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Ken haven't done anything since I put it up for sale.When you get into these funnycars its a 50/50 thing.Theres a couple people telling me I have something and a couple people telling me no.I'm selling while I'm even. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] If you would like to know anything let me know on PM board I'll get you the info .I accept it for what it is updated chassis original 69 body.

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Tim
Post a free wanted ad on www.drag.race-cars.com for the Hardy chassis. Lots of vintage stuff is either for sale or wanted on that site.
Dave

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Ken wheelbase is about 118" wheel center to wheelcenter.Thanks Dave

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Picture of 68 Camaro F/C (Steve Bovan)Blair's Speed Shop.

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And the gold 68 F/C with Fastback (Style Charger roof).

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For anyone interested- Here are some original Dick Harrell photographs I found posted on the Webshots.com website. Very interesting!

Go to these links:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...2790OqFuUvwzEe

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...2799jFAvhhbWcz

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...3055UakGaMFwTF

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...52017511hEbhDg

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...52017425KbBSHf

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...49827045oxKZaY

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Thanks Hotrodchev
For anyone interested 4 pics of the 69 Cut-away display Camaro.
on the album (Car Shows Of The Past).

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nice pictures. I have a 67-69 Camaro fiberglass trunk lid made by AI Fiberglass. It has painted on the spoiler "they call me the breeze" and the name "COOK" is visible on the top but faded off. It was held on by 4 zuse fittings. I wonder what car it was on.

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here is the tag that is molded in under the resin. It has a 1969 date hand writen on it.

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Ken & Dave got some info last night that the body could have belonged to a guy named Kosty Ivanhoff.Anybody have any pics or info on him?Was he bigtime? Supposidly the car was the same color,stripes(but gold) and same sheetmetal work.P.S. my scoop is an add on.Thanks for any help

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copolocater, what did you do with the pictures I sent you last month of Kosty's car? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] There were some good pics of the tinwork and body. Call me tomorrow after lunch as I am finally painting my car [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] ..................RatPack...........

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A couple months ago a friend of mine here in town was telling me about a car he built in the mid 60's. He was working at a small garage in St. Louis and they built a convert. chevy II. Before they got it finished someone bought the car. I showed him this pic and he swears that it is the same car. He is trying to find some more pics that he thinks he has. Small world! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

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moparts,

It would be great to see the pics if your friend is able to locate them. As I said before, this car never performed as expected and from what I know it was retired after only 1-season. From what I've seen, pics seem to be pretty scarce of this car. I'll look for some other magazine articles I have of this car and try and get them posted here in the near future.

Tim "Hotrodchev"

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My friend is looking as well for some more pics. Would like to see anything you can find.

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The Chevy II roadster funny is the car that was parked in front of Dick's shop in Granite City, just outside of East St. Louis, when Herb Fox first met Dick. This was the summer of 1967. Dick had his '67 Yenko sponsored Camaro funnycar in early August at Beardstown, when he first came to LaHarpe. I know he had the Camaro at the first UDRA meet on June 13, 1967, so it seems he had both during the late spring and summer of 1967, but not the end of the summer.

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Tim,
Who was that Nice Lady telling you that she towed your Funny Car back and forth from the race track at least 150 times? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

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Stef that lady happened to be Nancy Gibb ,Freds daughter.It was great to see how excited she was about the car.Glad you guys were there to treasure the moment!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Something I'll never forget.Did she really say she hauled it 150 times?

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No Tim, she said at least 150 times. Yes,it was a neat Reunion and don't know, even as optomistic as I have been known to be that I could have appreciated the drama unless I had been there to witness it first hand.

Tell us more about the story, I didn't want to intrude on the moment.

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Stef you share the story it might sound egotistical coming from me.It needs your input.She's a super nice lady.Tell the story.There was only a few who were there and I came in late.You were there the whole time.When she came over you should have told her it was yours [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

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Tim,
I guess I can start with the story as I was sorting through the remainder of your Mr. Norm's Memorabilia with Ricky Smith. Kevin Hand was only a few Radio Flyer Wagon lengths away from us, but focused on closing a Multi Yenko T-Shirt deal. There were quite a few other list members present as well.

She had her finger raised and pointed towards the car as she inquired who it belonged to. I had never met any of the Gibb's, so I didn't know who she was for sure untill you told me. for all I knew it could have been Dick Harrell's daughter or someone else.

I pointed you and your Father out to her and she commented, as she walked over to meet you, that "I have trailered that car at least 150 times back and forth from the race track". She did appear too young to have trailered the car on her own but ,I became aware of what seemed to be taking place. She appeared to be ,almost mezmorized and drawn to the car as she walked towards it.

Once the two of you started talking about the history of the car and looking over the old clues and tell tail signs of its heritage,i just tried to give you some space.

