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That is exactly the way it appears to me as well. I can not quite make out the name on the door though.

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The Chevelle is Ray Allen's '70 LS6 ragtop. That car was really a killer in SS. The Camaro is "One Step Beyond II" and I think "I" was a SS mopar (memory??). Jeff, one of the board members on an old SS newsgroup I'm on is trying to get Al online... said he has lots of pics. Anybody know anything about the Musser Bros. Chevelle, like color. class, etc. I understand the Mussers are still around also. I don't know if Olster's car was a COPO but grille was changed early as it's not correctly painted. My guess is probably like Jenkins' car and is a converted SS.
Greg S.

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This is a neat thread because these cars are from my area. Musser bros had a 1969 427 chevelle. (Jenkins Competition) I don't think the car was a COPO. I was at Maple Grove Dragway when with a 4 speed Barry Musser ran a 10.99 in SS/D. Supposedely the first 10 second SS/D run. The car was blue. They won there class at Indy and painted the car white and messed around with an automatic once and a while. I probably could find out where that car went, if I can find the right people. Musser's really didn't keep up with the cars after they sold them. They had one of the first 1967 Z/28's around. Went to a 68 Z, then to a big block camaro and chevelle. I believe Al Olsters car was a 375 H.P. car originally. The picture with Ray Allen racing Al Olster is Maple Grove. Mohnton, Pa. Keep this stuff coming, My 50 year old mind is exploding. Sam [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Anyone have any pics of the musser bros Chevelle? I have seen some on www.thevintageracer.com/ but that's it.

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------Its a 70 Chevelle convert and has Ray Allen on the door.Any guesses as to which car it is.Also says SS/EA on the window.If the pic was color I do believe it would be green,No?Im having a brain fart.Is it blue or green?...........Bill S

------Just realized that I hadnt seen all the posts,and the Ray A. connection had already been mentioned.Sorry to all........Bill S

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It's a 70 Chevelle convert that looks like Ray Allen as the driver. I cannot read the name on the door however.
Rick

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SS427,
It is Ray ALLEN---Briggs Chevrolet[on door]--JoeG

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Allen car was blue

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copo69,
Was that the Ontario Nationals '71??---JoeG

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Sam, Musser Chevelle was blue? What color was their Camaro...pics I've seen look off white, possibly Butternut Yellow. Do you remember color combo on Olster's Camaro? Greg

By the way someone stole my stars!!!!!!!!!!

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copo69,
Nice Photo------twinkle/twinkle [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

Have to check other colors---

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This is an old "wild tubes" catalog of Hooker Headers that I have from 1971. The Ray Allen Chevelle is the last car.

Man is the quality crap whwen you have to resize them so small! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Wow, now if the wife felt the same way.....

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another Allen pic... this thing kicked the crap out of the Mopars in class

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Here is the left hand page of the Hooker catalog.

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Joe, I think it's a Ray Mann photo at Ontario

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Frank,
That's a really nice catalog--you pick that up or your Dad had it floating around??--JoeG

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copo69,
Thanks!!!! for those photos[especially the colored one] --been looking for some photos of Ray Allen for the last couple of weeks-----If you were a Woman this conversation could get heated [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]--- [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

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ERTL Mic is going to build a 1/18 scale diecast of the Ray Allen 70 Chevelle.Be on the look out for it by the end of the year.

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chevelleman,
Thanks for the tip----I might have a colored photo of Musser Bros Chevrolet [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] I'LL have to check in the next couple of days.--JoeG

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JoeC;
If I email you a photo of the Huckleberry Hound (with Musser Bros. car in background), can you detach it for me - I messed it up somehow.

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yes send it

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This Thread is terrific..
First the Al Olster Camaro,then Ray Allens 70 Convert,now the Huckleberry hound car..
What a great group you all are! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
Hey Musclecarkid..You out there?

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this is the big pic

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this is the Chevelle with fish on door

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Thanks JoeC!
Very cool pic, eh? The HH car is indeed a COPO car, black, a/t! Not sure what the Chevelle is, any Musser experts out there know? Wasn't Musser Chev in Reading, PA?

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Great Pix Marlin & Joe!
I've never seen the HH camaro Before.
What is written inside the Fish on that Chevelle,and who drove it?

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Sorry, it's not Musser Chev. now that I have pulled the real picture from my file here, it says Bob Fisher Chev. inside the fish on the door. The Musser Bros. were the drivers I believe. I think Greg may have mentioned this on the other HH thread so I hope I remembered it correctly - I was engrossed by the Camaro!

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That fish looks a heck of a lot like the one on the door of my '61 (described in the "Mousie Brown" thread.)
Anyone know where Fisher Chevrolet was? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Verne.
PS: I'll contact Joel and see if he can dig up any more info on the Chevelle.

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The Chevelle is in SS/EA was that the 427 class or 396? I think it was 396.

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The Al Olster 1969 Camaro was white with a black interior. The broad stripe down the middle of the car was medium blue. The Camaro was ordered by Al and took four months to arrive. February was about the time the COPO Camaros started showing up at the dealers? The back panel was black between the tail lights, but the Jenkins 1969 SS/C car also had that paint effect and Jenkins had one of his 1970 1/2 Camaro Pro Stockers painted that way. Even the panel below the rear bumper was painted black on the 70 1/2 Camaro. The motors were painted black and the gas tank painted white... The front grill on the 1969 Jenkins SS/C car was black. That was the made up ZL-1 car that started out as a L-78. Rather than waiting 4 months, Al could have picked up a L-78 Camaro as the starting point for his SS/EA car; instead he waited...for a real 427 Camaro?

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If it's set up like the NHRA of today...

...then a natural "D" car could run in "E" if they added weight.

For example: I *believe* the W-31s were natural "E" cars (like the Deuces) back in the day, but a LOT of them ran in "F".

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------LS6 hardtops generally ran SS/DA.The convertables ran SS/EA as they had more weight to lug down the quarter.Im sure the adding of weight happened alot,but both Red Alert and the convert always ran their accepted class as far as I know..............Bill S

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The car pictured racing "One Step Beyond" is a 70 Chevelle convertible that was driven by Ray Allen. Here's a better picture of it.
http://pstr-m04.ygpweb.aol.com/data3...gDV++70180.jpg

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Since we got on the subject of the Musser's cars, here's a pick I have of the Musser Bros. Camaro.
Thanks to all for the info on these cars.

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Mussers chevelle was blue than white. I believe all his camaros, starting with 1967 were white. They also ran a 1961 corvette that was runner-up at Indy in 66?? Car was sold to Carmen Rotonda.

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I have some. Sam [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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Verne, Fisher Chevrolet is still in Reading. Musser was sponsored by Fisher Bros. and Marshall Chevrolet both in Reading. Not sure if Marshall is still there. Sam

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Sam,
Thanks a lot! I'm getting overly anxious that I may have stumbled onto a clue re: my '61. If he ran in '61, there's another clue. My '61 is white now and that fish on the door is very close to the other two cars. I've been sanding but haven't uncovered any lettering yet.
I appreciate the response. I know the '61 query is very out of place here.
Verne.

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Very few L72 COPOs other than Yenkos were built in January,however L72 Iron Blocks were readily available over the counter for those who wanted to build there own 427 Camaro.