steved's source is correct I will give him his due, of course!
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~G72

Keith Tedford 12-30-2003 12:21 PM

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It makes for a better web site if no one gets cut up. If you are in that mode then use your real name. You can always e-mail people privately if you have information that they should know. Nothing wrong with that.

sYc 12-30-2003 03:51 PM

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hmmm. Tom BTW where is your name in your profile??? http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...mlins/grin.gif http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...ins/tongue.gif http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...ns/worship.gif

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Frank, until a couple of days ago, when we changed servers, my name was at the bottom of each and every post I made. http://host.threadshosting.com/~yenk...lins/beers.gif

GOAT72 12-30-2003 11:19 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Michigan public records:
Milton Franis Shornack
La Roche Drive West
Macomb MI
Born 07/08/1935

This was sent to me in a private email, if this is the correct person and information my calculator says... 68

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Based upon the mispellings, and his repeated references to the state of Michigan office of records, I'd venture to say, albeit in MY OWN OPINION, that "Bobcat" probably took the time to retrieve Milt's D.O.B.

Nonetheless, I stand corrected -- Milt told me that he was born on July 8, 1935. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

So I guess I should unsubscribe from these boards for the next 18 months? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/crazy.gif

My apologies to anyone that my misquoted age-of-Milt may have inconvenienced. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

Take care,
GOAT72

GOAT72 12-30-2003 11:27 PM

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It makes for a better web site if no one gets cut up. If you are in that mode then use your real name. You can always e-mail people privately if you have information that they should know. Nothing wrong with that.

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Thanks, Keith,
But I was not cutting anyone up, per se.
I was simply defending Milt Schornack who was not here to do it himself, and I was defending written history, versus 2nd-hand hearsay.

I am now in possession of several dozen articles concerning Royal Pontiac from 1963 through 1966. I can't wait to wade through 'em!

Happy New Year!
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
GOAT 72

Belair62 12-31-2003 01:14 AM

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Although I do read a lot of stuff....you also have to be cautious about "written history" IMO...sometimes there is as much fantasy/hype as fact.Being a writer I'm sure you are well aware of that and sift thru with a skeptical eye.

GOAT72 12-31-2003 11:32 AM

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Although I do read a lot of stuff....you also have to be cautious about "written history" IMO...sometimes there is as much fantasy/hype as fact.Being a writer I'm sure you are well aware of that and sift thru with a skeptical eye.

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Yes, I agree.
I read a dozen or so articles last night. Some of these were road tests on the GTO -- including the famous GTO vs. Ferrari GTO (where they never actually ran against each other.)
All of these articles were loaded with facts and photos.
Let me tell you -- Milt Schornack was no "doormat" at Royal.
There were dozens and dozens of photos showing him working on Pontiac engines at Royal. These articles included quotes from Dick Jesse and lots of praise for both Schornack and Jim Wangers.
You see?
This stuff can be alotta fun when you read it without a "slant" or ill-feelings (or outright hatred) for anyone.

Unless these major car magazines decided to spend time and a TON of $$ to "stage" a bunch of photos and create a major Royal Pontiac hoax, I would say that Dick Jesse, Jim Wangers, and YES, MILT SCHORNACK, were all major contributors to the Royal legend!
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Happy New Year to alL!
~GOAT72 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

copo9566aa 12-31-2003 02:57 PM

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Another cool picture https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Steve_Hoog 12-31-2003 03:10 PM

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Yep, that's a nice one.

GOAT72 12-31-2003 06:48 PM

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Another cool picture https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Hey Roger,
Is that Lee Harvey Oswald leaning against the car?!?!

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

Just kiddin'.... nice photo!

G72

JLP 12-31-2003 07:58 PM

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Here is another one. '62 Cat Post.

Belair62 12-31-2003 11:03 PM

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LOLOL...Looks like HVYCHVY's Dad !!!Oswald was casing the Texas Schoolbook Repository at the time !!


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