I did hear her say that as far as she and her mother were concerned that they had just found the back-up Dickie Harrell/Fred Gibb funny car.

Please fill us in on what I missed?

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Stefano, it appears you have lost your "m"

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Very cool Tim what a nice find. I was glad to be just a couple a cars away when history was found. Im glad I have some pictures of car for Dyno Dom museum. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

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i think i have the virus, no nn's caps don't work ect ect.

'nnr gasser' has the price of addnnission to the nnuseunn gone up do to the historic event?

tinn,
i did offer to buy the car, fronn your dad while this was taking place, but he turned nne down and said that selling the car would be put on hold for the tinne. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif[/img]

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Nothing against people with viruses but [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif[/img] Next time in current english not old world dialect [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif[/img] Can't tell it any better than that Stefano.I was in awe as she walked around the car and pointed different items out.Either way it confirmed what some of us thought(Ratpack) that there were two 69s and she confirmed that when she said she was there the day they were both painted.P.S. that radio flyer is currently in our possesion and undergoing a frame off resto.Weren't satisfied with its current condition!! Thanks Dom

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I would like to get something straight before it gets out of hand,I in no way at any time tried to convince Nancy Gibb that this was her fathers funnycar body.She did the convincing.We at no time knowing they were there ask her to take a look at the car,she stumbled across it walking around.I had the car for sale at what I thought was fair market value as a 69 funnycar.My father had an offer for a trade on a supposed NICKEY/BILL THOMAS LA car as Mark Hassett can attest to and another big block 69 camaro.She told us not to sell the car as she walked away.She even felt bad because she felt people were making fun of here over the excitement she showed over the car and I informed her they weren't that they were in awe over what she was saying.We did go over photos and discuss other things as well.She is a very gracious person and we appreciated the time she spent talking to my father,myself and other site members. I accept what Nancy and Mrs. Gibb have to say on this subject.They were there.

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Tim,
I can certainly attest that it was a chance meeting,and she was telling you what you had, whether or not the car was discussed with her by someone else and she was pointed in that direction I do not know.

She didn't seem to mix words when she said that there were definately two cars.

I certainly do not know anything other than what she said.

I hope I didn't offend her, I was after all quite a bit giddy and overwhelmed.

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Tim
It was nice to meet you and put a face to the name at VF.I saw this F/C and enjoyed it as well.Were you able to have her to sign the F/C..If so where did she do it at?

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No Stef nobody offended her she was just excited over the car and didn't want to seem like she felt you guys thought she didn't know what she was talking about.No didn't have her sign the car it was in the afternoon and didn't want to take up alot of her time.I was just excited myself just to be in her presence and have her being so kind to speak to us. She didn't have a full understanding of what was happening when she was speaking.First time I've seen those guys listening instead of talking [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img] .Whatever happens I was in the presence of something that you just can't explain.I'll never forget it. I'm humbled

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Congrats Tim. I found the original owner/builder of a 66 GTO funny car I owned. When these folks find out a very dear part of their past is still around after all these years it has quite an affect on them. I also found the original owner of my Y Chevelle ...his wife was nearly in tears..they had no idea the car was still alive after all these years.Same deal with a Super Duty Pontiac I had. The original owner had passed away but the Mrs. talked for an hour about the good times they had ordering and racing that car. Make the family proud and get it painted and lettered again.

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Bob,
Would that be the famous 'Blue Goose' Super Duty.

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Yep Steve...Actually it wasn't real famous. It was a local racer.Original owner went to Mercury after GM shut them down with their official ban on racing in '63.I still have a dash plaque from a benefit held in original owners name sponsored by Beswick.....let the new owner know my number if they would like it.

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I am certain that he would like to have it. The Goose is one of the cornerstones in his Pontiac collection.

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Hello copo9566AA,

Interesting ad you posted. Do you or anyone else here have any other information about this car or Mr. Bezdichek? Being from Minnesota myself, I began to wonder if Mr. Bezdichek had run this car out at Minnesota Dragways while he had owned it. Sure enough, after a little investigative work, I ran across Mr. Bezdichek's name listed in a MN. Dragways newsletter dated July 16, 1972. Although the last name is spelled incorrectly, the remainder of the information corresponds with the same information given in the ad that you posted. "J." for John, "N.U" New Ulm, Minnesota, "70 Chev.", etc. See attachment on bottom right hand corner.

Not the most impressive times, but still interesting to read.

Tim "Hotrodchev"
'68 Nova SS
'68 Chevelle SS
'69 Chevelle SS
'72 Cheyenne Super SWB

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Hi Tim "Hotrodchev"

Very interesting [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

The ads is from HOT CARS Magazine July 1973
This magazine is published only four times a year(in 1973).

Class 2E/MP MP is for Modified Production but 2E ???.

