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The R-79 his NOT being reproduced by anyone,never was nor will.To small a market for them to do this.Only a small percentage of cars in their eyes had them,so it does not make economical sense.It was only available for a short run,1970.1971 was the new R-89 Battery.I'm sure we as Muscle car owners would sure like to see the R79 remade properly.Today they all sell you a R-89 Delco battery.It has R-89 formed into the side next to E-5000.Then they sell you a top decal that says "Recommended Replacement with R79".It isn't concourse correct. The R-79 had an Elephant type texture case,and the R-89 has that.The terminal bolt sizes were each different on the R79 also.The R89 were both the same size terminal.I do have an R-79 & R89 NOS Batteries still sealed in their boxes,with warranty cards and caps in the bags.They are dry charge sealed,and can still be a reliable working battery today with care and patience.

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I knew we could count on you. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Thanks, Rick!

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Rick/Anyone,
What do you know about the battery offered by Year One? Their P/N HD89 says "All 1970 models and 1971-71 454 models with the T60 heavy-duty battery option. This battery has side terminals rated at 760 CCA and 950 CA. It is a reproduction of the R89W heavy-duty (Group 74) battery available in many models during the early 1970s. The battery features the correct "elephant hide" textured case and the "eye caps" for viewing the fluid level."
Has anyone seen or tried this piece? No mention of the thread size for the negative terminal.
Dennis

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Dennis
Thats the Reproduction Battery sold to them from Newcastle.
I believe either NewCastle or Antique Battery is the only one licensed to make it,then all the aftermarket houses buy it from them,at cost and charge what they will.
They sell you the R-79 decal and it becomes a 1970 battery.
They sell you the R-89 decal,and it stays the 1971 R-89 battery.
They all get the eye caps std.
This will not have the different size terminal bolts.to expesive for them to make.
I think you will have to settle for the R-89,no matter what.Shop around and find the best price,they are all coming from the same Factory...

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Here is the C-89 sealed, side post battery available in the Lemans and GTO in 1972. Did the Chevelles use it?

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In 1972,the R89 was still the Battery used in the Chevelle.

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mr70
I checked my hand written notes on the rear end gear code. This is what was stamped on the large gear in the rear end. GM3862689 13 43 8 69. 43 divided by 13 equals 3.31 rounded up of course. I verified this when I watch my video.
Ron

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MR70
I just got back from looking at my friend's 66,000 mile 70 Nova 396/350 with a side post battery. His car was built May 1970 and the negative cable was grounded to the engine block at the exact same spot as mine.
Ron

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Ron,
For what it's worth, I check my notes from when I pulled the rear end cover off mine to drain/refill the oil. Aside from the date code of 9 69, everything else is stamped the same. Also, my ground cable bolts to the block. I have no clue what battery the car came with new as it has seen too much action to still have something like that with it. I just had to check the mileage for insurance purposes (renewing). The odometer reads 32,291 ..... and it has been turned over once.

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Allen & All:
For all of you debating the battery issue, add one more heavy duty side post battery being grounded to the engine block. I just looked at a one owner all original 70 Monte Carlo SS454 and the owner said it came with a heavy duty side post battery. The orginal cables were still there. Build date was 2nd week of October 1969. On a side note, this car was sold from the same dealer mine was sold from.
Ron [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

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My 05C SS396 is the earliest BB I've seen with sideposts. (69 Camaro, of course.)

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Kurt S,
If you don't mind me asking, where is it grounded? The engine block or on the alternator bracket? Wow, that is an extremely early car! Maybe it's just me but doesn't that assembly date seem like it should be a late 68 car?
Ron [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

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On my 1969 alt bracket there are only two holes on top. One is for a heater hose bracket bolt, the other is for a plastic clip that is attached to wire harness for alt. There is no place for the bat. ground cable on the alt. bracket so bat cable bolts to block. Car has it's original wire harness.

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JoeC
That is exactly how mine was. Only two holes on the alternator bracket. One for hose bracket, one for the plastic wiring plug.
Ron [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

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I remember it's different than what I normally see, but I don't have a pic of it and it's in storage.......

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My October 1969 70 Velle came with 4 holes n the Alt. bracket.
*one for heater hoses
*one for Alt. wiring
*one for Battery ground w/star washer indents
*one 1" circle for adjusting the Alt.belt tension with a pry bar

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The upper alternator bracket without the adjustment hole was 69 only. But what about late 69 (after the 70 Chevelle, Impala, etc came out. Were they 69 style, or 70 style.

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Unreal,
My bracket is for a 70 Nova. It was built during the 3rd week of August 1969. It does not have the large adjustment hole. My friend who has a 3rd week of May, 1970 car has the adjustment hole for his 1970 Nova SS 396/350 hp side post battery car. I'll probably look at a buddy's 70 Monte SS454 again this weekend and I'll try to remember to look to see if his has the hole. His is a October 1969 built car with a side post battery.
Ron [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

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Ron,
That Monte Carlo has no adjustment access hole.
Rick

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I think that the only hole used on the big block Novas is the one for the alternator wiring holder. All of the old road test photos hat I have seen on big block Novas have no heater hose bracket and no ground cable on the alternator bracket.

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bbDon
Just curious. Are those old road test photos of 396/375 hp cars or 396/350 hp cars? Or Both? When I got my car from the original owner, it didn't have the hose bracket. It also didn't have the front engine lift bracket on the front of the intake manifold. Does it show any of the lift brackets in the photos?
Ron [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

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Neither the L34 nor the L78 seemed to get the heater hose bracket, though I did see one exception. That one is the Motion phase three car from Cars Magazine in 69 . Not a good example, because of the many other changes that were made on that car. All of the cars that I have pictures of do have the lift brackets. If you still have the original alternator bracket , you can look in the hole and see if it looks like a bolt was screwed into it before. Mine did not seem to have any threads cut into the holes.

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Mine must just be a weird one all together.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...37280203czthhI

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...50666837FPpMuK

If you look close, you can see the battery cable bolted to the block.