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That class sounds like an AHRA classification. The Yenko Deuce was AHRA classified as 3EA, I was told that the 3 indicated a type of carb(s), the E was class, the A was automatic. I'm not sure on that 3 definition though, or in this case the 2.

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Does this sound more like a Dick Harrell prepared car than one that was actually raced by Harrell? Just curious, are there any known '70 Harrell Camaro's in existance and did these cars receive any other special touches like "Harrell" badging, hood or suspension upgrades besides the typical engine treatments? I need some "ed-ju-ma-ka-shun" please. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif[/img]

Tim "Hotrodchev"

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Copolocater. I haven't seen the pictures of the car I see being posted about how it is a Dick Harrell 69 funny car
or just the body. I know several people who worked for Dick at the time and I also spent a fair amount of time with Dick,and the crew. I have located all but 1 of the people who could shine some real light on it. According to these people, who were more than teenagers at the time, there was only 1 car and 1 body. The car that year did have a few different paint jobs, which would lead people to believe there was more than 1 car.I will send a picture of what was left of the real 69 car as it left the home of Elaine Harrell around this time in 2000. At that time it did belong to Valerie. I wonder if Nancy Gibb could have the cars confused, being that the ZL1 and the F/C were finished close to the same time and painted a lot alike?
There were Camaros Funny cars every where in 68 and 69 Your body could be anyones.I would say there were 100 active cars at the time Kosty Ivanof was on the scene until about 1982.He was from the east coast.Best of luck on your car.

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This string of posts has been interesting to say the least!

You will notice I performed an edit on copolocators above post. I did this with Tim's permission. I was concerned regarding keeping this post as positive as possible. I care not to comment regarding his funnycar body, as I am not a knowledgeable source for funnycars. As I have stated in the past on this site, I offer to act as a conduit for any information that may help identify Fred Gibb or Dick Harrell cars that members or visitors request assistance with. I only desire the truth be posted on this site, so lets hold off on any judgements. As you have read on the main page, copolocator has signed off, so I do not know if further debate or posts will be acknowleged by him. Hopefully, someday he will rejoin us. I know he has many friends on this site.

Now..........lets get on with the original intention of JoeC when he started this post. I have always been interested in Dick's early cars, does anyone have good quality pics of the 1962 bubbletop 409 or 1963 Z11? Does anyone know what was his very first drag car?

Ken Boje [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

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I agree with you Ken, however, I think there are too many people who take any opportunity to downplay the authenticity & value of other people's cars. I'm afraid many self proclaimed experts compile information from a variety of sources, some accurate, some not, and, combine it with some urban myth that has been created over time. When presented as confidently as these people do, it comes off as absolute fact. Haven't we learned that when it comes to these cars, there is very little that is "absolute"?

As far as the Harrell funny cars, first there was only one. Then there was a "rumor" of a second. Now, maybe there are three. Maybe the people with the cars that are "verified" are simply protecting their own investment by making claims of exclusivity.
Knowing the time spent by the two Gibb ladies, and, the details they looked for and observed on Tim's car, I think further investigation is justified. To dismiss a car, or at least the body, based on what some people say, perhaps for their own financial gain, isn't fair. Maybe we can wait for all the facts to be discovered before we pass judgement on any of these issues.

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I don't know who you are or where you came from but I see you just registered on the site yesterday.Who called you to let you know this subject was being discussed on this site?I think that you know as does the administrator of this site that there were 2 funnycars if not possibly 3.We have numerous documentation to prove it.You take whatever stance you need to take by whomever sent you to this site but to question the Gibb family you better be able to back yourself up by documentation not by hearsay.We've done that.I've already spoken to a couple of those people they were wrong. Whether this is a car or not isn't the point to us now its the premise.We've been deceived and were not happy.The reason for me leaving this site is because at the reunion I had a conversation with the administrator and a couple in the know that gaurenteed me that there was only 1 car and it was an extended body car that there was no backup.And now Nancy and Mrs. Gibb has informed us there were 2.The administrator of this site sent me a private message letting us know he knows who has the backup car and he feels its not ours.Read again he knows who has the backup car.Why wasn't I told of this when I asked?This information isn't something that needs to be kept secret.I feel betrayed.Again this isn't about ewhether our car is or isn't its about honesty.Every one has looked at videoed pictured and touched our car its been out there. I think we need to start looking the other way.Since there is a backup car that the administrator confirms lets see it.I'm on my way to Daytona to have a good time I've spoken my piece .This isn't about us or our car anymore this needs to go the other direction.P.S.Our car is a stockbody 118" wheelbase car.Valerie has the only extended body Fred Gibb /Dick harrell extended wheelbase car known to exist.You want to investigate tell me her chassis is NOT 118" long .Sorry Ken I'm trying